Can somebody please tell me the Democrats 2006 Platform?

[CarlSheeler4U]

I must have been out when the memo arrived....

[harpo]

1. Impeach bush - prosecute war crimes!

[magneto]

13. fine...

But who will lead the country?:shrug:

[Contrary1]

21. Personally, I think nobody at all would be better than what we have now.

How about you?

[magneto]

30. history

History has proven that a country without a leader is nothing but a sitting duck. We need to remember, apart from any wish here that P. Bush would drop dead, other countries might get a different message than the one we intend to send.

For an opportunistic enemy, a leaderless United States--a country it's own citizens badmouth relentlessly--might be exactly what they've been waiting for.

Every American needs to remember that, it's not what we INTEND, or SAY, that defines reality--it's what they THINK we've meant and said that will determine their actions.

[senseandsensibility]

41. Our laws and constitution provide for new leaders

when a President is impeached. So what are you talking about? I'm sure you've heard of watergate? Do you really think that our country was leaderless after Nixon resigned? Again, what are you talking about?

[ulysses]

2. "we're the alternative

and you don't need to know any more than that for now."

[madfloridian]

3. It is at the DNC website under agenda, at the top.

There is an audio, then there is complete statements on what we are about.

The final will come out nearer November.

www.democrats.org

[harpo]

7. you might check your state democratic site as well

in case you don't like my impeach bush/ prosecute war crimes campaign idea

[madfloridian]

10. There has to be more of an agenda than impeach Bush. Sorry.

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[harpo]

19. there is...it was my one liner ;)

[Warpy]

12. "We believe all Americans should have access to affordable

health care" How nice, but how do they intend to accomplish that? We know the DLC/Hillarycare plan won't work because it leaves for-profit insurance companies in the catbird seat, motivated to deny care to increase profit.

Everybody loves Mom and apple pie and baseball, at least in theory. However, this isn't what people need to hear.

Some of the critiques on the page of the Idiot's plans are good. They're still not offering us anything to replace any of it.

Generalities and "we're not as bad as they are" seem to be masking a policy that's purely business as usual. Nobody's going to vote fot that.

[madfloridian]

14. Then don't vote for them.

Don't support them and don't vote for them.

This is America, and you don't have to be a Democrat.

I posted the link, knowing it would not be enough. Nothing is ever enough for the progressives here.

I was one for a while, but it scares me to have people who don't accept any of our Democrats' efforts...so I am back to moderate.

[Warpy]

15. Do you mean having a PLAN posted on the site would be too much

to ask for?

That's why people are going to stay home on election day. Yes, they're pissed off at Stupid, but they don't see a real alternative out there.

Part of this is a PR problem, but part of it is also deadly accurate. Generalities on the official website only add to this perception, since generalities mean "gee, we don't want to stick our necks out on anything, people might not like us."

Who the hell wants to vote for THAT?

[ClassWarrior]

16. The OP asked for the platform, not a series of position papers.

Believe me, Dems are never short on hundred-page plans. At least for once the marketing of those plans is what's out front.

NGU.

[madfloridian]

20. There IS a plan at the website.

If you are not aware, the Third Way and the DLC are trying to set their agenda apart from the DNC. It is called the American Dream Initiative. I think the new database might be for that as well..the one being formed by Harold Ickes which Dean says the DNC can't use.

Sorry it is not enough yet for you.

What is your agenda? Who have you got on board with you, and do you have someone to present it and get elected on it?

[Elidor]

4. It's entitled "Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory"

Sorry. I'm a tad bummed about the national party right now. If they don't wake up soon, I'm going to fade away. And I have no reason to suppose they're going to wake up at all.

[ClassWarrior]

5. Security, Opportunity, Responsibility.

You didn't even bother to look it up, Carl??...

NGU.

[liberal N proud]

6. All sawdust!

That is just my little bit of negativity for the night. Sorry.

[PhilipShore]

8. What about Jack Abramoff?

[WI_DEM]

9. That's a good point

I'm surprised that the Democrats haven't come up with something to rival the GOP's "Contract (ON) America" from 1994--but then again they announced their contract only a couple of months prior to the election. We should do the same. Reform, ethics, healthcare, education, and a timetable for getting out of Iraq should be part of any goals.

[madokie]

11. I'm a thinking whatever it is the majority of american people want

honesty, integraty, diplomacy, I might be a little off subject to you but what I'm saying is you don't need a directive, just do as we want, if you don't know that is then what are you doing, thats what I think. Do that and the rest will take care of itself. I'm not asking for you to tell me what you are gonna do days, weeks or months ahead, just do out bidding. simple
I like your ideas so far and wish you luck but not sure you need luck,
^5's

[Just Me]

17. Simply, protecting the interests of "the people". THAT'S SECURITY.

The Republicans, they protect the interests of passionate profiteers, greed-ridden, money-obsessed, self-absorbed, corporacrats who would sell their own children,...AND the American people AND their own nation.

