Lieberman freaks on the air...Joementum Gone Wild!

[xray s]

Touchy touchy touchy. National Review's favorite Democrat has a snit.


http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/03/22/no-shit-holy-joes-cracking/#more-1522


McEnroe: You probably know that I wrote in the Currant last Sunday that if I had to vote in the primary right now I would, with some sorrow vote for Ned Lamont simply because you have kind of drifted so far towards the Bush Administration whose policies I don’t approve of very much. Tell me why I’m wrong, tell me why I should vote for you.

Lieberman: Well I…I think that your statement just then was as ridiculous and unfair as your column was. I was really upset by it. I don’t get to hear you a lot because I’m in Washington but if you’re saying that on the air really I hope your listeners are taking it with a grain of salt.

First off let me go to something that really bothered me. You have this line saying that I’ve come to a point where I’m saying that those who do not parrot my support of the war are unpatriotic and then you take TOTALLY out of context something that I said in a speech that I gave last December when I came back from Iraq and I urge you to go back and look at that whole speech.

McEnroe: Okay, tell me why…

Lieberman: Let me just finish this!

McEnroe then went on to try and read the quote in question and force Lieberman to respond but Lieberman kept cutting him off, he wouldn’t have it:

McEnroe: Let me read the line to you and then you tell me how to interpret it.

Lieberman: I know what the line is! I said it!

McEnroe: Okay but the listeners don’t.

The line actually reads:

"It’s time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be the commander in chief for three more critical years and that in matters of war we undermine the president’s credibility at our nation’s peril."

Lieberman’s response?

Lieberman: This quote is totally out of context. You might have gotten it from the bloggers, who love to do this.

McEnroe: No actually I got it…

Lieberman: Read the whole speech, it’s below your standards.

McEnroe: Senator actually I got it from the New York Times.

Lieberman: Well that’s just as bad! Go back and read the speech, be more responsible.

[Roland99]

1. Fvck him. This nation is filled enough cowards like him.

[Drum]

4. yeah,

cut that dinghy free from our ship!

[bvar22]

23. Goodbye Joe. We gotta go...me Oh My Oh.....

:dem:

[Tom Joad]

19. Joe ain't a coward. he really loves a very unpopular war.

He may be many things, but he ain't a coward.

[Roland99]

27. He's a coward in that he doesn't stand up to the criminals in the WH

[Tom Joad]

28. He doesn't. He stands with them. eom

[Roland99]

29. Ergo, he's a coward.

[tatertop]

31. that traitor is lower than shit

[wordpix2]

67. here's the audio link---scroll down page to Lieberbush

http://www.crooksandliars.com/

[wordpix2]

68. "something you took totally out of context"

[wordpix2]

69. "appeal to Republicans to cut out their partisanship"

[wordpix2]

70. "when you get partisan over national security, then you're doing a disserv

ice to the country."

[wordpix2]

72. "you might have gotten [quote] from bloggers who love to do this"

[wordpix2]

73. "you listen to alot of other people (here I'm focusing on Demcorats)

...and ask them if Murtha is right they say, we can't abandon a fledgling democracy..."

[wordpix2]

74. talking about seniority and ability to work across party lines---that's

for sure!

[wordpix2]

75. "because you're angry about the war, you're going to replace me"

[wordpix2]

76. "look at my record"---lists good parts of his record

[wordpix2]

77. "this notion that I stop every night on my way home to tuck the president

into bed..." hahaha

[wordpix2]

79. "what kind of Democratic party do we want in this state?...us vs. them?"

[PegDAC]

99. Hey, Joe,

you bet your ass! Wish I lived in Connecticut, so I COULD vote against you!

[havocmom]

2. Joe can't handle the truth about Joe

Seems to be a lot of that going around among the neocons and their sock puppets

[rooboy]

3. JoeMental !! n/t

[speedoo]

5. He's actually worse than *.

I truly hope the Democrats in my former home state give him the boot. He's worthless.

