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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:38 PM
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Most Disgusting (And Revealing) Freeper Thread Ever.
And before anyone berates me for going there, I'll freely admit I'm a regular. It's part wanting to know what they're saying, part rubbernecking, and part a base craving for schadenfreude. I thought nothing I saw in Freeperville could shock me. I was wrong. These are some sick fuckers.

The thread flows from an article about bringing back public execution. The cognative dissonance is astounding. Here are some of the comments:

Too easy. Need to keep 'em alive for a while, slowly burning in oil one body part at a time, with live web feed worldwide.
Do the same with all the death row inmates as a daily matinee
and with traitors as a weekend special.
6 posted on 03/18/2006 3:05:28 AM PST by arbooz
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While I like the idea of torturing child molesters, I believe immediate public execution would be a better deterent. People become used to violence and would eventually be bored by torture.
7 posted on 03/18/2006 3:14:09 AM PST by GBoettner ("Peace" Through superior firepower.)
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OK, torture them "in private" before the execution, but for entertainment value pick a different way to execute them every time. Solicit public input, give out prizes for creativity.
The keys are swiftness and inevitability of the punishment.

Oh, and execute their family first, all living close relatives
above the age of majority.
11 posted on 03/18/2006 3:36:13 AM PST by arbooz
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Solicit public input, give out prizes for creativity.

Take the following steps.

1. Place perp in suit of armor

2. Place perp in wooden shack

3. Weld perp's member in a vice

4. Set wooden shack on fire

5. Hand perp a machete

6. Wait outside for perp to emerge holding the bloody spot where his member used to be and then shoot him between the eyes.

What do I win?
17 posted on 03/18/2006 4:39:08 AM PST by Dad2Angels
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I think execution should be in the same fashion they killed thier victims. Immediate family members should only be executed when found to be responsible for the murderers make up or if they participated in protecting the murderer.
20 posted on 03/18/2006 5:07:36 AM PST by GBoettner ("Peace" Through superior firepower.)
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I have long advocated a return to public punishment, & not just executions. Here's why.

1. Publicly held executions & punishments (flogging, stocks, etc.) will demonstrate to other would-be criminals that they will definitely receive punishment for their crimes, & it wont be 3 square meals & clean sheets. Watch enough executions & many people will think twice before murdering their neighbor or spouse.

2. The humiliation of public punishment will get the attention of all those young toughs & gang-bangers. As a perverted sense of respect is a major driving force in their illegal activities, having to spend a Saturday in the stocks, while the public gets to spit on you, throw garbage on you, & call you anything they want, is the perfect way to get these punks' attention.

3. The victims of crime will get to witness the punishment, first hand, giving them a sense that justice is being done, & bring some closure (I hate that word) to their ordeal.


Finally, if public punishment ever does return, whoever creates the Punishment Channel on cable will make Sam Walton & Bill Gates look like paupers.
22 posted on 03/18/2006 5:16:49 AM PST by Mister Da (Nuke 'em til they glow!)
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A simple public hanging, preceded by a whipping, is sufficient.
34 posted on 03/18/2006 8:29:30 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:40 PM
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1. Seriously, these retarded asswipes are just going for shock value. You
know that they can't mean it. They'd be watching a family member a day on tv.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:47 PM
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10. No...they are the precursors of Nazi Monsters
They are The Future and you had bett come to understand that before YOU are in the exercise yard at Hallibruton Homeland Detention Camp, and these men are your warders.

Step lively now, or they'll clout you.

Arbeit Macht Frei.

Ignore the repetition of history at your own peril.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:49 PM
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11. They really mean it
Make no mistake.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:05 PM
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25. Shock value? thinking such horrid cruelty says alot about them nt
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 03:16 PM
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39. Oh most definitely. It says that they are absolutely without whatever it
takes (some call it empathy) to make a person a truly decent and humane being. They are lacking in that respect. And they are like all big talkers. As long as they can sit somewhere safe and (so the think) anonymous, they'll shoot off their mouths. You notice that they're all here posting at that foul and filthy site, not in Iraq putting their asses where their 'convictions' lie.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:40 PM
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2. No wonder these people love the Saudis
They are not Americans as far as I'm concerned.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:57 PM
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18. No, denizens of Free Republic are not true Americans.
They would be the first people to sell their country out for a buck too, they are traitors for supporting the dictator Bush.
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:41 PM
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3. Um... that was really f*ed up...
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:42 PM
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4. God, that IS sick..
.. and I guess it explains how inured so many Americans have become to pain and violence.

