Feinstein says we need "new leaders" in charge of Iraq War

[Cascadian]

Why are there some Democrats (or in this case DINOs!) insisting that we still need to be in Iraq?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/03/21/MNG8OHRHR01.DTL

The Senator from California even insists that we cannot "cut and run". So what if she wants Rumsfeld out of the Pentagon? Do you think Bush would replace him with somebody virtuous and honest? They are without honesty or virtue! Is Feinstein saying that John Murtha is wrong about pulling out of Iraq?

This is one of many reasons I have a hard time supporting the Democrats. People like Feinstein, Cantwell, Lieberman, Landreau, and yes Hillary Clinton are Neocon enablers plain and simple!

Oh! And the "you broke now you must fix it!" doesn't fly anymore!

John

[Untermonkey]

1. What about leading our troops the hell home?

Hey, Diane, stand up and tell them to pull our troops out now. Perhaps if a few more Senators and Congressmen grew a spine and stood up to the thugs in power we might see some change.

[sandnsea]

15. That's what she's calling for

If you clicked to read the whole article.

[bryant69]

2. Why doesn't "you broke it now you must fix it" fly?

There is an assessment to be made - can the United States help Iraq back on its feet (by staying and "maintaining security") or is that a lost cause?

If we can help Iraq back on its feet by staying, than it's understandable that some might believe that we have a duty to do so.

If Iraq is a lost cause, than our only reasons to stay are base and ignoble (i.e. to secure oil, to kill Iraqis for the hell of it, and so on and so forth).

Personally I lean towards Iraq as a lost cause - I think we should pull out. But I'm not so certain of my position that I am willing to label all those who believe we should fix Iraq as scoundrals.

Bryant
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[Cascadian]

3. It IS a lost cause!

A former co-worker who is a Vietnam Vet said it best. Iraq is "Vietnam with sand." Wake up people!



John

[bryant69]

6. Again that's your assessment (and mine)

But is it such a lost cause that anybody who doesn't admit that it's a lost cause must have some ulterior motive?

[izzie]

4. Yar right our of their country.

Leaders that give us the prisons in Cuba make me ill. Plus what are we still doing in Iraq? It is madness.

[still_one]

5. Lets see, they run away from Feingold censure resolution

They believe that new leadership is all it takes to win the war

Incidently John Kerry should have been put on that list also. Yes, he is NOT has hard as the others, but he DOES NOT believe in Murtha's proposal, and believes the Vietnamzation of Iraq will work.

I have no illusions that unless we choose someone like Feingold in 2008 there will be very little difference in the end result between how the democrats want to deal with iraq verses how the repukes want to deal with iraq

As much as I disagree with Nader for running, and on some other issues, it is getting more and more evident that there are less and less differences between the two parties. In six years most of the democrats rubber stamped everything that came from this administration. They have failed to distinguish themseleves, and hope that the corruption of the republicans will cause people to vote for them by default. Well, if you don't express ideas that protect a woman's right to choose, a plan to remove us from Iraq as soon as possible, a remedy for the awful medicare durg prescription plan, which Feinstein also voted for saying something is better than nothing. Then we are doomed

[Cascadian]

7. But that's not true!

There ARE big differences! Some Democrats have worked long and hard to save the California sand flea! How can you say that???? :sarcasm:

Yes. I do agree with you. The lines between the Democrats and Republicans are getting blurred with a few exceptions (Feingold, Conyers, Boxer...) The more this happens, the more it is getting hard to support what is becoming a token opposition party!

John

[still_one]

10. The only thing that keeps me on board are those important exceptions

[TayTay]

11. What has Sen. Feingold said about the Murtha withdrawal plan?

Is he in support of it or does he have his own plan?

[Cascadian]

13. It's just like putting a band aid on a gunshot wound.

:eyes:


John

[Cascadian]

8. kick

[drduffy]

9. In wid da nu boss.....same as de old boss.....

mf'n god damn corporatist pieces of shit like Diane..... husband makes the big bucks on war materiale

[Cascadian]

12. This needs another kick

Since Monkey Boy's press conference is over!


John

[sandnsea]

14. Feinstein follows Murtha proposal

In order for the public to hear what she's saying, she has to knock "cut and run" right wing noise out of the way. That's all she's doing. Why don't YOU help her and repeat what she really said, instead of helping the noise machine drown her and the rest of the Democrats out.

"Feinstein called for American troops to be pulled out of a primary combat role. Their mission instead should be training and logistics, along with air support as needed. She also said the number of troops in Iraq should be slashed from the current 130,000 to about 50,000 by the end of the year...

"Feinstein's proposal follows those made by several Democrats in the House and Senate, led by Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania, who have called for a timetable for a phased withdrawal of U.S. troops in Iraq."

[mmonk]

16. No, we don't anyone new in charge of the Iraq war,

but we do need someone new in charge here. Real leaders don't engage in "pre-emptive wars" or aggressive wars defined as such at Nuremburg. Real leaders give a shit about their country and don't lie to their people for gain.