Check this out: The War on Christians Conference

[atommom]

Their persecution complex would be funny if they weren't so deadly serious about it.

Conference to Include 'Jews Confront The War On Christians' Panel

3/15/2006 11:01:00 AM

To: Assignment Desk, Daybook Editor

Contact: Ray Wilson of Vision America, 866-522-5582

News Advisory:

On March 27 - 28, Vision America's The War On Christians Conference will convene at the Omni Shoreham Hotel in Washington, D.C.

The conference is not only the first to address growing attacks on Christians, but will include discussions of every aspect of the War on Christians, including -- Hollywood, the news media, the courts and groups like the ACLU and Anti-Defamation League.

Besides celebrated conservative leaders like Alan Keyes, Gary Bauer, Sen. John Cornyn, Phyllis Schlafly, Sen. Sam Brownback and Rep. Tom DeLay, the conference will feature timely and informative panel discussions.

Among the latter is "Jews Confront the War on Christians." Said Vision America President Rick Scarborough: "I am heartened that these Jewish leaders, activists and intellectuals are making common cause with conservative Christians. They understand that attacks on Christians ultimately are attacks on Judeo-Christian morality."

Speaking on the "Jews Confront The War On Christians" panel are Rabbi Aryeh Spero (an Orthodox rabbi from New York City and a champion of traditional values), Michael Howowitz (a Hudson Institute scholar who's spoken out against the persecution of Christians in the Sudan and elsewhere), Joseph Ben Ami (executive director, of the Institute for Canadian Values) and Don Feder (who's both the president of Jews Against Anti-Christian Defamation and the communications director of Vision America.) The moderator is Jeff Ballabon of the New York-based Center for Jewish Values.

The War on Christians conference will also present the following panels:

-- The Gay Agenda: America Won't Be Happy

-- The ACLU And Radical Secularism: Driving God From Our Public Life

-- Christian Persecution: Reports From The Frontlines

-- Hollywood: Christians Through A Distorted Lens

-- The News Media: Megaphone For Anti-Faith Values

-- The Judiciary: Overruling God

-- Taking Our Faith To The Ballot Box

For more information on The War On Christians conference (including a schedule with confirmed speakers) go to http://www.visionamerica.us.

http://www.usnewswire.com/

[Avalux]

1. These people are insane.

The are completely intolerable of those who don't believe as they do, yet scream persecution. x(

[GreenPartyVoter]

4. God's truth!

*lol*

[mmonk]

2. The attackers are always the attacked

in these damn insipid cults. It really is very difficult to keep in mind this is the 21st century.

[Jack from Charlotte]

17. I misunderstood. I thought you could sign up to fight a war against ....

Christianity. The people that brought the world..... Say the earth is in the center of the universe or we'll KILL you, the Crusades, The Inquistion and the Holicaust....

Seems like...... never mind.

[xray s]

3. George Bush supports regimes that kill Christian converts

I guess they forgot to put that one on the agenda.

[rucky]

5. Fuckers. n/t

[MadMaddie]

6. They are holding a conference on this topic...

This proves they are not Christians.....The money that they spent on this event could have helped the recovery in the Gulf...

They have no shame!!!

[atommom]

7. Good point! Can you imagine how many people could have been

helped? The fact that they chose to stroke their own egos instead tells us a lot.

[biscotti]

8. They have to

keep promoting these phony situations to keep their wallets fat. They have to keep feeding the idiots crap to get their "donations".

[joefree1]

9. War on whiny rich crooks?

Do people really believe this crap? We should let loose a pack of Border collies on these folks to herd them back to the farm.

[atommom]

10. Border collies are too nice. I'd use wolverines. nt

[mitchum]

11. Onward Chri$tian Whiners

[C_U_L8R]

13. do you mean Christian Weiners?

[C_U_L8R]

12. we should go

just to mess with em. :-)
Nothing like a little culture jamming...
Fun with fundies !!

