Dems shift message to target Bush as "Dangerously Incompetent" !

[KoKo]

Says that the plan of attack for Dems has shifted from "Culture of Corruption" to "Dangerously Incompetent" as the Buzz Word for the '06 Elections. Showed Jack Murtha who says the election will be "all about this war" and showed Howard Dean and Sherrod Brown speaking against Bush and his failed war policies. It was a long piece on Brown and was a good piece on Dems Strategy from *GASP* Candy Crowley!

I think this is good news "Dangerously Incompetent" fits Bush to a T and I don't think any of us here would disagree that it's POWERFUL!

And, "Dangerously Incompetent" covers everything he's done...not just Iraq
so it leaves alot of openings to "fill in the blanks." :D

[Joe Turner]

1. How about "incurably corrupt and stupid" n/t

[sutz12]

9. The corruption angle is problematic....

Yes the Abramoff thing is a Republican scandal, but it is too easy for the Reps to do the ole "You too!" tactic.

I like the "Dangerously Incompetent." It covers so much, including the corruption.

[BOSSHOG]

2. Several fronts, several plans of attack

Lets call it multi-attacking.

Culture of corruption is true
Dangerously incompent is also true
As is slaves to the religiously insane

And then there is the multiattack at the same time, dangerously incompetent culture of corruption, once again true. Or Culture of dangerously incompetent corruption. Its so right on so many levels.

What will we think of next?

[bryant69]

3. That is a good slogan

And it has the virtue of being accurate.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[tularetom]

4. Good now somebody has to tell the congressional Dems

that they need to get on the band wagon and start referring to * as dangerously incompetent. I hope they do so because it is a winner but for some reason I'm not holding my breath waiting for Joementum, Hillary, Bayh, or other pink tutus to join the chorus.

[KoKo]

12. Crowley gave the impression it came from Dems...she said memo's and

releases to the press from the Democrats showed they were going to run on that theme.

I don't know which Dem Consultant thought it up...but they deserve a MEDAL of HONOR!

I hope someone can track it down.

[jillan]

5. When I hear these words coming from our leader, Reid

then I'll get excited.

Make that Reid and Pelosi - 2 dems that I am beginning to feel
are dangerously incompetent.

[KoKo]

13. She said that Reid had come out with a 10 Point Plan of Attack

(and I groaned) but then she went on with the clips from Murtha, Dean and Sherrod Brown finishing up the report with saying Dem Memo's and releases to the Press said "Dangerously Incompetent" was what they were going to run on instead of "Culture of Corruption." So there was a switch somewhere in tactics...

[jillan]

15. ooh -

Well I will TRY to keep an open mind.

So far I see the 2 of them playing to the center.
Not now. We have every right to be loud and proud.

[Rose Siding]

6. That fits bush, but this is just Butterqueen in service to her crush

If it's a blended message, cool. "Incompetent" fits bush but he isn't running. "Corruption" is what's winning at local levels. No wonder she wants to re-frame the message.

[KoKo]

16. No....it wasn't Crowley who "made up" the message it's our DEMS!

Check out my posts in this thread which explains more than my OP. She said it was released to the Press today in memos from the Democrats.

[mmonk]

7. Getting better

though it still hides the lies.

[realFedUp]

8. howabout "law-breaker"

I'd add criminal, liar, deranged dictator.

[KoKo]

10. It has a wonderful ring to it, doesn't it. And seeing that displayed at

another hoked up "Press Conference" where he snorts and grumps and laughes and "belly's up to the podium" like a baroom brawler" only ads to his dangerously incompetent image.

His reality is so far removed from anyone elses that "dangerous" brings up visions of the men in "white coats" having to take him away. And, incompetency applies to his whole administration which he told the "press" he will not change.

Plus, he dissed the press today...and with his poll numbers down...it wasn't a good move. Some of them got their backs up. MSNBC's Nora O'Donnel mentioned it several times.. "Attacks on the Press" she said and John Roberts mentioned it too over on CNN (although his report was the weaker of the two) Still..."Attack on the Press" was the way the two cables positioned it ...followed up by Crowley's piece on "Dangerously Incompetent".... Well it just can't get any better for a little while for our Dems to see the two Whore Media Cables do some work for a change.

[bigtree]

11. one of his generals who trained Iraqi troops called rummy incompetent

Sunday:

A Top-Down Review for the Pentagon
By PAUL D. EATON
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/opinion/19eaton.html?...

{snips}

". . . Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is not competent to lead our armed forces. First, his failure to build coalitions with our allies from what he dismissively called "old Europe" has imposed far greater demands and risks on our soldiers in Iraq than necessary. Second, he alienated his allies in our own military, ignoring the advice of seasoned officers and denying subordinates any chance for input.

