anybody watching the Guantamo Forum on CSPAN? 11am

[Viva_La_Revolution]

01:50 PM EST
3:10 (est.) LIVE
Forum
Guantanamo Bay
George Washington University, Law School
John Hutson , U.S. Navy
Peter Raven-Hansen , George Washington University

Denbeaux "report on Guantanamo detainees" says we have not begun to shine a light on the facts...

[Viva_La_Revolution]

1. Video interview with British Muslim prisioner.. wow

[Skidmore]

8. Sounds like Tony & his government basically

turned his back on this man. Brits have nothing to be proud of either. Plenty of shame to go around.

[cspanlovr]

2. I'm recording it

I couldn't watch, I may still not be able to watch, it breaks my heart.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

4. It's pretty rough

be prepared to be pissed off at what's being done in our name. :mad:

[Skidmore]

6. I hope callers to Washington Journal tomorrow talk about this.

[Skidmore]

3. Hi, Viva!!

Thanks for the thread.

OMG, does this just not make you sick? Heartsick? Rumsfeld needs to be locked freakin' up. In Gitmo. With Ablerto, Condi, and *.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

7. Heartsick, pissed off, disgusted, ashamed...

that bout sums it up.

[in_cog_ni_to]

5. I am now! Thanks.

:hi:

[blogslut]

9. kicked

and nominated

[951-Riverside]

10. I wish they would go into details about the "techniques" used on them

while they were detained I've been waiting for the longest to learn about what exactly they are doing to those poor people.

[kayice]

11. I find myself praying for them to find the right words for their stories

to be heard. That one guy seems to be able to get his message across better. They seem like battered women or children.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

14. I'm hearing details about a whole lot of Psychological abuses.

Not so much on the physical stuff, but you don't have to draw blood for it to be torture.

[kayice]

22. Well, there is the new "we didn't lay a finger on 'em type of torture"

pictures of it at Abu.

[WePurrsevere]

12. Please post more for those of us w/o access/satellite & on pokey dial-up.

TIA B-)

[951-Riverside]

13. Whats the name of this movie they are talking about?

[Mabus]

16. "Road to Guantamo"

They are looking for distributor.

[Mabus]

15. "Road to Guantamo" premiered in Berlin

Interesting. I wonder how long before it gets here?

Detainees say the movie has a had a great affect on the people who have seen it. Making people aware of what the government is doing in the country's name and in the name of democracy. No details about what's in the movie though.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

18. Article here from indiewire

:)

http://www.indiewire.com/ots/2006/02/daily_dispatch_4.html

by Eugene Hernandez (February 14, 2006)
A timely new British film about the horrors of the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba is poised to be the buzz film of the Berlinale this year. "The Road to Guantanamo" screened for press this afternoon at the Berlin International Film Festival and will have its official world premiere tonight at the Berlinale Palast in Potsdamer Platz. The provocative new film is debuting at the festival on the same day that a draft report from the United Nations made news around the world, accusing the U.S. of torture at the detention center in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and calling for either trials or the release of detainees there.

lots more

[Mabus]

19. Great! Thank you very much. eom

[Mabus]

17. Hunger strikes

took place when the Koran was mocked, ridiculed, thrown on the floor, ripped, thrown into toilet.

[kayice]

20. The lawyers and students found a pattern that 95% of prisoners

were turned in by Pakistan or others that found fliers dropped by U.S.Gov't....basically they were sold to military.(didn't mean they did anything)

I know someone that served over there at the time, sounds too familiar to the stories I've heard, I'm ashamed.

[Mabus]

23. It hurts

This isn't the America I remember. This isn't the world I remember. So many lives are being needlessly fucked up and why? Why? Is it just greed? I don't understand. Not in my name.

on edit: thanks, I tuned in late and have had multiple interruptions. Not to mention it took me a few minutes to find Viva's thread.

[kayice]

26. You missed the story of the young man that tried to hang himself

when that young lawyer was there; he lived and remains there. He read a note that he gave him right before he went to the restroom and then tried to hang himself. It was gut wrenching.

[Mabus]

29. It will be repeated on cspan2 today

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/schedule.csp I'll look for it but I'm not sure if I can watch it. I've been thinking about an old friend (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2176099&mesg_id=2176237) because of a post yesterday and I'm a little emotionally "exhausted" right now. I don't know if I could take it.

[kayice]

32. I'm very sorry Mabus, I read that yesterday, too.

Prayers for your friend and you also....it is so unfair and so hard to understand it all.

[Mabus]

21. They haven't been contacted by the government since their release

So they hold them for months/years without explanation and then don't have the courtesy/cajones to talk to the detainees when they return home. No apology, nothing.

[951-Riverside]

24. Did anyone see that military guy sitting there?

[Mabus]

25. Mr. Giggly Pants?

and his female sidekick who shared in his joke? What were they smiling and giggling about?

[kayice]

27. Dunno.....the man I thought would be a jerk turned out to be a

kind man. Been fighting on the yahoo boards too much, lol. :banghead:

[951-Riverside]

30. I think he's sitting with the panel

It will be interesting to hear what he has to say

[951-Riverside]

33. *bump*

[Mabus]

34. Looks like he's a defense attorney

[Viva_La_Revolution]

28. Kickin' Break should be over soon

[kayice]

31. Diuretics and laxatives forced for hunger strikes?

The DoD should explain their actions, starting with pissant Rumsfeld.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

35. replay on now!

Kick!