Russ Feingold on Charlie Rose tonight, 11:30pmCT PBS. Wow.

[babylonsister]

Cool!

[Gabi Hayes]

1. THANK you! our next president, I hope

finally someone who practices the L word.

as in Leadership

[EST]

2. Yeah, watching now.

He is really something. I called and called his office, today, (busy, busy, busy) and finally wrote him a letter, saying if he should decide to run for pres, he can depend on my vote. If he and Clark should both run, it would tear me up. A surfeit of talent and qualifications.

[serryjw]

3. F*CK! I'm in Denver and

they preempted it for some bushit musical special.....You must write a long post on what he said.thanks

[EST]

21. Have you read his press interview.

This covered the same ground, in different order, in a calm, quiet setting. There si little more to say. He is now coming on the other pbs channel-dish 29 for me.
"Here's the problem with many dems, think tankd, etc. Lets just hang back-let the pugs destroy themselves.
The real value is the rule of law.
The dems should add that-
"is that why you voted against the pat act?
Yes -must stand up for peopl's rigtts & values.
Toughest decisioc-send folks to war&have to admit yopu made a mistake

That's how the pukes are clubbing ths dems-they voted for war and now have to stand up and admit mistake.

Regarding censure motion
"president's trying to lead --you ars inhibiting

F:that's how * intimidated the dems and tried to do hum--*will hang you out to dry if you don't vote to authorize war

Do you think you represent the democratic wing of dem party?
F:I'm an independent democrat. I vote the way I view it, not hew the party line do what's right that's what all dem leaders should do


Dems have to get away from fear that they'll look weak, calling for troops to get out of Iraq

more in a minit...

[EST]

28. Iraq is already in civil war

Fearing civil war is no reason to stay, our troops are just exacerbating problem

Q:what can we do to get Iran to desist bldg nuclear weapon

F:we have to work w/russia---wqe cannot allow this crazy bunch to get weapon, work with em on peaceful uses

We have strengthened Iran's hand (neocon fucked up so bad)

If all that stuff told about Iraq were true, we'd be justified in attack, but they weren't

Iran knows we have fatally weakened ourselves, our teoops...

F:oppose Idea of formalizing Hamas while takomg position Israel should be destroyed (it's in their charter)
No aid for hamas til they renounce

israel f'ed up occupying gaza.
sharon was courageous to withdraw

Q: hillary-battle between
F:it would be silly to run against her-she really knows the world.
he would only run if he really thought it was right and he could make difference. Can make a difference now, every day, as US senator.
I have a strong set of beliefs, right or wrong.
would only run for pres if that were the way to advance those beliefs.
Sad commentary to spend all that money on Iraq instaed of those who attacked us

[EST]

32. Aw man, sorry!

Was typing as fast as I can when anti virus kicked in and started scanning-slowed waaay down!
Anyhoo-he said hillary would make a great pres-that he would NOT run as a protest candidate, only if he's sure he could make a significant difference.

I hope this helps. They will probably be rerunning this over the w.e. Well worth the watching-twice!
Sez this admin lacks credibility with the people, not just other countries and pols.

[babylonsister]

7. We need to talk.

:D But not for your selections.

[EST]

33. OK-talk.

Or pm me if you wish.

[upi402]

4. next president!

gabi's onto something i think!

[Gabi Hayes]

8. I mean, how frickin OBvious can it get?

nobody else on the scene with any kind of visibility has taken the reality bull by the horns but Feingold

it's been clear here for years what's been going on, but the forces and powers that be do NOT allow reality based communication between our so called representatives in government or media

subjects that Feingold raises are mostly considered taboo

who was the ONLY ONLY ONLY person who voted against the first PATRIOT Act? how much nerve did THAT take in the climate of the times, huh?

as I said, how much more obvious can it get?

real leaders do the right thing, no matter what the conventional 'wisdom' dictates

[upi402]

11. How about a world with

maybe Dean or Kucinich or...
with him in the WH and a Democratic Hous and Senate.

umkayyy, I'm going to my special place nowO8)

[Gabi Hayes]

12. sigh....they CONSTANTLY ridiculed Kucinich during the campaign

and he was the only one who told the real truth; look where it got him

what would it be like to have people like him in positions of power, instead of those pieces of human filth that have stolen what's left of our fragile democracy

[upi402]

17. enlightened

i'd say

[Gabi Hayes]

19. true, but you know what would happen if he got into a position where

he became an actual threat to power......same thing that'll happen to Feingold....same thing that happened to, well, nevermind

[babylonsister]

34. And...

enjoy! :hi:

[madokie]

5. Us dem's have so much to be proud of

Al as prez Russ as vp Wes at dod, it goes on and on, so many dems to pick from

[auagroach]

6. No Access...

Could someone do a fly on the wall for us?

[Gabi Hayes]

9. stop fascism now, before it's too late....if it isn't already

they might know a bit about invasions

http://www.irak.pl/full.html

[Gabi Hayes]

10. please....

[Swamp Rat]

14. Great pix!

:applause: :hi:

STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT!!!

SUPPORT FEINGOLD!!!