In sum, he has shown himself incompetent strategically, operationally and tactically, and is far more than anyone else responsible for what has happened to our important mission in Iraq. Mr. Rumsfeld must step down . . .

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/opinion/19eaton.html?pagewanted=print

[ripple]

14. I don't like 'incompetent'

To me, it implies that Bushco bears no complicity for the mess they've made. It's kind of like they were too dumb to know any better.

That is far from the truth.

[RememberWellstone]

19. My thoughts exactly.

They know what they are doing and they keep doing it illegally.

[unblock]

20. but i DO like the "dangerously" part

i think that works well. the 'incompetent' part appeals to those who aren't too extreme, but it does get the 'dangerous' part in as well, which not only appeals more to the base, but also gets the word out that he is NOT a harmless idiot.

[KoKo]

21. We "here" know that....but the Average American can't handle Bush Liar

because it would mean that they were stupid enough to "believe" his lies. We know that human nature says people hate being duped and will try to rationalize that they weren't. People have to gradually be awakened to the lies and they ARE COMING AROUND...if you look at his polls.

Average Americans haven't gotten any news at all...and don't have time to comb through liberal blogs to get it. So, Dangerous and Incompetent really describes him in a way that doesn't blame THEM for accepting or not knowing about his lies. :shrug:

Just my 2 cents.... I wish every American could see now that he's a LIAR but they need proof and unless we could "DU into their Brains" it's going to be awhile before they can see it documented.

[KoKo]

22. Who would you be most afraid of? A "Dangerous Incompetent" or a "Liar"?

Dangerous Incompetent sounds frightening to me. One never knows WHAT a Dangerous Incompetent might do.. but,I figure I can choose to believe or not believe a Liar.

Dangerous and Incompetent makes me fear for my life and my Country. Many Americans aren't ready to believe he's a liar, yet...but a "Dangerous Incompetent" makes folks feel very afraid. Dems can turn the Fear of Terrorists back on the Fear of Bush.

[Gabi Hayes]

25. Criminally negligent liars

[KoKo]

29. Remember....Bush has always called Saddam, "Dangerous." Kind of

turns it back on the old Bushie Regime, doesn't it. :D

[Ufomammut]

17. "QUICK!"...The "incompetence" appeasement is failing!!!....

Begin leaning a tad closer to the truth of the matter.

[Stephanie]

18. CRIMINALLY INCOMPETENT

Damnit!

[KoKo]

24. Who would you be most afraid of? A "Dangerous Incompetent" or a "Liar"?

Dangerous Incompetent sounds frightening to me. One never knows WHAT a Dangerous Incompetent might do.. but,I figure I can choose to believe or not believe a Liar.

Dangerous and Incompetent makes me fear for my life and my Country. Many Americans aren't ready to believe he's a liar, yet...but a "Dangerous Incompetent" makes folks feel very afraid. Dems can turn the Fear of Terrorists back on the Fear of Bush.

[IChing]

30. Mr. Danger who is a dangerously incompetent liar

I like the term myself, Americans should be very aware of what this regime is doing to their country and their freedoms.
Just because something is dangerous doesn't mean we should not face it, hell, I use to surf larger waves, was that dangerous, yes.
But I never made a decision based on fear.
A dangerously incompetent liar is just being kind.


footnote;

Mr. Danger was a character in a book that has been required reading in public schools in Venezuela for the last 40 years.

"The Scornful Foreigner"

The Origins of Mr. Danger

By DICK J. REAVIS

In references to the head of state, Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez sometimes speaks of "Mr. Danger" instead of George W. Bush. New York Times South American correspondent Juan Forero in an October story from Caracas mentioned that Chávez has bestowed that nickname-which makes sense on its face--but he didn't explain what it means to people in the Spanish-speaking world. Neither, it seems, did the American journalists who accompanied President Bush to the recent summit in Mar de Plata.

Could it be that they don't know?

Mr. Danger is a long-standing figure in Venezuelan life, a character in a 1929 work, many times republished, by the novelist Rómulo Gallegos, who was also Venezuela's first freely-elected president, brought down in a U.S.-backed 1948 military coup, ten months after he took office.

