WTF is wrong with my state?(Missouri)

[Solon]

I just heard on Channel 5 that the Missouri house is considering a bill to ban evolution from science classrooms, I don't have a link, if someone else can find one, I'll be grateful. The blurb mentioned that the bill doesn't mention evolution by name, but that classrooms will be required to "critically examine" science in general. Combine this with Missouri's blatant attempt at theocracy, in addtion to the birth control funding being cut. WTF is wrong with this fucking state?

[liberal N proud]

1. Too many of us liberals left the state?

I don't know but when I left in 2000 in wasn't like this, at least my perception was different.

[nickinSTL]

5. I think it's gotten a lot worse the last few years

the election of Blunt as Gov. has pretty much given the rw nuts in the legislature carte blanche to propose whatever insanity they want to.

Of course, the effect of that insanity is hitting a lot of their core voters (medicare cuts, mental health funding cuts, cutting pretty much every social program they can) - and that may be their downfall.

[Solon]

14. I agree...

It seems like the state went from Moderate Conservative to Extremist Taliban in the past few years, its freakin scary.

[nickinSTL]

2. the idiots in the legislature

are what's wrong.

And the ignorant "God"/guns/gays voters who put them there.

[Dora]

3. Well, my husband would say....

...that most people from Missouri are parochial jackasses who don't know shit from shinola.

Disclaimer: He's from Iowa.

(I do believe this is the closest I've ever come to state bashing!)

[nickinSTL]

7. heh.

I live in St. Louis (which is almost Illinois) - and I and almost all of my friends are from out-of-state originally.

[Itchinjim]

11. Your husband is a very wise man indeed.

Disclaimer: I'm from Iowa.

[Joe Fields]

27. At least you have Tom Harkin

[norml]

4. It's next to Nebraska.

Your state swings more than mine.

Maybe I should move there before 2008?

[MadMaddie]

6. Religion is mixed with Politics!!

and the results...the current state of "Missouri"!!!

All the laws that they are passing are to the detriment of the state......
5 years from now we will hear those same politicians crying because the education standards aren't competitive with other states, the birth rate is out of control, why are women leaving their unwanted babies in the garbage, why are women dying from back alley abortions, why do they have such a high poverty rate etc...

(They will say they didn't see these problems coming from the very laws that they forced on the population)

Sigh....

[MODemocrat]

8. You can tell Missouri has way too many Republicans in office

It was so different under Harry Truman; he must be turning in his grave. They're the same ones who want to adopt Christianity as the "Official" religion for Missouri. I just hope we can vote some of those backward-thinking males out of their plush jobs. We need new leaders who are For The People, not the ones who just keep sticking money in their own pockets at our expense.

:spank:

[UTUSN]

9. LIMBOsevic is from there. n/t

[Solon]

17. Hey! He's from the Bootheel...

That's Dixie territory down there, more Arkansas than Missouri, I know, had friends down there.

[skylarmae]

10. just try living in Utah - still the most repuke state in the Nation..

so, if it is any consolation, it could be worse...

[Roland99]

12. Banning providing birth control to low-income women, too.

And preventing clinics from referring women to other places for birth control options.


Abstinence or pregnancy.....or death.

[pscot]

13. Democracy in action

Ya get what ya deserve

[nickinSTL]

20. problem with that is...

those of us who didn't vote for these @$$holes get what THEIR voters deserve, too.

[Solon]

26. True, I'm still pissed that my state rep lost his seat last election...

He wasn't a liberal dem, but at least he wasn't a fucking right wingnut either. He's running to regain his seat, and I'm hoping he wins, hell, even Akins has a challenger this year, though I fear that because Akins district is like 60% repuke that he isn't getting the funding required, but he's pretty much a liberal.

Here's his site:
http://www.richlesh.org/

And I'm encouraged that Akins is possibly vulnerable, has another Repub, Sherman Parker who is now in the race, hopefully this leaves us with an opportunity to squeak in here.

[MadHound]

15. It's the periodic raid by conservatives and fundies

Happens every now and again, the conservatives get in power, along with their RW fundy hangers on, and just go on a raid and pillage mission. This is the latest in a series, and it won't be lasting much longer. A good number of 'Pug legislators are up for election this fall, and thanks to the Boy Blunder in the governors mansion, anything Republican is poison now in this state.

I seriously doubt that this evolution bill will get any traction this session, too close to election time. And if it pokes its head up next session it will get shot down quickly.

It isn't the people of Missouri who are pushing this nonsense now, it is the 'Pug legislators. They'll be gone in a few short months and sanity will return to the state.