:patriot:

[Gabi Hayes]

15. high praise, from you, sir! it's an amazing site

don't tell me you speak Polish, too!

wish I could read it.

lots of stuff on oil company complicity in WWII, among god knows what else. interesting to use the pics as a guide to what they're talking about, yes?

is it time for mass printings of your 'GOP-burn in hell sticker' yet?

[Gabi Hayes]

16. know who these two are?

[Gabi Hayes]

18. hmmmmm.....

Zbigniew Brzeziński twórcą Al-Quaidy. Udziały Busha i Ben Ladena w Carlyle'u
Usilnie wmawiane opinii publicznej kłamstwo (a i casus belli zarazem!) o związkach Ben Ladena z Husseinem każe przypomnieć o istnieniu jedynego takiego "łącznika", amerykańskiego zresztą: obydwaj byli wspierani latami przez CIA i rząd USA, m.in.również za pośrednictwem obecnego "konsula" Iraku, Paula Bremera, bliskiego współpracownika H.Kissingera (Iraq-gate), notorycznego zbrodniarza wojennego z Kambodży, Timoru Wsch., Chile, Afryki, Iraku, itd., mającego do 1938r. kontakty z Hitler-
jugend, a po wojnie poprzez akcję Paperclip (ściągania zbrodniarzy nazistowskich do USA) - z SS.

[Swamp Rat]

22. Brzezinski and Bin-Laden?

:)

[Gabi Hayes]

24. that's what it says, I guess. wish I could read it

Zbigniew Brzeziński twórcą Al-Quaidy. Udziały Busha i Ben Ladena w Carlyle'u
Usilnie wmawiane opinii publicznej kłamstwo (a i casus belli zarazem!) o związkach Ben Ladena z Husseinem każe przypomnieć o istnieniu jedynego takiego "łącznika", amerykańskiego zresztą: obydwaj byli wspierani latami przez CIA i rząd USA, m.in.również za pośrednictwem obecnego "konsula" Iraku, Paula Bremera, bliskiego współpracownika H.Kissingera (Iraq-gate), notorycznego zbrodniarza wojennego z Kambodży, Timoru Wsch., Chile, Afryki, Iraku, itd., mającego do 1938r. kontakty z Hitler-
jugend, a po wojnie poprzez akcję Paperclip (ściągania zbrodniarzy nazistowskich do USA) - z SS.

[Swamp Rat]

29. There are a lot of other familiar names like Bush, Carlyle, Paul Bremer

Here, I ran it through an online translator at http://www.poltran.com/:

"Zbignev Brzezi?ski framer Al-Quaidy. Participation (quotas) Busha and lie carlyle persuade public opinion hardly ( Ben Ladena and at the same time casus belli! It tells to remind about relationships (associations) with (from) of such existence sole ) " adaptor (hyphen) " Ben Ladena Husseinem, anyway, american both were leaned by lats (summers; years) CIA and government (row) USA, through present " consul " iraq m.in.równie?, paul Bremera, close co-worker ( ) H.Kissingera Iraq-gate, from cambodia notorious war criminal, Timoru Wsch. Chile, africa, iraq, etc., have for 1938 -. Contacts with (from) hitler - jugend, but after war through share (action) for pulling off of criminal USA ( ) Paperclip nazistowskich with (from) PAGES - "

[Gabi Hayes]

31. thanks....the translators I've used didn't do Polish. thanks for the link

I got the names from the original, but couldn't make much sense, other than that there's some sort of obvious linkage

I knew ZB was a hardliner and proponent of the mujahadeen, but that's about it. he's pretty PNACy, too, I think, and quarrels only with the incompetence with which this invasion/occupation has been waged, right?

hard to keep all the players straight

[Swamp Rat]

20. No, but I suppose after a couple of beers I sound like I speak Polish

:D

Just wait 'till the fundies turn on Bushler... oh, and they WILL! ;) ... they will shout: "It's the Mark of the Beast!!!" :evilgrin:

[Gabi Hayes]

23. hope you're right, but not holding breath. how can they ever admit

to being so wrong about something so, uh, fundamental to their belief system?

accent on mental, btw

it would be akin to throwing away their main superstition. I don't think they could handle the shift in perception, could they?

the massive cognitive dissonance would blow their tiny little brains apart....massive STROKE!

[Swamp Rat]

26. When they are "encouraged" to get RFID chips inserted

the smarter ones will become extremely paranoid, for good reason, and dump Bushler like a hot, freedom-fried 'pototoe'... it's already happening. :)

I don't know about you, but I am quite entertained by the notion that Bushler will become the Anti-Christ in the minds of his former supporters.

[serryjw]

27. Did you do those fabulous PICS?

I love the bushit/hitler one....Do you sell them?

[Gabi Hayes]

30. how much are you willing to pay? ha

I wish I could do stuff like that

the very first link on that post is the Polish site at which I found everything.....still going through it.

[newyawker99]

39. Hi auagroach!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Gabi Hayes]

13. the man speaks up to the NYT

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x692455

[Gabi Hayes]

25. feingold envy thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=683816&mesg_id=683816

[babylonsister]

35. Darling Gabi, you don't know

how funny this envy thread was! It's a circular thang!

[Emit]

36. Great, except in my area it's being pre-empted by Celtic music n/t

[Gabi Hayes]

37. brunch punch

leader

[Coexist]

38. thanks!