I'm wondering if every sadistic freeper should be put to the same torture s/he advises.

Especially Bush and Cheney...

Sue
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:43 PM
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5. These creatures are effing sick...remindes me of the descriptions in.....
....the "Left Behind" series of fundie books written by a couple of rabid fundies. These effers are getting sicker by the day.:puke:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:50 PM
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13. And when they begin to get governmental approval, they will act
They cannot wait, and they are right, for it is coming in no more than 30-50 years, and probably much less.

Arbeit Macht Frei.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:56 PM
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17. No. They will not win.
We won't let them. We will fight them. We are the majority.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:58 PM
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19. I hope you're right.
But since when is being in the majority mean ANYTHING to Totalitarian Scum.

They welcome such a challenge.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:11 PM
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30. I totally agree that it IS COMING TO THAT but most people here........
.....think it's all a joke. I just hope I'm not around to see their surprise when it comes to a neighborhood near them.:cry:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 07:23 AM
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67. Instant Nazi
Just add Zyclon-B meat hooks and piano wire and shake well before using...better hide your gold teeth from the Junior GOP!
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:44 PM
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6. Wow! They really want to punish Bush like that?
Who would have guessed? :eyes:
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:44 PM
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7. To be truthful, these posts
come from individuals that have not yet fully evolved from their animalistic natures to human beings.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:01 AM
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72. I don't know about that. We are the only species that torture.
The human race. Scary group.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:44 PM
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8. Only if we can also have public executions of white collar corporate crook
Duke Cunningham, Ken Lay, Jeff Skilling, Bernie Ebbers, Jack Abramoff, etc. Might be worth it. But I'm sure the Freepers would only want poor people and minorities to be subject to such treatment.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:46 PM
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9. In a nutshell ...
"People become used to violence, and would eventually be bored by torture."

And we wonder why there is so little outcry from these people about Abu Ghraib. They 'eventually get bored' with the reality of torture.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:50 PM
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12. You're wrong.
They're not bored by torture. It's worse than that. They're turned on by torture. They approve of torture. They're enamoured with torture.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:13 PM
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31. That was my point ...
... the fact that they perceive that themselves, and others, will 'eventually become bored' with it.

It is not unlike serial killers who start with torturing small animals. They usually start thinking about human prey long before they act on it, because they realize they will become 'bored' at some point, and will want to move on to something even more heinous.

Only a very sick mind can foresee their own 'eventual boredom' with watching the suffering of others.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:51 PM
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14. Call the little Freepers what they really are:
Hitler Youth. Gawd, I dispise them! :mad:
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:06 PM
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26. I totally agree!! I hate those creatures nt
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:55 PM
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15. Do you think their love of punishment and justice would extend to
international war crimes?
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:56 PM
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16. Hard not to gawk at a fatal bus crash.
Y'knom they had crucifixions, cutting off hands, floggings, public rapings, stonings, beating to death, on and nauseatingly on, for a thousand years. And still never had a shortage of crooks, thieves, victims and other miscreants---ever!
What is wrong with this picture?
I guess some people have never read a book, a word of history or the babble. Duh werld are loded wid dumasses. Best advertisment for abortion and birth control I've ever seen.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:01 PM
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20. Donning armor
but as sick as they are... they have a point... the fastest way to END the dead penalty is actually to go back to PUBLIC executions in the public square... why do you folks think it moved behind the prison walls? Here is a hint, the People were turning AGAINST execution, especially after a couple very grizzly ones, where even a convicted man lost his head... bad weight ratio mostly

So to these fucks I say, bring it on, make them public and watch an Ameircan public that cannot stand death, the real deal that is, turn firmly against it. Hey, even these fucks in their fantasies would turn against it, mstly.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:02 PM
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21. I've seen DUers advocate worse in some cases
Edited on Sat Mar-18-06 02:03 PM by jpgray
I realize for most DUers who do so it's just a social game to play the role of "most ouraged" in cases of rape, child molestation &c. (or so I hope)--I believe most people here are quite against the death penalty. I see it as a wholly worthless institution that neither punishes nor deters effectively.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:06 PM
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27. "A social game to play the role of 'most ouraged'." You're on to something
Maybe people are afraid to be seen as "sympathetic to crime" if they ever voice an opinion that punishment X for crime Y is excessive -- NO MATTER WHAT X OR Y ARE.

