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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:49 AM
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Talked w/a DOD guy today: "media is the enemy of the state" he said.
Edited on Sat Mar-18-06 12:09 PM by Mika
I was out doing my Sat AM exercise regime and this DOD guy has joined our cycling group the last few weekends. Did some chatting w/him today and discovered that he's a DOD analyst (Latin American counter terra). According to him ALL of the US media, except.. you guessed it.. FAUX news, is hard left liberal and working to bring down America. When asked he said that it was pretty much the opinion of most of the analysts he has worked with. When asked he said that he didn't watch much news or the cable outlets, so I questioned just how did he come to this opinion about the media. He didn't have any real answer, just that he knows that the media is the enemy of the state and that the so called liberal media is not engaged in the exercise of freedom or democracy.

His opinions --> Iraq is and was a terrorist state. Had to be taken down. Same goes for Iran. And Venezuela. Oh.. and the media too.

F-ing scary. :scared:

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:51 AM
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1. Our intelligence analyst don't want competition.
Makes it harder when people are looking over your shoulder.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:52 AM
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2. Did you tell your DOD buddy that he was a traitor?
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:56 AM
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6. And that his mind is not his own?
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:33 PM
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22. Did he sleep through Government or Civics or whatever it goes by now?
What happened to a free press is the watchdog of liberty, etc... There was a time when people had a clue what in the hell they were supposedly fighting for.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:54 AM
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3. So Chavez was right?
the bushistas really to want to invade Venezuela?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:55 AM
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4. Little Orphan Annie, would say, "Holy Jumping Catfish"
That is fucking scary. What does this guy do at the DoD? I hope he's just a janitor that trying to talk like a big out of town jasper.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:56 AM
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5. how do these people expect to analyze anything
if they base their analysis on the "ethers" or the memos they get? :shrug:


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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:57 AM
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7. Truth is the enemy of power, now and always. Einstein. nt
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:58 AM
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8. if the media is the enemy of the state,
Then the state is the problem, not the media.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:00 PM
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9. Wonder what his definition of the "exercise of freedom:" and the
"exercise of democracy" would be? I would have to ask - along with how he sees those things being expressed in our own country.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:06 PM
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11. I asked many of the questions posted here..
.. it seems that, to many at DoD, FAUX is doing it right.

I really didn't want to turn a bike ride into a deprograming session, but this guy needs a heavy dose of therapy.


He REALLY HATES Michael Moore and his commie movies. I asked.. he hasn't seen any of them. :eyes:

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:15 PM
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16. Guess they want to turn us all into Janice Joplin ala the song
"Freedom's just another word, for nothing left to lose..."
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:44 PM
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25. Actually, that's a Kris Kristofferson song.
Not to be nit picky.

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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:03 PM
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10. Let me guess ,,, 30s White Male goes to Fundie Church....
do I get any points :evilgrin:

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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:08 PM
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12. No points
Mid 40s. Not a fundie BUT he drives a Hummer.

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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:19 PM
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18. Confucius say man who drive Hummer....
have veeerrryyy small penis.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:11 PM
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13. What happens to media shareholder valuation once they've destroyed
the nation? I mean, why would a company destroy the nation that allows it to be a company and is the force behind all of Wall St? Is US media determined to drive itself into bankruptcy? Bet he couldn't have answered that one.

Maybe he could ask Rush the next time he gets through on the call for opinion line
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:15 PM
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17. I asked him that.
He seemed unaware that MSCNBC is a GE entity. He seemed to think that the news divisions of the large corporations are completely autonomous.

I really don't know how to approach someone with such little awareness (on a bike ride).

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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 04:00 PM
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27. Even without the ownership by GE - the US system supports private
property rights and the entire Wall St structure. What would happen to the value of media (and all other) stocks if the US were destroyed or went belly up? The Depression would appear like a mild bump in the road. So the idea that media wants to destroy the US is the same as thinking media is suicidal.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 07:02 PM
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30. He thinks the media is as whacked as his thinking is. n/t
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:13 PM
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14. Tell him that YOUR mother . . .
. . . taught you to think for yourself!

(And ride off into the sunset, cuz this guy is beyond hope.)
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:14 PM
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15. This is why I can't join "groups" like this...
And why I don't socialize that often anymore.

I would have waited until we got into traffic, or next to a steep drop off, and I would have KICKED his bike so he would spin out of control, and get run over or suffer injuries from a long fall.

I have ZERO tolerance for these idiots, and when I encounter them, I eye them like prey.

When I hear someone spout some BS like you described above, the first thing I do is stare like one would at a uncontrolled child, throwing a fit in a grocery store.

Then I threaten to kick their ass, not because of their "liberals ruin everything" beliefs, but for being "SO FUCKING STUPID".

My last "girl friend" left me because I asked her if she was adopted in front of her "BUSH IS LORD" brother.

Then I said to both of them that she "HAD" to be adopted, because there was no way that she could be related to such a stupid, Kool-Aide drinking, religiously insane, Bush loving hand-job.

She's gone.

Oh well, that what I get for being single in freaking KANSAS.





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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 07:12 PM
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31. LOL LOL LOL!
Edited on Sat Mar-18-06 07:17 PM by Hubert Flottz
I can relate!

The rear strangle takedown seems like the best way to get through sometimes.

Edit...The DoD taught me the rear strangle takedown BTW!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:23 PM
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19. Lots of guards available for Hallibutrton Homeland Concentration Camps
The Imperial Subjects of Amerika have been and are being psychoengineered as the Germans were, into Monsters and the Slaves who Wipe the Greasy Soot Off Their Windows Every Morning.

Those of us who resist in any way, shape or form...well, let's just say you will get a firsthand glimpse of this gentleman or they which are legion, in the execise yard. Step lively, now or they'll clout you.

Arbeit Macht Frei.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:26 PM
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20. That's one thing that pisses him off. Private contractors at DoD
They make two to three times what the gov analyists make.

I said, hey.. remember when GW said "its your money"? That's what you get when you vote repuke.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:41 PM
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24. Doesn't matter what he feels, just that he'll OBEY when the time comes
And when the time comes to herd Arabs and Liberals into Concentration...pardon me, the NewSpeak is Hoemland Detention Camps, he and thousands like him will gleefully do so.

Millions will stay home and perform the moral equivalent of wiping greasy soot off their windows every morning.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:28 PM
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21. Possible your new buddy is a freaking janitor at the DOD building
and exaggerating his position.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:35 PM
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23. Fascist fuck
.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:58 PM
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26. The media (i.e., formerly known as the press) SHOULD BE the enemy of
the state. Unfortunately, it has become a lapdog propagandist for the state.

This guy doesn't recognize Stalinism when he sees it. That's one piss-poor, yes-man, Bush toady American! Send him back to history class.
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 04:02 PM
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28. Wonder if he had FBI credentials in his back pocket. n/t
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 04:06 PM
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29. There's the problem - ideologues instead of the educated
Edited on Sat Mar-18-06 04:06 PM by Neil Lisst
It's hard to believe anyone who actually analyzes foreign countries from DOD could be so uninformed as to list Fox News as a reputable source of news.

The whole "liberal media" thing would be comical if not so tragic. The same people who run the government run the megacorps of media.
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