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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:18 AM
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V for Vendetta...
How long before the wingnuts start to denounce and defame this film?

Any takers?


Me, I'm off to see it ASAP...
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:19 AM
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1. I read this comic book in college.
I hope the movie can do it justice because the comic book was really good.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:22 AM
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2. Deja Vu
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:22 AM
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3. Mixed reviews.


Positive Buzz
http://jameswolcott.com/archives/2006/02/index.php

Negative review
http://www.newyorker.com/critics/cinema/

Roger Ebert's review will be positive and out tomorrow.


I will see it, but I do have doubts.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:24 AM
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5. rottentomatoes.com at 75% positive reviews
pretty damn good if you ask me.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:48 AM
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15. Even The New York Post gave it a good review.
And they are not usually overly complimentary.

http://www.nypost.com/movies/65373.htm
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:23 PM
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20. USA Today gave it 3.5 stars out of 4 today
Imagine that.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:23 AM
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4. I cant wait for the misinformation from them
the comic book was written in the mid-80's, intended to criticize Thatcher's rule in Britain. A lot of it is still relevant today, but I just KNOW the freepers are going to say "its meant to slam Bush" and "its unpatriotic"

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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:24 AM
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6. It Is Time ! ! !
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:25 AM
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7. Oh, it already started.
David Denby - New Yorker

Also, Drudge has been linking to any review that is positive toward "V For Vendetta." He linked to the Hollywood Reporter review, and titled the link, "TRADE: 'V FOR VENDETTA' a revolutionary call to arms... "

Here's another anti-Vendetta review at conservative film review site Libertas:

http://www.libertyfilmfestival.com/libertas/index.php?p=1241

It's going to be a hoot, watching them get their bees in a bonnet over this film. :-)
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:27 AM
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8. Some are calling it an "anti-Fascist" movie
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 11:27 AM by joefree1
That's enough to irk the neo-cons.

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:25 PM
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21. We should ALL call it an "anti-fascist movie"
What are they gonna do, complain? That would make them admit that b*shco is a fascist outfit.
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:38 PM
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24. Sounds good
Viva la revolution!


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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 09:21 AM
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28. Exactly
Not only does Bush make no appearance in this movie whatsoever, but the film is set in the future and the story it's based on was written more than 20 years ago. If the Bushbots think this movie paints an unflattering portrait of Chimpy and his methods, that says a lot more about the Chimp than it does about the movie.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:27 AM
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9. now. already started I think. calling it pro terrorism.
i guess it is pro the 'terrorists' and subversives and anti government.

saw it the other day. its good. had the potential to be great. a lot of the actors performances are excellent,
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:11 PM
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18. That's what Newsweek said (Jeff Gilles) -- said the dialogue was something
only a suicide bomber could love.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:28 AM
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10. SIngle showing tonight in many theaters
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PaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:33 AM
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11. Already been done
Yesterday I caught ten minutes of right wing blowhard Michael Medved's radio program. He was ranting against this film and it's star, Natalie Portman (Medved thinks that Portman, being that she's from Israel and all, oughta know better). Medved trotted out all the old lines ("Your either with the United States or your with the Islamo-Fascists") and is characterizing this film as an anti-Bush, pro-terrorist piece. He was incredulous and hardly able to remain calm. The movie is now a high priority for me.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:35 AM
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12. Didn't he used to be a rational movie critic?
Used to be on PBS, I think...
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PaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:42 AM
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13. well sort of.......
not sure he's ever been all that rational, but he has written a book or two about Hollywood/The movie industry and he does critique movies on his radio program. I'm not familiar with a PBS show, but I suspect he probably had one.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:27 PM
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He was on 'Sneak Previews' after Siskel & Ebert left PBS...
to have their own syndicated show. I can't remember who Medved's co-host was, but I remember they were both a couple of a$$hats. They seemed to like just about every dumb movie there was (and this was in the '80s, so there was a constant stream), and Medved would freak out if a movie had anything the slightest bit controversial in it.

Medved's never changed. Once an a$$hat, always an a$$hat.
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:44 AM
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14. sound famililar?
A is for Avian Flu. Whenever England's populace begins to stir from the sheepish slumber and question authority, the government alerts the British Television Network to lead the nightly news with fictional, fear-inducing stories. The avian flu is a perennial favorite.

Q is for Quarantine. Action taken by Norsefire's secret police whenever a particular neighborhood or street resists complete obedience. Those placed in quarantine are rarely heard from again.

http://metromix.chicagotribune.com/movies/mmx-060316001...