[donco6]

40. I would, but I forgot the secret handshake.

They'd spot me in a minute.

[Telly Savalas]

48. What's to say this event isn't culture jamming?

The premise of this conference is so absurd, it's hard to believe it's not a prank.

[Hobarticus]

14. Nothign about feeding the hungry, healing the sick, protecting the weak?

What kind of Christians are these, anyway?

[baby_mouse]

18. They are FAKE Christians following FALSE PROPHETS. NT.

[jedicord]

15. It is about to become a war, but a defensive one.

Waged by those of us who are having to defend our religions (or lack thereof). It is a preemptive war on their part, they declared it, and one we need to fight.

[Ian David]

16. These are the same kind of Jews that cheered as they took away the gays

during The Holocaust.

"Oh, no! We don't hate Christmas! It's the gays and the atheists! Why don't you come for them! They're the ones that hate Christmas! We like you... really... don't put us in the ovens again... Take THEM! THEM!"



Martin Niemoeller was a Protestant pastor born January 14, 1892, in Lippstadt, Westphalia. He was a submarine commander in World War I. He was anti-communist and initially supported the Nazis until the church was made subordinate to state authority.

In 1934, he started the Pastors’ Emergency League to defend the church. Hitler became angered by Niemoeller’s rebellious sermons and popularity and had him arrested on July 1, 1937. He was tried the following year and sentenced to seven months in prison and fined.

After his release, Hitler ordered him arrested again. he spent the next seven years in concentration camps in “protective custody.“ He was liberated in 1945 and was elected President of the Protestant church in Hesse and Nassau in 1947. He held the title until 1964. He was also a President of the World Council of Churches in the 1960’s.

Niemoeller was a pacifist who spoke out against nuclear weapons. He is best known for his powerful statement about the failure of Germans to speak out against the Nazis:

“First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out.

And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.”

He died in Wiesbaden on March 6, 1984.

More:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/niemoeller.html

[bloom]

27. Having the Christian righties and the Jewish righties

getting together seems like a bad thing. They can feed their persecution complexes at the same time they work on persecuting others.


And if we can't complain about the Jewish righties just like we do the Christian righties - then that's fucked up. I think there should be equal opportunity complaining. And I don't know why there is an article on the homepage suggesting lefties are anti-semitic that refers people to Frontpage Mag. - a Jewish rigthtie (Horowitz) organization.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/crisis/06/052_bw.html

[Ian David]

35. I have no problem with going after right-wing godwhacks of ANY religion

And speaking as a Jew myself, I find it particularly reprehensible when those most intimately acquainted with the horrors of The Holocaust and persecution go out and gleefully inflict the same persecution upon others.

and check-out:

Queer allies
The little-noticed alliance between gay marriage opponents and alleged terrorist sympathizers
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/1203/marriage_terrorists.php3

[bloom]

37. Wow - that is crazy - if only THAT were in the news....

JewishWorldReview.com has discovered that prominent religious conservatives — Jews, Catholics and Evangelical Christians — are allied with a radical Islamic group to stop gay marriage. Pushing a constitutional amendment that would restrict marriage to heterosexuals, they work with the Islamic Society of North America. What is ISNA? According to terrorism expert Steve Emerson, ISNA:

•has held fundraisers for terrorists (e.g., after Hamas leader Musa Marzuk was arrested, it raised money for his defense, claiming he was innocent and not connected to terrorism)

•has condemned US seizure of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad assets in the United States after 9/11

•has consistently sponsored speakers at their conferences that defend Islamic terrorists. Recently, a leader denied in an interview with an NBC affiliate that ISNA took any Saudi money but that was a brazen lie as evidenced by a recording of an ISNA conference in which it was revealed that money came from Saudi Arabia.

It just goes to show you - you never know. They seem the most at odds on most things - Israel vs. Hamas - & Daniel Pipes comes to mind - with his Islamaphobia rants.

