Right wing review of V FOR VENDETTA says why we should ALL see it

[yurbud]

From the review, it sounds like a very thinly disguised roman a clef about post-9/11 America, and how 9/11 happened. She actually made me want to see the movie more.

I hope this movie makes a hell of a lot of money and discomfits the Bushies more than the last Star Wars movie.

MAJOR SPOILER in this column reposted at Freerepublic.com

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1592360/posts

Then, there's the government. It's run by a religious Christian zealot. But not just any Christian zealot.

No. Chancellor Sutler is the supreme evil Christian. In order to get elected, he and the Bill O'Reilly-esque character (remember, before he became a cable host, he was a pharmaceutical CEO and made billions) arranged for hundreds of Brits to die from chemically poisoned water. The government said that terrorists did it, a story which became accepted fact and the conventional wisdom in media coverage. The fear that ensued garnered Sutler the chance to rule England, along with the Marshal law powers the English parliament gave him.

It's no coincidence that the symbol used for his government is some sort of Cross-come-Swastika combo. Not offended yet?

Under religious Christian zealot Sutler, gays are rounded up, imprisoned, tortured, and executed. Ditto for any dissidents, any left-wing activists, anyone who dares speak out against or flout the Chancellor's actions. Tell that to the ACLU, which seems to be running legal policy in our country, these days, and its partner in crime, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the wealthiest "public interest" group in the U.S., to the tune of hundreds of millions. We don't see any prospect of them being rounded up by the government anytime soon, unfortunately.

Under the religious Christian Chancellor, "unjust" Gitmo-style military tribunals and absurd NSA-style wiretapping is going on at every corner. Throughout the movie, we are shown vans of law enforcement personnel listening in to every home. As if that's what NSA wiretapping was about. It isn't, but "V" drills it into you the way the ACLU wants you to see it: every conversation in every kitchen, etc., secretly being listened in on and laughed at by guys in sweaty, rumpled shirts and ties.

[Bill McBlueState]

1. whoa, I gotta see this! n/t

[QuettaKid]

3. It Is Time.

.

[Marie26]

2. The ad on Yahoo for it is so cool. nt

[phantom power]

4. Let me see if I have this straight...

she's supposedly "offended" by the idea that this hypothetical government, which rounds up dissidents, is actually meant as a commentary on the Bush administration. But... in the very next paragraph, she says it's "unfortunate" that the ACLU and Poverty Law center haven't yet been rounded up by BushCo.

Did I get that right?

[yurbud]

7. no--it was in the same paragraph.

[AllegroRondo]

18. Bingo - that stuck out to me also.

She's saying she WANTS this dark future to happen.

[phantom power]

19. Yes, as long as nobody is so "offensive" as to TALK about it :-)

[yurbud]

26. you have to smile when you say "concentration camp" like Michelle Malkin

[NewWaveChick1981]

5. Husband and I are going to see it opening night here...

...I can't wait! It looks like it was very well done, and since anything Michael Medved hates is always good, it's got to be great.

[Marr]

6. It was written in the 80's. If freeps see similarities between the fascist

world described in this 80's comic and Bush America... well... then maybe they think about that for awhile.

[yurbud]

9. Maybe Karl Rove read it back then and a light bulb went off

[cascadiance]

47. Well Babylon 5 was Bush and Rove's FAVORITE TV show earlier...

Rove told Bruce Boxleitner that in so many words when he went to a White House Dinner some years back. I don't know if he reveled in the idea of emulating President Clark of that show, or if he just liked all of the SciFi blow-em-up space battles or what! Read here!

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated/browse_thread/thread/887aaec99134ade1

[joefree1]

8. Wow, gonna be a blockbuster I guess

Every time the freepers get in a tizzy the movie in question gets huge.

[yurbud]

10. I can only remember two movies that had Clintons even mildly worried:

WAG THE DOG and PRIMARY COLORS.

The first wasn't as much an intentional criticism of Clinton as an incredible coincidence though.

[Richardo]

11. "Marshal law"

Idiots.

[yurbud]

14. they probably think it's like "Marshal Matt Dillon" on Gunsmoke or

just some very anal guy named Marshal.

[shain from kane]

12. And as a Christian, it is ok to participate in poisoning the water

and blaming it on terrorists?
Thou shall not kill.
Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

They are hiding behind the trappings of religion to commit their crimes.
Oh, they are going to hell, that is for sure.

[yurbud]

16. Given the neoliberal drive to privatize water and Carlyle interest in

buying here in the US, that seems pretty dead on.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/3/16/85823/9073

Causes riots & disease in South Africa:

http://www.publicintegrity.org/water/report.aspx?aid=49

A US example:

http://www.publicintegrity.org/water/report.aspx?aid=57

I'm going to go drink a couple of glasses while I have a chance.