Gallegos introduced Mr. Danger in Doña Bárbara, a work that has been required reading in Venezuela's secondary schools for forty years, ever since the return of electoral rule. In Gallegos' novel, Danger is the exemplar of a type of American once common in rural Venezuela. A man of reddish complexion and deep blue eyes, he shows up in the ranch country of Venezuela's tropical plains, where he kills alligators and tigers for their skins. Before long, he carries out a series of schemes to "conquer badly defended lands," Gallegos wrote. In furtherance of his aims, Danger takes part in the murder and burial of an aged cattleman and his mount, but "for him, the scornful foreigner," Gallegos noted, "there wasn't much difference between Apolinar and the horse who accompanied him in his grave." Mr. Danger afterwards usurps the property of a declassed landowner and claims custody of the man's pubescent daughter, until a neighboring rancher-whom Danger had also defrauded--rescues both, Gallegos writes, "to liberate them from the humiliating tutelage of the foreigner.">>>>snip

http://www.counterpunch.org/reavis11072005.html

[KoKo]

31. Interesting background of "Mr. Danger," in Venezuelan literature.

I can see the comparison to our own "Mr. Danger." :scared: And, we have to hope this message by the Dems starts to cause many Americans to come to see him as we here do.

[WiseButAngrySara]

23. Only a fool would believe that this administration is anything but

competent. I prefer to ram the "culture of corruption" tag down their moralistic, hypocritical throats until they absolutely gag on it!

Also, I had to turn cynical, sneering Candy Crowfeet off, as she was giving the illusion that the 'Dems' are using these as buzz words...like the talking points of the Repubs, which she never refers to BTW. Have you ever heard Cindy ponder about the number of times B* et al use the buzz words 'freedom,' 'war on terror,' 'terrorists,' 'liberal press,' 'negative press,' 'enemies' and etc.? I don't think so. As usual, Cindy has her motives, but I must confess I didn't hear the whole thing.

[KoKo]

28. I wish you had stayed with the report. But, I have same reaction to

Crowley as you do.... This time she did a good job. But, maybe it was the "Producers" who put it together for her... :D

[riona]

26. "dangerous" would cover it with one word

[Octafish]

27. CIA reports: ''Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.''

Bush does: Clear brush on south 40.

[Emit]

32. I noted on this DU post yesterday

here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=694967&mesg_id=694967


That even some of the Bushbots have already recognized the "incompetence message". Here's are some direct links to a fanatical Bush supporter who is keeping track of the new Dem message:

http://discussions.pbs.org/viewtopic.pbs?topic_view=threads&p=362103&t=50997
http://discussions.pbs.org/viewtopic.pbs?topic_view=threads&p=362563&t=50997
http://discussions.pbs.org/viewtopic.pbs?topic_view=threads&p=362776&t=50997

[KoKo]

33. Thanks for the links...

Today was the first time I heard about it. Will check them out..

[KoKo]

35. Checked out your post and link. Adding "Dangerous" does seem to

help it out. I wouldn't go with Incompetence alone, either. But, I still like the sound of Dangerous when applied to him. :shrug:

[lpbk2713]

34. Google search on "miserable failure" still works.

An oldie but goodie.

[Cleita]

36. It's about time that they started speaking truth to power.

Now add that they are crooks and liars and we have a campaign. It's time to take off the gloves. This is going to be a nasty election on both sides. I'm sick of our side taking the high road. The big difference between our side and their's is that our side will be speaking the truth. On their side it's usually about whom they can smear with lies. We need to smear them with the truth.

[Atman]

37. But what if he isn't?

What if his "dangerous incompetence" is merely the best excuse they could come up with to allow the world to crumble the way it has under Bush's watch. I think such collapse is exactly what BushCo has in mind, and to that end, he is performing like a champion.

Just playing Devil's advocate...Dangerous incompetence is a good, easy-to-understand message for the masses.

[calimary]

38. "Dangerously incompetent"? I LIKE it! I like it a LOT!

Think back for a moment to the various complaints, blogs, letters to the editor, and editorials/editoral commentary - mainly since Katrina, in which you have seen verbiage speaking of a feeling of actual dread that he still has another few years in office (as in, what kind of damage/negligence/incompetence are we in for as long as he's at the helm?). Yes. DREAD. I think I read it on Andrew Sullivan's blog and elsewhere, too. Plus some "conservatives" who realize how bad he's making THEIR cause look, too.

This is a VERY shrewd move. It not only appeals to those of us already in the choir. It appeals to those, like Andrew Sullivan and others of his ilk, and wavering conservatives and Republican "moderates" and the rest who now have serious misgivings about what they've unleashed by helping him to power. This is a VERY VERY shrewd move.

And it has the added advantage of being the GOSPEL TRUTH.

[KoKo]

39. Agree....shrewd..

Finally they are getting a good message together. I felt "Culture of Corruption" was okay...but kind of vague. I doubt most Americans understand how much corruption there is. Just us here and on the liberal websites. The Press never stays with any scandal and doesn't report most of them, anyway.

But his dangerous incompetency covers alot. Katrina and the Ports Deal points it out. His Medicare Prescription Drug program is hurting millions of Seniors. And, maybe someday folks will go back and vwew "9/11" as the first hint of his dangerous incompetency from which all followed..