[northofdenali]

19. War on Christians? Bullshit.

War on neocon fundy fanatics - where do I sign up?

[Cocoa]

20. they haven't even taken down their War on Christmas decorations

and they're already planning for next year. :eyes:

[warrens]

21. Distorted lens

The only distortion is that there hasn't been a movie that really went after these fascists.

[DanCa]

22. I love christians I hate fundies.

There is a difference. :mad:

[Nikki Stone 1]

29. AMEN!

:)

[mattclearing]

23. Finally, a war I can sign up for.

Just kidding, people. :D

[Initech]

24. Sounds like the same people behind that "Justice Sunday" crap

Really, how far are they willing to go? It's sickening. Good ol' American Taliban at it again!

[atommom]

25. I'm sure it's all part of the same gameplan ...

sowing resentment and a sense of persecution to keep the "base" all fired up. I have the feeling this could end very badly.

[Initech]

26. It already has - Bush has been elected to two terms!

:popcorn:

[FiveGoodMen]

28. Find me a REAL war on Xtians! I'm ready to fight!

[NervousRex]

31. Heehee...

Yeah, the title of the OP had me wanting to sign up for said conference.

[Rocknrule]

30. What a bunch of spoiled crybabies

To these people, the mere existance of people of different religious or political beliefs is persecution

[Solly Mack]

32. Wonder when they'll be calling for the destruction of lions

as a pre-emptive measure.

It's really sad the way Christians in America can't find jobs without encountering discrimination...can't rent or buy places to live due to all the persecution they encounter. I feel so bad for them - they can't marry, have to worry about thugs beating them up and worse as they walk down the street. And the way Congress is constantly trying to deny them their civil rights with laws banning them from marrying and from having control of their bodies...shameful.

Remember the old John the Baptist laws when Christians couldn't eat at lunch counters? or ride in the front of the bus? or go to school with non-Christians? How they had to use separate water fountains and bathrooms? How they had to stay in the closet or risk losing everything? How not moving out of the way when a non-Christian walked by could get them arrested? How just looking at a non-Christian woman could get them lynched? When Christians couldn't vote? Couldn't own land? How a Christian will never be considered electable for President? How about how Christians can't walk around a department store without being followed for being Christian? Remember when it was against the law to teach a Christian to read? And let's not forget DWC(driving while Christian)


sigh

[atommom]

39. Yes, their history of persecution is heartbreaking!

:cry:

[Solly Mack]

42. Yes. It's enough to weep over - remember when

Christian children were ripped out of their homes and given to non-Christians so the children wouldn't have to grow up among such savages? And I really cry when I think of the Trail of Footprints in the Sand - when Christians were forced to march hundreds of miles because they were thrown off their lands and forcefully moved to remote, undeveloped, regions.

And how tragic it was that Christians were made to speak english and to deny their own language - as a means of forced assimiliation because the idea was that non-Christians were somehow superior?

I may need another hankie.

[Kerrytravelers]

49. LOL.

:spray: :rofl:

[Solly Mack]

53. I see you're all choked up as well

Hankie?

To dry the monitor?

:)

[FatDave]

58. Well said! (nt)

[area51]

63. Great post.

I wish I could nominate it for the "greatest" page.

[bush_is_wacko]

33. When will they ever realize that it isn't their religion under attack

it's their fanaticism! No one cares what they believe as long as they don't impose their beliefs on us. Why is this concept so hard for them to grasp?

I think they really do believe it's "the end times" and since in "the end times" believers are supposed to be persecuted they think if they make it look good enough God/Jesus will realize "the end times" are here.

When the Bible talks about the end times though I get the sense that the "persecution" it speaks of is a little more relevant than someone telling them to piss off!

NUTS! Every last one of em'!

[undeterred]

34. These people wont wake up- they just reinforce each other

[Jade Fox]

36. We're Victims!! We're so dang special!! Pay MUCHO attention to us!

Today I decided the Fundies are playing the victim card because it's the only way they can feel special. Otherwise they're just a bunch of psalm-singers forever preaching to the choir and getting attention only from each other.