[tridim]

13. The only thing that bothers me about this film..

is that it's from the makers of 'The Matrix'. :duck: I enjoyed the first Matrix movie from an entertainment/CGI standpoint, but I thought the meta-SciFi storyline sucked. I'll give this film a chance because the story sounds compelling. It certainly can't hurt that the Freepers hate it. :)

[Telly Savalas]

49. What bothers me about this film...

is that I remember when I was a teen that there was another movie made about a lone renegade who fights a mindless, oppressive, fundamentalist authority. It was called Footloose.

[chaplainM]

15. We've won!

...when even Mr. Bush's base sees a fictitious evil dictator as a veiled reference to Mr. Bush.

This reminds me of a flap over a TV miniseries that aired during the G. H. Bush presidency. The series featured a vice-president who was an imbecile, albeit a handsome one. The Right was in an uproar, because they assumed it was a poke at Mr. Quayle.

[yurbud]

17. for Bush, first occurence was HITLER miniseries on CBS

It was extremely well done, but the Bushies were nervous before it even came out. Then one of the producers said in an interview it was timely because of the parallels with what's going on with Bush. He was fired.

[radio4progressives]

33. Wonder what the Right thought of "Being There" .w/Peter Sellers as

Chance Gardner...

hmm..

[yurbud]

37. not angry enough--too buddhisty

[LoKnLoD]

20. Heard a blurb on Fox

saying "Does V for Vendetta support terrorism?" you decide. They are pushing against this movie already and it isn't even out.

BTW - I don't watch Fox, my wife has a thing for Shepard Smith, she has to watch his show.

[shain from kane]

21. Your wife has a thing for gay newscasters?

Cowboy, take me away. Indeed.

[LoKnLoD]

22. LOL

I told her he was gay (not that there is anything wrong with that), guess she thinks he's "purty"



:P

[yurbud]

24. That guy is so gay, I expect him to end segment with "Back to you...

Harvey Feirstein."

[gatorboy]

23. Do these goofballs think this movie was made in the last few months?

It's been in production for years, not to mention Alan Moore's original work was created in the 80's to criticise "Milk Snatcher Thatcher"

[yurbud]

25. hey, it's not hard to make UNCLE TOM'S CABIN about the Bushies...

Immoral business practices defended with indignant religious posturing?

How did Stowe know these guys would be doing this 150 years later?

[nonconformist]

27. Damn, I am all over this movie! nt

[izzybeans]

28. Sounds like the Brain telling Pinky his plot to take over the world.

Sprinkled into this assinine review are the words of an enemy of liberty. They hate freedom. Liberty. They hate freedom...<say those last words with your best Will Ferrell doing GW voice>

[Gold Metal Flake]

29. What does this mean??

"the Southern Poverty Law Center, the wealthiest "public interest" group in the U.S., to the tune of hundreds of millions. "

:shrug:

[yurbud]

31. like Michael Crichton talking about global warming advocacy groups

being in it for the money--as if they couldn't make a hell of a lot more working for the oil companies pretending it didn't exist.

[MellowOne]

30. I have a feeling we will see more films along those line n/t

[yurbud]

32. let's hope they don't all have the same immediate application

[obreaslan]

34. Hollywood is sooooo out of touch! Don't they know...

We are all dying for "From Justin to Kelly II" ????

More movies like that, that's what I want. Now, I'm off to watch American Idol on TiVo....



:sarcasm: real strong :sarcasm:.....

[FatDave]

35. Anybody here familiar with the comics?

I'm a huge geek, but never been a comic book geek.

Anyway, can anybody here comment on the movie's adherence to the source material? Was the Christian fascism, MIHOP and spying in the original books? Or has the story been updated to better fit the Bush admin? I have no issue with it if it was updated, but I'm just curious to what degree life is imitating art here.

[Autobot77]

48. Its pretty faithful

Though in the comic, there was nuclear war and was set in 1997 as opposed to biological warfare and MIHOP. Remember this comic was written in the eighties when the cold war was going on, and partly to protest Thatchers administration. The parallels to Bush were added by the filmmakers, though the comic had Xtian fascists also.
There is one other big difference but I son't want to give too much away.

[yurbud]

36. PHOTO: Bush appears in V for Vendetta

[yurbud]

44. starts today. see it now and often

[Initech]

38. Oh boo hoo. Another "Hollywood doesnt care about us" rant...

Go home and cry on your mother's shoulder. It's freedom of speech, what little there is of that left.

