An example of why we don't like spying. BBC article.

[Gregorian]

Cop tapes cop. And they find that it's totally unacceptable. It strengthens the case we have against warrantless spying, I think. Even though it's just a taped phone call.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4801032.stm

Notice the very last sentence in the article. Just like the FISA law.



I just want to say one more thing about spying. THEY are spying on US. WE are not spying on THEM. It's about corporations, again, I feel. I mean, it's the American public they are spying on. This is at the foundation of the spying problem.

And something else about spying. Secret Sauce. Coca-cola. What's in a Mar's bar. These are all secrets. I don't know exactly where I can go with this. Maybe the corporations should be worried. Maybe spying can reveal more than just campaign problems, or political threats, or even ahem terrorists. Capitalism requires secrecy. I worked in an IBM research facility where you had to have a card around your neck, and could not get in without it. They even had a secure garbage truck. That garbage was precious.

Just a few thoughts.

[Demit]

1. You think corporations have something to fear from this government?

I doubt that. It's a Mutual Admiration Society they've got there.

[Gregorian]

2. Yes and no.

Secrecy is such an important part of corporate society, they should be worried. But my point is how they aren't the target. But they could be. I woke up one night with the thought in my head that, like just about everything they're doing, they're doing it TO us. It's totally one sided. If we were all free to spy on each other, it would actually be a fairer situation. But I really only use the corporate secrecy as a vehicle for the importance of it. It's a core facet of the corporate world.

I know. Nothing new. I just thought that article might be of some interest. But that too is nothing new. History repeats; We get shafted.