[CatholicEdHead]

38. These people are clearly nuts

To say they have a persecution complex is a vast understatement. That page is every talking point straight from the GOP. There is even a "Patriot Pastor" link. :puke:

All you can say is :wtf: :wtf:

[mongo]

41. We're just not tolerant of their intorerance

Why do we oppress them so by not letting them shove their religion down our throats?

[American Tragedy]

43. Right. They're oppressed, because they're not able to FORCE others

to pretend to believe exactly what they do.

If their God and their faith are so potent, why do they need temporal laws to get people to go along with it?

[Theres-a]

55. Bingo

Well put.

[Old and In the Way]

44. They're confusing labels. Should be the "War on Republicans"

I know it's difficult for these folks to comprehend, but there are many Christians that aren't Republicans. Couldn't be Republican, in fact, because it would be against their Christian values.

[Kare]

59. Ghandi said it best

Ghandi "I don't reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It's just that so many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ."

[Canuckistanian]

45. Institute for Canadian Values?

Not my values. Seems to me they're an American group. They call our Charter of Rights and Freedoms a "constitution". I'll keep an eye on them.

Thanks for the heads up!

[TheBaldyMan]

46. that's not how you spell Christmas

Where do these idiots get their ideas from ?

If there is a war on snooty, holier-than-thou bigots and hypocrites I want to enlist.

[upi402]

47. Dinner break; Chalk with milk sauce

CheezWhiz and Wonder Bread.

[NAO]

50. Where do I enlist?

I want to serve in the armies of the Secular Humanists - possibly the ACLU brigade or the Anti-Faith Megaphone Division...or maybe even in the top secret elite 'Diocletian' Special Forces. Where do I sign up?

[Hissyspit]

51. Don't they mean the War By "Christians"?

God Bless America (and no one else). /sarcasm

(No slight intended to any reasonable Christians reading this.)

[NMMNG]

52. What a crock of festering excrement

My cable company has at least five networks devoted exclusively to Christian programming. This does not include Christian programming on networks not exclusively Christian. How is the media a "megaphone for anti-faith values"?

Christians have taken over the government, leading to same-sex marriage bans in at least 11 states, an abortion ban in South Dakota and a likely abortion ban in Mississippi. More regressive legislation is in the works.

Television programs that are disliked by Christians are promptly barraged by phone calls and e-mails to the point that they go off the air, sometimes after just a few episodes. Christians won't tolerate any programming they consider remotely offensive to them (which could be anything really), but it is perfectly ok for their programming to rail in the most crudely offensive ways against anybody and anything they choose.



Frankly, these people like playing the victim. They consider anybody resisting their efforts at a totalitarian takeover of America an attack on them. It is complete BS.

[progressoid]

54. Hey, why no panel discussions about the Atheist agenda??

I'm hurt. :cry:

[Gelliebeans]

57. Yes when will the Atheist's agenda

be featured???????????? Oh ye I remember we are the ones doing the persecuting! :sarcasm:

Ye all 13.9% of us. :eyes:

[Minnesota_Lib]

61. Damn, I feel left out....my atheist "agenda" doesn't matter any more?

:cry: I'll just have to try harder from now on to persecute them.

[Gelliebeans]

65. Let me know how that

works out for you ? :rofl: ;)

[Brewman_Jax]

56. You can't be persecuted

when you're the numerical, social, and political MAJORITY. :puke:

Have I said how much I hate these people? :grr:

[eppur_se_muova]

60. One more panel: "Only one wife: Says who?"

They don't want to exclude any of their fellow Christians' point of view, do they?

[BlueStorm]

62. Such a loving group

of people :sarcasm:

It's these kind of people that give religion a bad name.

Blue

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

64. How many "wars" do we have going on now?

I doubt this one will go any better than that pesky little one in Iraq.