[yurbud]

39. they can go rent STARSHIP TROOPERS for the fiftieth time and jack off

[Initech]

40. LOL!!

:rofl:

[Telly Savalas]

50. Starship Troopers was satire.

Ultimately it got marketed as that which it was satirizing, but nevertheless it was a critique of the fascist mentality. A pretty damn funny one too, if you know not to take it straight.

[immoderate]

41. In freeperville...

One of the posters has this as his tag line:

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

Thinks it's one of ours?

--IMM

[yurbud]

42. sounds like a bitter lefty posing as a righty

cuz he really admires that sticking to convictions.

[gorbal]

45. Sometimes I wonder if all freepers aren't posing

They certainly do a good job of making themselves look bad, that's for sure.

Anyway, I just saw the movie. I have mixed feelings about it, but it is the sort of film that had to be made. It's an amazing meme stew that might just mess up your head if you let it. There are some sections of the film that offended my sensibilities deeply, but that doesn't make it less of an affecting film. It made me think, and that is something.

[Hatalles]

43. It is in theaters tomorrow... and I'm buying two tickets!

[Renew Deal]

46. The movie was made months before the NSA thing broke.

How frightening is that you fucking traitor?

[EstimatedProphet]

51. Some bonefuck-stupid Shitheel Republic poster...

said that they want things to be MORE like how they are in the movie?

We don't see any prospect of them being rounded up by the government anytime soon, unfortunately.

God, what is wrong with these people? Other than in incomplete, flawed genetic complement, anyway...

[svan81]

53. Freepers stormed IMDB and claiming V is homosexual

WTF?

They are making threads calling V gay to attack the movie that way. So pathetic.

[BloodyWilliam]

52. I'm getting a nosebleed from the sheer stupidity.

To: Cyclopean Squid
The only people the Left lives in abject terror of are conservatives. I'm so pleased I'm thinking of getting a Guy Fawkes mask to scare the living daylights out of the moonbats!

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

12 posted on 03/08/2006 7:32:03 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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[EstimatedProphet]

57. This is the definition of stupid

Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.

"I'm wrong but I don't care! I'm right anyway!"

If that isn't vain, incompetent, and blatantly stupid - these people would still insist on teaching that the earth was flat if their masters told them to, and they're PROUD of it! they're actually PROUD that they are stupid!

[Frank Cannon]

59. Man, that guy not only missed the clue train...

it took all of his luggage with it.

[Redneck Socialist]

54. Is everyone over there an illiterate idiot?

(rhetorical question)

The comic the movie is based on was written in the eighties as a response to Thatcher in England. It had nothing to do with Bush or the US, though I guess if the fascist boot fits...

[upi402]

55. speaking of fascist, here's a quote from her:

"the Southern Poverty Law Center, the wealthiest "public interest" group in the U.S., to the tune of hundreds of millions. We don't see any prospect of them being rounded up by the government anytime soon, unfortunately."

? >>>UNFORTUNATELY<<< ?
Does this writer own a friggin' mirror?

[chat_noir]

56. "V" for Propaganda - Debbie Schlussel (RW bitch)

Excerpts from her reviews:

If most other Hollywood films subtly whisper of an agenda, "V" clocks you over the head with it with a still sizzling, iron frying pan of extreme leftism. It doesn't arrive in theaters until March 17, but already the mainstream (ie. liberal) movie critics and entertainment media are raving about this egregious attack on our war on terror.

Based on the graphic novel series of the same name, "V" comes complete with all the bogeymen the far left loves to hate: NSA spying and wiretaps; government renditions and torture complete with Abu Ghraib hood fashions; lecherous, elderly Christian clerics in collars raping young girls; Islam, gay rights, and free speech under attack; and even a Bill O'Reilly-esque evil cable talk show host/wicked pharmaceutical billionaire/heinous military officer combo rolled into one character.

Under religious Christian zealot Sutler, gays are rounded up, imprisoned, tortured, and executed. Ditto for any dissidents, any left-wing activists, anyone who dares speak out against or flout the Chancellor's actions. Tell that to the ACLU, which seems to be running legal policy in our country, these days, and its partner in crime, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the wealthiest "public interest" group in the U.S., to the tune of hundreds of millions. We don't see any prospect of them being rounded up by the government anytime soon, unfortunately.

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/03/v_for_propagand.html

Read the comments, too. Not every agrees with her review.

[C_U_L8R]

58. These creeps can stuff their review

because V is number one at the box office !!! wooohooo !

[Neil Lisst]

60. Freepers published a review which misspells "Martial" Law?!

Proving once again that bad spelling and word usage are hard-wired into the rightwingers' main frames.

Marshal Law? What is that?

[SPKrazy]

61. Marshal Law, The Guy Who Took Marshal Dillon's Place! n/t

[RagAss]

62. hhahaaa Fuck Her