[LittleClarkie]

18. From their website

http://www.democrats.org/agenda.html

[president4aday]

22. "...the real strategy for victory in Iraq." Gotta go puke now.

Howard Dean - "Democrats are leading the call for President Bush to make the increasing role of the Iraqis in their own security ...."

In other words, "Vietnamization".


Get the locals to do the Amerika's dirty work.

[LittleClarkie]

26. What would you prefer, a strategy for miserable failure in Iraq?

God knows we already have that.

[president4aday]

31. If Bush fails in Iraq. Gooooooooooooood !

[LittleClarkie]

35. You wouldn't say that if you lived in Iraq

I need the son of a bitch to do something right for their sake. It serves our purpose that he is not. But we're talking about the Democratic plan. The Democratic plan would have been not to fuck up the situation beyond all recognition in the first place.

[president4aday]

39. So ....you want a Bush victory in Iraq.

"You wouldn't say that if you lived in Iraq" Uh... How do you know what I would say if I lived in Iraq? or for that matter, what you would say?

"I need the son of a bitch to do something right for their sake." Why do you "need" this? and why do you think after bush has had 3 years, he going to "do something right"?

"It serves our purpose that he is not." According to you, what's "our purpose"? Oh, and who is "our"?

But we're talking about the Democratic plan. "The Democratic plan" today, victory, to be precise, military victory is the same as the GOP plan ! Tell where you see a moral difference between a Republican aggression, and a Democratic one?

"The Democratic plan would have been not to fuck up the situation beyond all recognition in the first place." "Would have been"?
Most of the Dems in Congress voted for the war!

Think, before you believe. Li'lClarkie

[DrGonzoLives]

50. So, what's the solution?

Just leave and tell them to go to hell? News flash, kiddo, we're already there. Arguments about the morality of doing so are pretty much moot at this point. We broke it, and we can either try to leave it in better condition, or choose your option and leave it worse.

[LittleClarkie]

24. And on the state level

at least my state, that is:

http://www.wisdems.org/ht/d/Issues/pid/410444

[bklyncowgirl]

34. Together America can do Better

Apparently this was all they could agree on--and only in the most broad based terms. Notice, no mention of Iraq.

[EC]

23. You're running, what's on your billboards? n/t

[LittleClarkie]

25. Vote Democratic. We don't suck.

:D

[soldier101]

27. Impeach Bush!!!!!!!!

that seems to be the main theme here. But how will we do better?

Impeach over WMDs, what will be do better to ensure the security of the USA?

I want to vote for something, I want my ideas out there. Just voting against something does not mean my agenda is helped.

I want to see the party state things like "Raise the minimum Wage". Only see it in hopeful posts here.

[specimenfred1984]

28. Same as it's always Been

Anti this fake war, pro-universal healthcare, pro-equal rights, pro-worker, pro-science, pro-justice, pro-union, pro-choice, pro-economy, balanced budget, fair taxes.

GOPig platform: torture, killing, spying, lying & corruption.

Everyone knows it who cares to know. If you want a snappy slogan, go sell Toyotas.

[CarlSheeler4U]

32. As the threads to this post show what we all want is somewhat

unclear and inconsistent..............

So I'm going to speak about what my family wants and tell me if that is much different from your own.

I want to be proud to call myself American again and hold to a higher standard we believe Our Constitution was drafted to adhere. I would be prouder if we were the facilitators of peace and prosperity here and abroad. This means money invested in stability and not Wars based on lies.

I want to know that my wife and five kids will have access to health care whether they are working at a soup kitchen or pursuing a PhD in microbiology.

I want to know that economic security means that when I work hard I will be able to retire and still have a reasonable level of quality of life - enough for housing, utilities, food and health care and opportunity for community involvement.

It also means that I expect my kids have decent educational opportunities K - College and access to the funds needed to pay for it.

I want to know my family is safe in my community from unexpected disasters or crimes against humanity.

I expect my elected officials to be more honest and to talk straight to me. If they can't do that I expect the shared responsibility of the public regardless of party is to fire the person whether she or he is the president or a school committee member.

I expect the public to support measures that give all willing and able candidates interested in public service a level playing field to run. This means more civic involvement of the public and responsibility of the media to make messages freely and equally accessible.

I expect small businesses to be supported to become larger businesses that can employ more people. I expect large US businesses to support their government as well as their shareholders. I expect them and millionaires to pay their fair share of the cost of good government.

I expect the able poor to be provided adequate support to improve their lot in life and I expect the middle class to have the ability to have a steady growth at or above the rate of inflation.

I am tired of discrimination and the endless bickering and blaming. Straight - gay, immigrant - citizen, choice or not, religious or not. Frankly, I think these are only issues because often we make them issues that expend enormous amounts of energy. There is nothing keeping us to maintain our own values within the laws of our Constitution.