It's a game that only perverts play. I'm out of it.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:03 PM
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22. I've seen sickos like that at DU too. A lot.
Of course, anyone can type "http://democraticunderground.com" on a browser and type a username and password.

I call them the "Punishist Posse." I suppose it's some sort of perverted sexual fetish borne out of excessive sexual repression or being abused as a child.

Either that, or they're just evil. You know who you are.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 03:32 AM
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61. Speaking as one of the "evil people..."
Everyone has some crime they hate enough to want perpetrators punished in a messy, gory, fashion. There's some degree of a dark side in everyone-even you, Mr. Holier-than-Thou, no matter how much you may try to deny it.

For me? Animal torturers are the ones I want butchered.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:32 AM
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68. No. I don't want everyone tortured or killed. And I do mean ANYone.
Hitler? I'd make him part of a museum display. Keep him in a glass cage in the middle of a room, no discomfort at all, food, clothes, bed, bathroom, even a book every now and then. The room itself is an exhibit of Nazi atrocities, open to visitation. So people could go and learn firsthand what a monster looks like.

So -- you're wrong. And I absolutely GUARANTEE you I am nothing special for having that opinion. Many many people are like that.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:34 AM
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75. I agree completely Commie. Let them face
the suffering they inflicted each day until the end of their lives. A picture is worth a thousand words.

Some will accuse us of advocating cruel and unusual punishment I expect, but truth and reality can be very cruel and unusual. Those that suffered had no choice.

Those that inflicted the suffering did.:evilfrown:

Thank you.:toast:
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:07 AM
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73. "Animal torturers are the ones I want butchered."
Humans are animals. Shall we butcher you if you get your way?
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:05 AM
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78. I have always felt that to retaliate for an evil
with the same/or some kind of evil makes the offended one of the evil.

But that's just my opinion. :shrug:

Torture and violence are still torture and violence, whether done as a lesson, in retaliation or as a sick perverted pleasure.

Righteousness does not excuse cruelty and viciousness. If it did it would give justification to the Inquisition, the Salem witch trials or the Holocaust. Most all involved felt righteous in their actions.

There is no crime I could condone giving punishment for that is done in a "messy, gory, fashion". No. And before you start claiming that I must not have ever had anything horrible ever happen in my family, don't even go there, it's too personal.

And, yes, I do have a "dark side", but it is deep inside and shall ever remain fantasy only, and brief and fleeting ones at that, for those are the thoughts that can shrivel your very heart. Feel them a moment and let them go. Then do whatever you can to help ease the suffering you see and empathize with so deeply. I can tell it hurts you so much to know animals suffer.:hug: Me too.

In hopes of peace,
v

:hi: :hug:
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:16 PM
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79. ....
"Righteousness does not excuse cruelty and viciousness."

Never said it did.

"And before you start claiming that I must not have ever had anything horrible ever happen in my family, don't even go there, it's too personal."

Wasn't going to. I don't have any right to delve into your life.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:31 PM
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82. Did I misread?
Does this statement not advocate cruelty? Maybe I misunderstood it?:shrug:

"Animal torturers are the ones I want butchered."

And thank you for not getting personal.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:39 PM
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83. No. I just misunderstood.
I thought you were commenting on some sort of self-righteous attitude in my post-now I realized why it's easy to assume that.

For clarification, I don't feel self-righteous when advocating the suffering of animal abusers-more like the mental equivalent of a shrug.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:23 AM
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84. I understand.
No harm, no foul seawolf. You are a caring person frustrated by the suffering you know exists and you feel helpless at times to stop it. Normal reaction for a kindhearted person.:hug:

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:05 PM
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23. Volunteers anyone for the job of public executioner?
I guess there would be plenty of volunteers for the job of executioner. Giggling murderers all of them, no wonder they like Pinhead so much. They're just like him. Oh and what's that commandment about not killing? :eyes: And this:

"Finally, if public punishment ever does return, whoever creates the Punishment Channel on cable will make Sam Walton and Bill Gates look like paupers."

They assume everyone is as sick, twisted and perverted as they are. I think they assume wrong.