[connecticut yankee]

41. Hey, we're trying

see

http://www.nedlamont.com/

see also

http://www.myleftnutmeg.com

Unfortunately, the "powers that be" are backing Lieberman.

[Usrename]

98. The "powers that be" support this whole agenda.

Drunk on power and greed.

[Richard Steele]

6. He parrots the RW "bloggers are liars" meme....

And the NY times is 'just as bad'....

Jesus, Joe, just put an (R) after your name and be done with it!

Yer not just supporting the Repubs anymore,
you are actually mimicking their every MOOD.

Maybe you can get a nice TV show with O'Reilley
after you lose the election, Joe...
"The Adventures of NoMentum and LoofahBoy"

[PegDAC]

101. I absolutely love that image of the SD quarter! n/t

[Gold Metal Flake]

7. He's scared.

I like that.

[Bucky]

8. This is the stunning quote for me

"It’s time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be the commander in chief for three more critical years and that in matters of war we undermine the president’s credibility at our nation’s peril."

and

McEnroe: Let me read the line to you and then you tell me how to interpret it.

Lieberman: I know what the line is! I said it!

McEnroe: Okay but the listeners don’t.

First off, it's his arrogance. I'm probably a little more tolerant of Lieberman's dissent from mainstream Democratic viewpoints. I think it's better to tolerate diversity on some issues since he's actually with us more than three times over the times that he's against us (labor, abortion, environment, public funding of education and the arts).

But trying to keep the host from reading the quote because HE already knows what it is. Sheesh. Try and remember who your bosses are, Joe. You answer to them.

Even worse is that first quote, tho. He's practically endorsing the idea that dissent is disloyalty. Even Bush has gone on record rejecting that pre-Enlightenment dinosaur. Telling the truth does not emperil the nation. Telling lies emperils the nation. Telling the truth only emperils those who are in power, and only then when they have been telling lies.

Shame shame.

[Imagevision]

92. Time for Joe Lieberman to take a hike and perhaps work for Fox!

[Erika]

9. Why doesn't Joe just join the GOP

and praise Zell Miller. He doesn't understand that W and the GOP have sold their soul to world corporatists.

Or he understands, and agrees with the sale. Either way, he needs to go.

[Bucky]

85. He disagrees on labor, abortion, environment, arts, affirmative action...

He's a real Democrat on most issues. He's just not a very good Democrat on issues DUers tend to be united on. I think a primary challenge to him is a hell of a lot more appropriate that purity tests and purging the party of dissidents. Not my cup of tea, but he's carried his state three times for us. That's not nothing.

[PegDAC]

102. Once he got that passionate embrace from *,

that was the absolute end for me. He's a DINO and just needs to leave the party.

[hatrack]

10. Joementum is assuming tsunamic proportions

It'll sweep away the voters this fall, that's for sure!!

[lovuian]

11. He got the Judas Kiss!!!

It really shows how the DNC had poor Gore trapped and how he wasn't suppose to win... Joe made sure of that!!!

[Burried News]

89. I think so too. A Rovian ace in the hole.

[goforit]

12. SCREW YOU Joe!!!.....We all know who you do your bidding for!!

[napi21]

13. How long has JoeBush been in the Senate?

First, let me say...Do you realize HE could have been our VP?!!!!!!

It's unusual for a long term Senator to be unseated, but if the people in CT feel the same as the rest of the coutry's Dems, it's looking like it's bye bye Joey time!!!!

[savemefromdumbya]

49. Yes VP! who picked him?

[MisterP]

14. he shouldn't mix medications

[Rose Siding]

15. Joe has made his own party his opponent.

He'd never get so excercised talking to a conservative interviewer.

[Cleita]

16. You think he put his money on the wrong horse and now

things are going :nuke::nuke::nuke:

[buddysmellgood]

17. Interesting that Lieberman uses being in Washington as his defense. He

has no idea how people feel in his state.

[Rex]

18. Give us a kiss Joe!

"Oh Mr. Bush...smooch smooch...oh Jeff, I mean Joe!"