If anything, the film is more notable for what it hasn't changed. Twenty-five years ago, Moore and artist Lloyd were responding to the Thatcher government and the populace that continued to elect it. Here, producer/screenwriters Andy and Larry Wachowski and director John McTeigue — who served as their first assistant director on the Matrix trilogy — are clearly thinking about the Bush administration, 9/11 and the PATRIOT Act. At one point, we glimpse a poster for “The Coalition of the Willing” with a swastika on it. The vocabulary, the techniques, the spin — all suggest the Bush/Cheney regime taken to its logical extreme. When the story brings up the possibility that the Sutlerites created the plague as a pretense for establishing ironfisted control, is it possible to avoid thinking of the darkest notions some people entertained after 9/11?

http://www.pasadenaweekly.com/article.php?id=3192&Issue...



“V For Vendetta” is audacious filmmaking, wry political commentary, and provocative pulp fiction rolled into one. It is both entertaining and fueled by potent and timely ideas. Instead of hiding their ideas behind the cloak of sci-fi, the filmmakers take great pains to connect the events in their film to our everyday reality. What makes it especially provocative is that the film’s hero is such an appealing yet sinister character with noble intentions who lectures the citizens about the perils of surrendering their liberties to a government that promised to protect them from terrorism but has instead systematically murdered and lied to a nation. “V For Vendetta” brings to mind a number of compelling films that have explored issues of censorship, fascism, conformity, and oppression, while applauding those who had the courage to follow their convictions. “If,” “Fahrenheit 451,” “Clockwork Orange,” “1984,” and more recently, “Good Night, Good Luck,” “Syriana,” and “Last Days of Sophie Scholl” come immediately to mind. This film is bound to stir controversy for the thought-provoking questions it raises and leaves the audience to answer. Kudos to Warner Brothers for having the courage to release it.

http://www.moviesonline.ca/movie_review_detail.php?id=1...



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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:05 PM
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16. Freeper Tip # 159:
If any form of expression that criticizes oppressive, authoritarian, or otherwise facist governments or political movements is interpreted by your base as an attack on the current administration. . . perhaps that reflects poorly on your current adminstration, and not the various forms of expression.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:27 PM
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22. right on the button aden_nak..
"if it walks like a duck" and all that.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:55 PM
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27. To Quote President Rufus T. Firefly... (in _Duck Soup_)
If any form of pleasure is exhibited
Report to me and it will be prohibited.
I'll put my foot down, so shall it be.
This is the land of the free.


--Groucho Marx

And you thought _V For Vendetta_ was ahead of its time?

Maybe the following will sound familiar to some of you...

(From The Greatest Films site, http://filmsite.org/duck.html )

In the song and dance number, "Just Wait 'Til I Get Through With It,"
Firefly specifies the rules and program planned for his preposterous administration.
He threatens, as a repressive, dictatorial ruler, to abuse his power, to be rude,
obnoxious, irresponsible, insulting, cynical, and power-mad, ruining the country.
Between verses, he plays a "Yankee Doodle" fife and dances around among the guests:

These are the laws of my administration
No one is allowed to smoke
Or tell a dirty joke
And whistling is forbidden...
If chewing gum is chewed
The chewer is pursued.
And in the hoosegow hidden...
If any form of pleasure is exhibited
Report to me and it will be prohibited.
I'll put my foot down, so shall it be.
This is the land of the free.

The last man nearly ruined this place
He didn't know what to do with it
If you think this country's bad off now
Just wait 'til I get through with it
The country's taxes must be fixed
And I know what to do with it
If you think you're paying too much now
Just wait 'til I get through with it...

I will not stand for anything that's crooked or unfair
I'm strictly on the up and up
So everyone beware
If anyone's caught taking graft
And I don't get my share
We stand 'em up against the wall
And pop goes the weasel!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:10 PM
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17. Totally Freeper review in "Newsweek," too
I don't have a link, sorry. I was looking at someone's copy.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:54 PM
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25. Here's the link
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11769182/site/newsweek/

Most of the "bad" reviews I have seen for this movie seem to have some sort of political axe grinding in the background. That just makes me want to see this movie all the more.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:56 PM
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26. And, this review has some major agenda issues... and grinding
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:20 PM
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19. I can hear Fred Barnes hrrmphing about it already on Belt One Boys
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:29 PM
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23. The first movie I've looked forward to since RotK
Return of the King (Lord of the Rings, Part 3)

I actually had some free time the other day and looked in the newspaper for any movies I wanted to see, and there were honestly none. And, I'm a movie lover who prefers the theater despite having a nice home theater setup at home.

So, this is something I'm really looking forward to.
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