Oh and how about those who are innocent and wrongly convicted, should they have too also endure the humiliation of public execution with mouth breathers like this drooling, hooting and hollering?
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Harald Ragnarsson Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:01 AM
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54. Yes, them and their immediate family according to the freeps
I sure hope no freeps have a brother, sister, wife or husband that might do something wrong!

:sarcasm:
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:36 AM
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70. Ma'am, you have NO idea how RIGHT you are.
"They assume everyone is as sick, twisted and perverted as they are. I think they assume wrong."
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:05 PM
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24. I agree, child molestors/killers should be publically executed!!!
mandatory> strap a bomb on them on live tv with all networks carrying the feed!!!!!!!!
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:07 PM
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28. This is about as sick as anyone
can get. They ought to be ashamed of themselves for posting such dreck.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:09 PM
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29. here's what we do with the repukes after "Plan X"
"OK, torture them "in private" before the execution, but for entertainment value pick a different way to execute them every time. Solicit public input, give out prizes for creativity.
The keys are swiftness and inevitability of the punishment.

Oh, and execute their family first, all living close relatives
above the age of majority."

except I start with the ones below the age of majority.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:25 PM
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35. Shhh! Don't mention Plan X--- it's a secret.
And don't forget the secret code! Knock three times, turn around four and whisper the code ito the empty coffee can on the right that is hanging by the string.






















*Ten bucks HS is searching for that empty coffee cans we speak.*
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:24 PM
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49. Is this the "plan X" with that odd guy from Illinois
Edited on Sat Mar-18-06 11:29 PM by EST
Who demonstrated some sort of time machine, last year?
I don't really think the laws of physics allow it but the guy (I think he was from Batavia) was an associate prof at the college up there.
I find it passing strange that the government sent agents in and stopped the demo, halfway through, seized all his notes and equipment and took him away for almost three months.
The local paper did a follow-up story and one of the things they mentioned was his one blue eye and one brown eye. I got a little suspicious because I was doing an article for Nature's Way Digest and I distinctly remember, when I interviewed him, that he had this piercing blue stare, from under inordinately bushy brows, and both eyes were the same color blue, with little flecks of hazel.
I haven't had a chance to follow up on this, time constraints, y'know, but I plan to, as time permits.

I do know, and this is the only reason I bring it up, that , before they grabbed him and took him out of circulation for three months, that he was always talking a little wildly. Charlie Snodgrass, in charge of student registration, e-mailed me last Thursday and mentioned that he used to talk a lot about retroactively killing his own great-grandfather, by using his contraption to somehow change time so he could visit history without hurting himself.
Snodgrass also told me that, since his little guest appearance with uncle Sam, he no longer talks about his pet project, even getting abusive if someone else mentions it or tries to encourage him to talk about it.
I think it's all bullshit, designed to frighten the kiddies and old ladies, but when I'm back up there (next week, I think) I will try to feel him out.
Will let you guys know if there is actually anything to this admittedly wild speculation.


on edit: Oh by the way, is this what you were talking about, or is this one of those stupid freeper jokes you guys are always trying to pull? PM me and let me know so I don't make a damn fool of myself, plaese.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:16 PM
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32. Ummm.... no cruel and unusual punishment?
The disrespect of the Constitution among these "patriots" is sooooo disappointing.

That's right, Freeps, I'm being patronizing toward you. Har har.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 03:18 PM
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40. no cruel and unusual punishment? not for killing a kid for sex!!
they do time, come out and do it again and again!
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 03:38 PM
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43. Life in prison isn't the same as, say
burning someone at the stake or feeding them to wild animals. That's what's against the law, not prison sentences.

Being opposed to hanging, drawing and quartering doesn't make one soft on crime.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:20 PM
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33. For why we don't have public executions...
read about the hanging of Rainey Bethea. The outrage over this obscene spectacle was such that it sparked the movement to outlaw capital punishement altogether.

http://www.geocities.com/lastpublichang/

Oh, and Freepers-- insect repellant and maybe some bleach takes care of them and their pathetic rantings.

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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:23 PM
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34. And some want the family dead, too. How nice. What lovely "people."
Oh, and execute their family first, all living close relatives above the age of majority.

Oh, so I guess that includes their believed BFEE when * goes to the Hague?