[Sunkiss BlueStar]

84. That Still Frame is Right On

I can't believe he would do this to our Party. He has sent me a clear message that if I would have been a voter in 2000 I still would have gotten 9/11 , Afghanistan , Iraq , Plame, Katrina... etc
I dont care for Republicans but it hurts so much more to be betrayed by a Bluey.

You're wrong Joe and You know it:mad:

[upi402]

20. Cantwell, Biden, Lieberman -order of liberal Senators

Can't beleive Maria Cantwell, WA (D) has only a 1 Senator more liberal voting record position that Joe.

[usregimechange]

21. He sounds like Tom Delay!

[goforit]

22. GO Mc Enroe!!!!!!!

[Ksec]

24. Joe chose sides. Joe chose bush. Joe loses. Poor Joe.

[swag]

25. I heart firedoglake

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[Greeby]

30. As if you needed another reason, support Ned Lamont!

http://www.nedlamont.com :bounce:

[LSK]

32. everyone support Ned Lamont

http://www.nedlamont.com/

[wordpix2]

54. Joe's opponent is great! www.nedlamont.com I met him, great guy

[Jade Fox]

33. Please tell me Lieberman won't be re-elected!

He is such a JERK!

[TankLV]

34. FUCKING VICHY DEM ASSIPE!

God - I almost hate this son of a bitch MORE than bunkerboy - because he is CONTINUALLY giving him aid and comfort while at the same time criticizing TRUE Dems when they justifiably DARE to criticize that WAR Criminal we have for a pResident!

[Warren DeMontague]

35. It's time for "Democrats" who still TRUST "President" Bush to 'fess up

as to exactly what kind of crack it is that they've been smoking.

[HerbieHeadhunter]

36. Wow, that was a gift to Lamont...

Lieberman is such a fucking asshole.

[Armstead]

37. Colin McEnroe has always been Way Cool

He's got a daily radio show on WTIC in Hartford. Not a fiery Randi Rhodes type liberal, but a liberal with an amzing sense of humor and insight.

Good to see he took on Joementum.

[drbtg1]

50. True. He'd make a great addition to AAR or MSNBC.

I could easily see him guest hosting on Majority Report or giving Carlson heart attacks. He's not as prepared as Dr. Maddow (vastly underused by MSNBC), but often very insightful and funny.

[drbtg1]

52. In fact, I see a future Countdown segment interviewing Mr. McEnroe

Our number 3 story this evening, Has Joementum Stalled?

[Armstead]

53. It would be great to see him get more exposure

[quiet.american]

38. Given that Lieberman was actually elected VP, and not Cheney --

-- that quote about the "president's credibility" is all the more outrageous.

On the 2004 campaign trail, one of the only lines I liked from Lieberman was something he said along the lines of "How do I know we can win? Because we already did in 2000."

So, even he acknowledges Al Gore's presidential victory was usurped by the lying sack of stuff and his minions now in the WH.

Yet, Lieberman hurries at every opportunity to prostrate himself before the Il Busho.

Shades of McCain.

[Justice Is Comin]

39. They must think they can say

things in a time warp. Then when it's convenient for them they just restart time and everybody kisses their feet. What a schmuck. Do your buddy Hannity. We've had enough hum job.

[Leopolds Ghost]

40. "I got it from the NYT..." "Well, that's just as bad as a blog!!"

"It’s time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be the commander in chief for three more critical years and that in matters of war we undermine the president’s credibility at our nation’s peril."

Lieberman: This quote is totally out of context. You might have gotten it from the bloggers, who love to do this.

McEnroe: Senator actually I got it from the New York Times.

Lieberman: Well that’s just as bad!

Lieberman: Read the whole speech, it’s below your standards.

[donco6]

42. He got caught, and then got mad.

Too bad, Joe. Hope you enjoy gardening or whatever you do back home.

[CTyankee]

43. PLZ folks, don't get your hopes up about Ned

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for Ned, gave him money and have volunteered to work on his campaign. I have his sticker on my car. But we have to be realistic. I'll work my heart out for him but the obstacles are formidable. The primary is Aug. 8. Could there be a worse time to hold a primary? Half of the state will be on vacation, including me (I am getting my absentee ballot but must wait till after mid July, which means that all those Yalies who would vote for him and are out of state are pretty much voided). Hope that it's the Rep. half, not the Dems.

