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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:25 PM
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I am tired of the media saying the Dem's have no message
I just watched Anderson Cooper talking about Tammie Duckworth's winning of the primary and the other Dem Iraqi vets. running for office, then he goes on saying the same bullshit that the media have been saying THE DEMOCRATS HAVE NO MESSAGE to win in November. since when does the party out of power need a unifying message to win congress or the senate. when Nixon was forced to resign from office the republicans took a vicious beating in the congressional elections and the Democrats didn't need any message to win.every district is different.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:27 PM
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1. Flavor of the month -propaganda
The talking points are disgustingly see-through. The less I watch TV news, the more shocked I am when I happen upon the spew.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:30 PM
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2. At this juncture, the only message the Dems need impart is ...
... we are NOT REPUBLICANS!!!

That alone should do it, as far as the American voters are concerned.

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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:11 PM
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13. That will never do.
Our candidates need to push a cohesive message out there and hammer it home. They need to take every opportunity to hold the behavior of the Punks up to the light of day, and take advantage of every opportunity to distance themselves from the vermin.

No more of this 'just enough to get by' stuff. We need to embarrass them so badly that they scurry back under the rock they crawled out from under and don't dare show themselves in public again.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 12:02 AM
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14. Not for nothin', but ...
... that was not meant to be taken literally.

But it is true to a point. I think the Democrats will take back the country in 2006, and 2008.

Why?

Because "the meek shall inherit the earth. They're much too timid to refuse it."
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:30 PM
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3. I liked what the New Yorker said about this in the current issue:
"Everyone complains that the Democrats have no clear, unified position on Iraq, and they don’t. But what this analysis ignores is the fact that they can’t. Without either a federal power center or an imminent Presidential election—without a President, a Speaker of the House, a Senate Majority Leader, or a Presidential nominee—no institutional instrument or leader has the clout to impose a consensus. Democrats advocate a spectrum of more or less similar positions—an array, not a disarray—ranging from Representative John Murtha’s call for rapid disengagement to the detailed “strategic redeployment” plan backed by the Center for American Progress. But the Bush Administration has created a dilemma to which a satisfactory solution, no matter what new policies are adopted, has become vanishingly remote. As for the Democrats, their point is more implicit than explicit. It is that if they had had power they would not have made the same strategic, prudential, and moral errors that Bush and the Republicans have made, and that if they are entrusted with power they will not be wedded to a manifestly failing policy. Their job is to win power without either being completely cynical or talking themselves into a box that would make it impossible for them to exercise it wisely once they got it." — Hendrik Hertzberg

Mde sense to me.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:32 PM
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4. Randi did a GREAT jopb on Lou Dobbs yesterday, pointing out
that same thing. She was able to get in that she testified at a hearing called by Conyers, and they were forced to hold it in a basement room. It's sounding like Randi will be back on Dobbs' show again, and maybe even a one day a week regular, so at least things are beginning to look UP!
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:32 PM
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5. I'm so glad someone else watched and posted this...
thank you! Because I am soooo friggin tired of the same friggin mantra that is a mostly a friggin straight up lie, at best it is certainly a distortion and misrepresentation - Senator Boxer mentioned just the other night that a Bill was passed in the Senate last summer (?) i think, that layed out drawing down this year - 2006.

Why that isn't discussed reported, repeated and amplified is beyond me..

Secondly, the most offensive aspect of this question is the fact that this is Bush's War gawwwd dammmit! Why is it the responsibility for the Democratic Party to have an alternative Plan in the first fvcking place??? The DP isn't the party in power! :grr:

:grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr:
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:34 PM
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6. Dems DO have a message
and it's the opposite of everything the Evil Empire believes in and/or stands for!

Our message is truth, justice, lawfulness and civil rights for all. Among other things.

But you're right; the rethugs have shot themselves in the foot so badly, it would not take much at this point. As for mindless media figures mouthing crap like that, it's merely an attempt to keep control on the Kool-Aid drinkers. You know? Repeat the "truth" as the Chimp says so "it will sink in." Just keep "catapulting the propaganda." That was one of the best Freudian slips (among many) the Chimp ever made. "See, I'm lying but if I repeat it to you enough, you'll believe me." :crazy:
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:35 PM
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7. that's the REPUBLICANS' message!
it's the banana republicans who have no message. they just cycle through whatever propaganda crap their focus groups determine will register temporarily, use it up until people see through it, then move on to the next lie. eventually they trot out the same old lies because people have forgotten why they were lies so it works for a short time again.

their latest crap is to frame the democratic party. "they have no message". that statement says more about the banana republican party than the democrats. they can't get anything right and they can't beat us on the issues, so they attack us on strategy.

pathetic.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:42 PM
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8. Message: Restore Honesty and Competence
to Gov't.
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OhNoTheyDidNot Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:43 PM
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9. Lou said that to Randi Rhodes yesterday and she didn't let him get away
with it - she went into it and said WE DO HAVE A MESSAGE and here is what it is.... but we don't have the senate and we don't have the congress so basically we don't have a voice but that is different from not having a message. SHE RULED THE SHOW... Even Lou admitted it - GO RANDI GO RANDI
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:50 PM
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10. Our message: social responsibility
We want a country that treats its citizens, its environment, and its neighbors with respect, and honors the basic human dignity of every person on the planet. It's clear, and they don't want to hear it. And in fact, most of the Democrats don't want to hear it either, cause it doesn't go over very well with the people who supply the dollars.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:57 PM
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11. Democratic Message, courtesy of...
...John Kerry (March, 2006).


John Kerry’s 10 Point Democratic Plan:


(1) Obey the law, and protect civil rights in this country.

(2) Tell the truth, and tell it to Americans all the time.

(3) Fire the incompetents, and restore competence and integrity to Washington.

(4) Chase the money changers from the temples of democracy, and
reclaim it for the grassroots of this nation.

(5) Bring our troops home from Iraq.

(6) Find Osama bin Laden, and Secure our ports and homeland.

(7) Stop subsidizing “Big Oil,” and start investing in energy alternatives.

(8) Make access to affordable healthcare a right and not a privilege.

(9) Reduce the deficit, and respect work over wealth.

(10) Invest in education, and fight for American jobs that restore the American dream.

In his closing remarks, Senator Kerry said: “WE KNOW WHO WE ARE, and we know what’s worth fighting for. We want to lead this nation to the greatness it deserves. WE KNOW WHAT TO DO, we will do what we need to do, and I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE ELECTIONS OF 2006.”

:patriot: "Here's a little plan for you"...send THAT to A.C. 360 !
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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:00 PM
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12. Me too. What a crock.
If the media needs something simple,

Dem's should just flash a picture of a Mop & Pail.
Pretty much it'll be cleanup for the next admin.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 09:23 AM
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15. The propaganda goes
that the Dems have no message . . . of course, the Repukes also always say that any Dem proposal is just going to raise taxes . . . so they contradict themselves with no shame . . .
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