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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 03:23 AM
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60. I completely fail to understand that...
It is a basic tenet of ANY legal system not to punish people simply for being a relative of a criminal, and here this shit is spouting off like that.

Fuck him.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:34 PM
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36. More "Traditional American Values" from the rightwing adolescents.
And, one general.

On February 2, a top U.S. Marine General declared in a public forum in California that killing was "fun" and "a hoot."

The Marine commander, Lt. Gen. James Mattis, talked of his recent experience leading U.S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. He said "Actually, it's quite a lot of fun to fight; you know, it's a hell of a hoot. I like brawling; it's fun to shoot some people."

He enjoyed shooting Afghan men, he clarified, because "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So, it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."

In response to public outcry over these remarks, the commandant of the Marine Corps, Gen Mike Hagee, issued an official statement praising General Mattis as a "hardened veteran of combat" and "a brave and brilliant military leader." He rejected the idea of taking any disciplinary action against Mattis.
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:40 PM
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37. When I step in manure,
I clean my boots before entering my house. It's one thing to visit FR. It's another to bring that manure over here. What purpose do you think you have served by this? Aren't most DUers aware of freeper-think?


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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 03:22 PM
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41. Well good for you.
I do so love a pious self-righteous response. I was waiting for it.

I have no idea if most DUers are aware of this kind of freeper think. Not that I owe you an explanation, but why not? I thought this was notable and despicable enough to warrent a post. It's that simple. Don't like the manure? You shouldn't have looked. My thread title was explicit. You looked and were offended. Tough.
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 03:30 PM
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42. It wasn't the title.
It was the number of their posts you felt necessary to repeat in order to make your point.


Don't like my objection? In your own words: "Tough".

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Harald Ragnarsson Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:05 AM
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55. How dare you denigrate that most Holy of American Rights?
The right not to be offended?

:sarcasm:
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:53 PM
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38. How many of these idiots are serious, I wonder.
Some are probably just having fun, but I fear the majority of them are serious.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 03:45 PM
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44. These clowns need to step
away from their violent video games and get some fresh air. This sounds like brainstroming for the most violent video game immaginable.

Most of these guys are probably 20 somethings who still live at home and let their Mommies pick up after them. THey should all enlist and see some real violence up close and personal instead of just fantasizing about it on the Internet.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 03:47 PM
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45. As I've said many times before
Edited on Sat Mar-18-06 03:48 PM by depakid
sooner or later, this hate site is going to be directly implicated in acts of violence, and California State Troopers will be knocking at Jim Robinson's door.

The place is chock full of psychopaths. It's only a matter of time before some of them get together and decide to act out on their delusions.

It probably would have already happened, had Bush not been installed as President.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 05:50 PM
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47. Just wait until a Democratic President gets to use the Patriot Act
Those Freepers will be sorry they ever supported that piece of legislation.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 03:49 PM
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46. Ahhhhh....the family values & right to life crowds very own blog huh?
How quaint! :sarcasm:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 05:53 PM
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48. Sadists, or blustering wimps?
Hard to know... Are they sicko's turned on by torture and killing, or are they fraidycats who feel a need to posture like "tough guys" for cyber-streetcreds of some sort? :shrug:
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Harald Ragnarsson Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:05 AM
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56. I vote blustering wimps n/t
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 12:40 AM
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50. How much you wanna bet that a lot of these folks would like to see
these things done, not just to death row inmates and their ilk, but US and other dissenters???
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 12:48 AM
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51. Freepers are despicable scum, but I won't claim to be completely
simon pure when it comes to the fantasy dispensation of justice. I read stories about absoultely appalling and monstrous acts perpetrated upon a child or an innocent animal, and think about what I'd like to do to the bastard in order to give them a taste of their own medicine...
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:00 AM
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52. What makes us different is that we recognize the vital distinction
between what we might personally like to do, out of our emotional reaction, and what is nevertheless right for the state to do.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:24 AM
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53. I appreciate that - I struggle to reconcile those feelings with what
I know in my heart is the right thing to do.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 07:06 AM
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66. I know what you mean about the fantasy dispensation of justice.
I've thought along those lines myself. The first time it happened was when I was quite young and first read about the horrors of the Nazi concentration camps. I fantasized about inflicting the same tortures on the sadistic guards...for a while, anyway. But my feelings immediately afterward were shame and rage that I had fantasized such things. The rage was at the same perpetrators for putting those thoughts into my head, for making the unthinkable thinkable, and so dehumanizing me. Even at a young age I resisted becoming desensitized to cruelty and violence. I still do, but it seems to get harder all the time.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:08 AM
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57. "those young toughs"?!
who talks like that anymore?

then again, the whole conversation sounds like it came from Salem in the 1700's.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:08 AM
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58. They are vile, despicable individuals. They probably always existed but
when this was a decent society, before this administration disgraced this country, they were hidden away in their dark corners and we were happily unaware of their existence.

