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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:24 PM
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Could this be what Bush is up to?
We wonder at the arrogance of this fascist cabal to now threaten Iran when they can't make good on their threats to Iraq. Is this because winning anything was never really a part of this adminstrations plans, only creating mayhem and madness and then capitalizing on the chaos?

It makes sense to me because the biggest threat to the Bush power nexus is any kind of world order that might have the power to hold them accountable for their deeds. The most likely place for this order to come from is the US Congress, but with a world in chaos the voices of Congress will be drowned out and the Executive Branch's power increased as it always is in time of war.

Bush is dependent on war for his dynasty's very survival.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:24 PM
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1. They have planned the chaos from day one, IMO.
Peace.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:24 PM
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2. Makes sense to me....
Chaos....breeds instability!!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:25 PM
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3. Chaos and fear are the best friends of the BFEE.
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 02:29 PM by BrklynLiberal
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are their comrades in arms.





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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:27 PM
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4. And allows him to remain our president for more than his two terms.
That's why we're seeing the push to put more power into the president's hands. He can justify staying on board because of the war on terra.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:06 PM
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13. Will the headline read...
"Bush Declares Self Presidnt for Life" ?
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:24 PM
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15. That's what keeps me up at night - tinfoil hat and all.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:27 PM
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5. they have stated & written this...long war, perpetual war, war, more
war....war and more wars.....Extremely SICK Criminals-ALL of them!
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:31 PM
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6. YES. I came to that realization awhile ago.
PNAC laid the whole thing out in a very flowery fashion using words like freedom and democracy....their one goal being domination of the ME oil supply through chaos. Having a stable, democratic government in Iraq was never part of the plan; otherwise we wouldn't need to be there and wouldn't have control; we must stay there for the plan to work. Iran must be taken out because their government is stable and hostile to us - destablizing that country is essential.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:21 PM
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21. Agreed, military equipment makes more money while it's on the battlefield.
Parts for broken equipment, replacements for blown up equipment, personnel, and let's not forget about all that oil that it takes to keep an army mobile.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:32 PM
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7. Exactly why I think the Golden Mosque bombing was a black-ops
job, not Sunni terrorists.

Notice that the charges that IEDs are of Iranian origin only came up since the wave of reprisal/counter reprisal began after that bombing. They had to have MORE chaos, to drag Iran into it.
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:20 PM
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18. The fascisti are taking big risks doing this. If they
get caught all hell will break loose politically IMHO
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:38 PM
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8. I expect some sort of 9/11 event, i.e., a black op, involving Iran
to occur any day now. If it goes down as I suspect, the fascists will have a pretext to use nukes in Iran which I think is their real goal.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:26 PM
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22. Won't be as big though, it will be localized.
An airliner will be shot down or blown up and blamed on the Iranians. Or perhaps U.S. ships fired upon in the Straits of Hormuz. Gulf of Tonkin II. Bushco won't care that the whole thing has the appearance of a sham. They will have the freepers on their side and they will manipulate the polls and the media. Once we have mobilized against Iran the excuse won't matter.
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:51 PM
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9. I have wondered this myself for a while now.
The more chaos, the more billions of dollars that go unnoticed. These people are war criminals.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:52 PM
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10. This is a good candidate for a unifying theory of the Bush Regime. n/t
n/t
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:53 PM
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11. The Neo Cons started off as Trotskyites, then swung the
other direction to ultra right politics. It seems that they have kept one aspect of Trotsky's teachings and that is the state of permanent revolution. You see it here when they cause a crisis that creates chaos, then they ride in with their "solution" to the problem they created. But instead of using the permanent revolution to shift power to the workers, it is being used by the robber barons and new aristocrats to gain complete control over the US and any nation they desire to control.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:11 PM
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14. What's the deal with that anyway?
Why the 180 deree shift from Trotsky? Did they decide that the right was easy to infiltrate because they're used to brainwashing already?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:48 PM
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16. Not sure why, but they made their jump during the Nixon
years. It could have been a split with the left on the war.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:11 PM
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20. Same thing happened in Germany in the 20s -- many of the top
Nazis were former communists.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:57 PM
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12. Your only error is thinking it is bush who is doing it
He is just a face, not the driving force. Otherwise, spot on.

They depend on war for survival and profit. The care not who dies.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:50 PM
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17. of course!!
It's been transparent to me from the beginning, geez what am I? a frigging psychic?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:38 PM
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19. It doesn't work for me
It seems as if you're saying that Bush is creating chaos and meyhem in order not to be held accountable for createing chaos and meyhem.

A rational person, not wanting to be held accountable for crimes, simply would not commit the crime in the first place.

Bush had other goals, like paying back those who have foot the bill for his political career by placing Iraq's natural wealth in their hands.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:31 PM
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23. Yep, 9/11 wasn't enough for them
so they had to throw in the *nthr*x to create more fear and chaos to grab their powers.

Then after Afghanistan and "shock and awe" in Iraq they had to kidnap and torture mainly innocent people because there weren't enough real terrorists for them (although of course they let the al-Qaeda leadership escape into Pakistan). Not to mention apparently not having a plan for post-war Iraq.
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