[brooklynite]

16. I was at a reception this week with Claire McCaskill...

...and asked her about the recent bill in the State Legislature to make Christianity the "official" state religion. She said that it wasn't an aberration by one kooky legislator; outside of St. Louis and KC, pretty much everyone feels the same way.

[nickinSTL]

23. ouch. Hope she doesn't agree with them.

Just makes me hope all the more that after I graduate I'll get a job somewhere with a saner government.

[Solon]

32. I empathize with that...

Though I feel, somewhat, a great attachment to this state, my family helped found Creve Coeur for crying out loud! We have been here since before the Civil War, I feel it is my obligation to stay and fight, though I'm sorely tempted to move to Vermont. :)

[jsamuel]

18. Bush approval rating in MO right now SUSA (36%)

[Solon]

22. Maybe the Repukes...

Probably sensing a potential loss of control of the state this year is trying to do as much damage as possible in whatever remaining time they have? I really hate it when these wackos get even crazier because of this shit.

[catmandu57]

31. It's a scorched earth policy

They know their time is limited and they're trying to do as much damage as possible.

[jsamuel]

33. that's what I think

[DemInDistress]

19. here is a bunch of stories about that seems real to me..

Hope this crap doesn't spread.. its like a disease.



MIND ExchangeMissouri to vote on constitutional ban on transhumanism. ... You may as well try to ban evolution. Oh, but some states ARE trying to ban evolution! ...
www.kurzweilai.net/mindx/show_thread.php?rootID=55943 - Similar pages


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Missouri to vote on ban on human genetic engineeringJefferson City, MO (March 2, 2006) – An initiative to amend the Missouri constitution to erect a preemptive ban on human engineering, defined as any act ...
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George : Missouri to vote on constitutional ban on transhumanismAlthough I do not agree with any ban on therapeutic cloning and have no problems ... May every mad scientist in the world view Missouri as a playground for ...
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Evolution: Church-State Separation... the latest phase in the longstanding evolution-teaching controversy and ... Aren't fundamentalist Protestants the force behind the attempts to ban ...
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Mo. May Vote on Stem Cell ResearchLOUIS -- As Jeff McCaffrey views the Missouri stem cell debate, ... James M. Talent is co-sponsoring a federal bill that would ban the procedure widely ...
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[nickinSTL]

24. I'd never heard of transhumanism before...

interesting.

But...how exactly does one ban it? :shrug:

You could ban particular aspects of it, but not the entire movement, I don't think.

[DemInDistress]

30. never heard of it but this admin. makes up new rules and new

slogans every day,..and lets not forget their base, sad sad commentary about those people.

[still_one]

21. they need Harry Truman to set them straight

[hadrons]

25. see how some MO. Repukes have been rewarded for their vote ....

GERSTER, Mo. - Gary Ruckel, like most rural Missourians, backed Matt Blunt for governor last fall and voted other Republicans into legislative seats.

Ruckel agreed with Blunt on issues such as gun control and gay marriage, but he was not considering a subject that hit much closer to home: medical care.

So when Blunt proposed cuts in Medicaid last month that could cost Ruckel and his wife, Vivian Ruckel, some services, the couple had second thoughts about backing Republicans.

"It kind of jumps back and kicks you in the teeth, is what it does, because I wasn't planning on this," said Ruckel, who lives about 50 miles north of Springfield. "If they cut back on Medicaid, it's going to crucify us, because we don't make that much."

Ruckel's story is familiar in rural Missouri. More than half of Medicaid recipients in Missouri live outside the Kansas City and the St. Louis areas.

Those rural areas voted heavily for Blunt, who carried 100 of 107 counties outside the state's two largest metropolitan areas.

....

Ruckel and his wife, both 64, said they were among those in need. Ruckel, a former police officer and prison guard, has emphysema, arthritis, a spinal defect and other ailments. His wife is in worse shape, suffering heart and lung ailments, and kidney disease. She tires quickly and cannot do much outside the home. Ruckel is on nine medications; his wife is on 21.

With a combined income of $1,357 a month, mostly from Social Security, they qualify for full payment of medical and pharmacy bills through Medicaid. Both are classified as workers with disabilities because Ruckel works on lawn mowers and his wife does sewing, making about $60 a month combined, he said.

....

http://www.tilrc.org/docs/0205mocuts.htm

just look at Gary and Vivian Ruckel to see what's wrong with MO.

[donsu]

28. your voting is rigged - the religiously insane are in charge

nt

[chaumont58]

29. May I suggest a lack of separation of church and state

It isn't hard to see the fundies' hands in this sort of thing.