This administration has given them permission to come out of hiding ~ much like Hitler brought out the scum in his society and gave them power, for a while.

I doubt they are kidding, such people do exist, usually in institutions away society. But even if they are, it takes a very sick mind to even think this way.

A few who weren't kidding when they wrote their torture memos were Rummy, Gonzalez, Cheney, Bush, and the rest of the sickos who are in charge. We've seen the results of their sick fantasies. Those images will haunt this country for a very long time, long after we are rid of the perpetrators.

I got this in an email today ~ I think this is how most people are feeling after five years of Bush. I wouldn't bet on a 'punishment channel'. It's already old and was never very popular anyway.


I Am Done With Violence/Enough scenes of horrid brutality, bloodied faces, tire
irons to the knee.

By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist

It's happened. I have reached saturation, the threshold, my absolute limit. I cannot watch another gruesome fight scene, another wanton massacre,another thuggish gangsta beat-down, another head-butt, skull-crush, pickax face-rip, crazed stabbing, fistfight, leg-smash, finger-chop, nose-crack, throat slash or another gruesome scene featuring a grisly one-eyed mutant hacking off a woman's arms and tearing off her face with a chainsaw and laughing maniacally.

I am, I realize, a broken American. Defective. Problematic. I know that ultraviolence is the American way. It makes us feel righteous and strong. Violence is how we stay, ahem, "free." Without violence, says everyone from the NRA to the U.S. military to the president, we would be overrun by, well, violence. It is in our blood and in our cells and deep in our gun-sucking culture and America without its violence is like a South Dakota Republican without his misogyny. I know.

But I do not care. Something has happened. Something has switched over in the past few years of my life, some sort of awareness has been raised and a threshold has been lowered and I now cannot help but see stark displays of brutish violence -- in movies, on TV, in real life -- as exactly what they are: Dark, dank, base energy, cancerous and poisonous, and I do not care where it is or if it's couched in the context of "raw" moviemaking or
gritty urban inner-city tale. I am done.

Violence no longer informs me. It no longer has the power to teach. It is a one-note song I've heard so many times it has lost its power to stun or impress or delve deep. It now merely tears at the fabric of the soul, punches holes in the anima, scrapes its knuckles on the pavement of hate, and you can shrug and roll your eyes and go watch "The Hills Have Eyes" or "Saw II" or even play some hi-res shockingly ultraviolent video game and
enjoy the brutal escapism and wallow in the bloodshed while pretending it's not slowly, quietly blackening your world view like a smoker sucking down another carton of Marlboro Reds, but deep down, where the meanings are, I think maybe, just maybe, you might be seriously mistaken.


more:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2006/03/15/notes03
1506.DTL
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:59 AM
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59. This is Bush's appeal
Cruelty attracts the cruel. Fear attracts the fearful. Hate attracts the hateful. This is the real reason some people support him - it has nothing to do with policy.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 04:40 AM
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62. So they're sociopaths.

What else is new?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 04:46 AM
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63. A collection of sadists and sociopaths if ever I saw one
They have no concern for the sanctity of human life whatsoever. They couch their barbarism in terms of "justice", but that's not what it is at all. It is revenge, often beyond the scope of the alleged crime, against people who aren't actually criminals, and exacting extreme forms of punishment.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 06:32 AM
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64. Mental patients. They could do with some therapy. NT
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 06:37 AM
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65. "Perp" this, "perp" that. The 101st Chairborne talking tough.
Very very sick people to even put those S & M snuff fantasies in print.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:34 AM
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69. And how does this make the rest of us better than the "perps"?
I just don't get it.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:54 AM
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71. Their reasoning is the same as killers.
No wonder these people hate lawyers. The law (as flawed as it can be) provides a delay to their sick fantasies.