I expect the genius and good of human beings to prevail in the sciences and I think the US should be on the cutting edge of alternative energy development and stem cell research.

THere is nothing in here that is contrary to what most Americans want.

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

[madokie]

33. Pretty much covers it all, Carl

I appreciate your willingness to ask what we think and not let us dictate what you do. By asking and listening you are able to formulate an opinion that is right for all, think back to Bill Clinton and you can see why he was so popular with the average joe. BTW if you stick to your platform you will be a very popular Senator.

[sandnsea]

38. Like this?

obey the law protect civil rights
tell the truth
fire the incompetents
chase the moneychangers from the temple of democracy
bring our troops home
find obl, protect the ports
stop blaming the american people when it's this admin addicted to oil
make access to healthcare affordable
reduce the deficit
respect work over wealth, fight for American jobs

Maybe if people like you repeated the message instead of lying about its supposed non-existence, the voting public would hear it. Then again, if the voting public heard that Democrats really do have a message, people like you wouldn't have anything to run on. Hmmmm.

[LiberalAndProud]

29. $3 TRILLION (how many zeros are in a trillion?)

We're going to pick up the plank that Bush and his majority party discarded.

BUSH IS BANKRUPTING MY COUNTRY!!!

[julialnyc]

36. Vote for your friends and neighbors, not for corporate, corrupt greed

Abramoff, Enron, Halliburton, big Pharma-- if you vote republican that's who you are voting for

[mdmc]

37. dude, your running. You create the platform

[CarlSheeler4U]

40. Excellent Excellent Excellent

There will always be a million different perceptions of the same scene. So what can we agree on is the TOP principles?

Our middle class deserves prosperity, security and equality through common sense, strong values and fairness.

Our veterans, seniors, youth & disadvantaged win when hard work and shared leadership is rewarded.

While these seem broad - they're actually overarching and bring us back to the principles our forefathers envisioned in Our Constitution.

We have plenty of smart, industrious and patriotic people to accomplish what every day citizens know we want and need and if we remain united on these principles we can achieve them.

[mdmc]

42. health care for all, education for all

now, lets make it happen

[opihimoimoi]

46. I strongley suspect this dude is a PUB SPY..... supposedly a PHD

but canhardly spell like one...

There is another thread in which he requests help to review his drop off Brochure...Go read it...he answers like a 16 year old..spells like one...and ignores specific questions re his battle plan...

I think ny nose is correct... this dude is a SPY come here on the pretext of asking for help....

Think about it...he is on DU for 6 weeks, a former Pub, has no plan except impeach Bush...

Very suspicious I say....

Opi, here since 01

[Radio_Guy]

43. Here are a few planks

End senseless deaths, get our troops home now.

End the death penalty.

Tough on crime (starting with the arrest, trial and conviction of GWB)

End government ban on drugs and smoking.

Reinstate the fairness doctrine. Alternate progressive show hosts and neocon hosts on the same station during the same time. For example: Rush on MWF one week, Tue & Thur the next week during his slot. Randi Rhodes on the same stations same time Tue & Thur the first week and MWF the second week. With the right stations and time slots, you will be surprised how good progressive radio ratings will be.

[bluestateguy]

44. Party platforms are only produced in presidential election years

And no, the Contract on America was not a platform. Most voters in 1994 had not even heard of it.

[lanah]

45. You mean the platform of WE THE PEOPLE?

How about...
Impeach Bush and Cheney
Repeal the patriot act
Universal health care
end the war in IraQ

replace all 'representatives' that serve their own careers and greed

Return to representatives as public servants

http://www.NotOneIncumbent.com/

[rhombus]

47. Its going to be rolled out in bits

Our "Contract of America" will officially be rolled out in August.

[opihimoimoi]

48. As a Democrat, Carl, you should know better than ask for our Platform

This tells me you haven't done any research in our Philosophy, etc.....

Are you a DINO?

Where are your specific ideas and concepts...other than the generic?

So far I see none and when asked...you refuse to answer....Where is the courage, the passion? so far...zilch, nada, puka, none, zero, nai, etc....

You give us NOTHING but want our help??? WTFIT?

[opihimoimoi]

49. What, the ETs got you, ? Where is the Carl? Is he a Cowardly Candidate?

More like NOT FOR REAL, A FAKE, A SPY, OR WORSE...A PUB....

[walldude]

51. We don't need a platform. We need sound bites.

Haven't we learned that an actual intellectual platform doesn't get through to the average American? They want everything summed up in 20 second sound bites that they can digest during the commercials on American Idol.

My Suggestion? WE CAN'T POSSIBLY DO ANY WORSE!

[opihimoimoi]

52. Thats all Carl has is sound bites...I don't see anything, not one iota of

SUBSTANCE....Nada....

Carl looks like a DINO...Democrat in NAME ONLY...another Zell perhaps...