Think about it. Why do killers kill? For greed? Because of illness? For Control or Revenge?



Why did Abu Ghraib happen? Why do the freepers find so much joy in executions?


For some reason, I don't think it's out of anger for the victims or personal sadness.

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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:29 AM
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74. I've seen similar threads before posted here
And my response is always the same.

These pieces of shit LOVE to talk. They love to get graphic, they love to beat their chests and act tough.

Some of them even lurk here.

And my message to them is always the same friendly reminder:

You KNOW what is going to happen to you if you ever try to make your sick little fantasies real. You KNOW what the consequences will be.

None of them have the guts to test that theory.

And for those few that do:

Let them embrace their fate.

So let them talk. Save for a few, it's really all they are capable of.

Pant-Shitting Cowards, the lot of them.

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:43 AM
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76. An objective analysis shows that these are just people. They are
advocating the type of "spectacle" that has, and still does, hold humans attention. Throughout history these types of "events" have been wildly popular, drawing huge crowds.
This is us, like it or not, and we would be well advised to never forget it. A crowd can be turned into a bloodthirsty mob with just the slightest push.
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Iniquitous Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:47 AM
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77. It's pretty much Psych 101 here.
Overcompensating windbags strutting their blown up ideas of "manhood" to make up for the fact they feel like helpless weaklings inside themselves. :boring:

Deterants to the majority crime come from access to drug and alcohol treatment and access to mental health services. That's the majority of our jail population right there. There is nothing to prove watching executions are deterants. There's nothing to prove the death peanlty provides any deterant. Period. In fact according to Amnesty International:

"Scientific studies have consistently failed to find convincing evidence that the death penalty deters crime more effectively than other punishments. The most recent survey of research findings on the relation between the death penalty and homicide rates, conducted for the United Nations in 1988 and updated in 2002, concluded: ". . .it is not prudent to accept the hypothesis that capital punishment deters murder to a marginally greater extent than does the threat and application of the supposedly lesser punishment of life imprisonment."

(Reference: Roger Hood, The Death Penalty: A World-wide Perspective, Oxford, Clarendon Press, third edition, 2002, p. 230)"
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:29 PM
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80. And just think...
GOD IS ON THEIR SIDE!
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SammyBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:31 PM
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81. Too bad that pesky 8th amendment gets in the way of
Freeptard execution torture!
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:25 AM
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85. Sound like freeper dating tips.
nt.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:34 AM
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86. Three Squares a day and clean sheets?
What fantasy world do THEY live in? I'd love to send them into the Alabama County Jail for a few weeks and see how fucking long they'd last, that jail has been compared to South African Prisons by CONGRESS..

I had the pleasure of enjoying some of that southern hospitality a few years back and boy oh boy would THEY LOVE IT too..

Torture? Try laying on a concrete floor in LOCKDOWN while insane murderers in all the cells surrounding you SCREAM and TAUNT each other ALL NIGHT, with every article of clothing allowed to you wrapped around your head, and still it sounds exactly how hell would sound.

These pussy's would get traded for a pack of cigarettes as a pass around bitch, and THAT would be something I would pay to see :)
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:47 AM
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87. The 'Punishment Channel' is already here.
Those god-awful reality shows. Take American Idol: perhaps there are those who tune in to hear the occasional fine vocalist, but most are rubbing their thighs together as Simon roasts yet another hopeful singer who dared to aspire to success above his station. Anne Robinson? We know why people watched Weakest Link; it was to see her spew those carefully scripted put-downs at anyone who even hesitated in his speech. All those Judge ____ shows? We're watching to see people put in their place, and to chortle at the walk-of-shame interviews afterward.

The freeper who had a glimmering of the economic possibilities of a Punishment Channel? Well, he's as slow on the uptake as we might expect. He'd tune in to those public executions, all right, sating himself with righteous rage in between Cheetos, oblivious to the stage-managed nature of the fantasies being presented. Reruns of The Running Man will not satisfy his urges, nor register on his irony meter.

It's bad enough that our media are telling us what to think about crimes and trials. Let them cut right to the executions, and their control over us will be complete. Our justice system is already a big money-maker for those in the prison racket. Do we really want corporate media demanding executions on a freakin' schedule?

Get the widow on the set.
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General Melchett Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 09:42 AM
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88. And They Say The Islamic World is Barbaric...

:puke:
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