[Chiyo-chichi]

44. I read the speech.

http://lieberman.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=249522

Sorry, Joe. It's not like that phrase was take out of context.

In the same speech Joe also said: "I recall here the wisdom of Secretary of War, Henry L. Stimson, who served our country during World War II and the beginning of the Cold War. Stimson said that sometimes the best way to make a person trustworthy is to trust him. There is wisdom there."

Joe, Joe, Joe. As someone who supported mandatory "three strikes" sentencing laws, you should realize that Bush has had waaaaaaaay more than three.

[DinahMoeHum]

45. "JOE GOTTA GO" - new bumpersticker idea.

:evilfrown:

[oc2002]

46. when Leibernut runs for re-election send money to his opponent!

Republican or Democrat, I JUST WANT LEIBERNUT GONE FOR GOOD!

[wordpix2]

55. www.nedlamont.com---Ned needs $ right now to be in a primary vs. Joe

[Greyhound]

47. Joementum and DLC supporters! Where are you?

Your bot is under attack...

[madinmaryland]

48. It's time for the Joebituary!

Joe revoir, Joe. Joerivederci. Hasta Joe Vista

http://www.slate.com/id/2094759

[Burried News]

90. SighJoenara.

[The Stranger]

51. Vote Democrat. Get Joe Leibercon out of office.

[emald]

56. this is a fucked up little man

who wants in the worst way to be BIG. His comments in the speech are ludicrous and those on air stupid. Joe little man is whats wrong with this country.:puke: :puke: :puke:

[janx]

57. "I don’t get to hear you a lot because I’m in Washington"

That says a lot.

[Marr]

59. Hey- that'd look great on a Connecticut billboard.

Nice big picture of Lieberman having a fancy dinner with Bush, and, "I don't get to hear you alot because I'm in Washington."

[janx]

60. Somebody should erect one in Hartford.

Like the Delay billboards...

[Marr]

58. HAHA! Joe complains that the NYT has a liberal bias. As if that will

help his argument that he's not actually a Republican.

[nolabels]

61. Just a short time left to help Connecticut to oust this fella

(snip)
But, it will take an unprecedented grassroots movement in Connecticut, and unprecedented support from Americans everywhere, to beat an entrenched and well-funded incumbent like Joe Lieberman.

Our campaign cannot succeed without your financial support!

- Ned
(snip)
http://www.nedlamont.com/contribute.html


Sounds like a good reason to give money to me :-)

[amb123]

62. JOE MUST GO! JOE MUST GO! JOE MUST GO!

I simply do not trust his open support of the Bush policies which is proof he has no loyality to the Democratic Party. If somehow we win enough seats this year to gain a 50-50 tie in the US Senate, even though VP Cheney would break tie votes against us, I believe that the Repugs will convince Joe to switch parties and allow the GOPigs to keep control.

Another reason why JOE MUST GO! Support Ned Lamont.
www.nedlamont.com

[DanCa]

63. You know the worst place in hell is reserved for Judas Icariot

I bet Judas will breathe a sigh of relief once Uncle Joe Liebermen gets thier

[Arugula Latte]

64. There is no word to express how much I despise that traitor.

x(

[Beelzebud]

65. "Joe Gone Wild"? That almost put me to sleep listening to it...

If this is Joementum freaking out, i'd hate to see him when he's just normal.

God that was boring.

IMO this is a few blogs trying to make something out of nothing. NOthing I heard in that audio I would describe as "freaking out".

[wordpix2]

80. he did get a bit testy with Colin Mc

[DODI]

97. That was Joe freaking out. I have never heard him like that.

I have been following him since he was the AG here in CT.

[Norquist Nemesis]

66. If there were any doubt before

he's erased it all about being a Con. Check his campaign donations for some hefty dollars from Zell.

[dghll]

71. Oh sure - bash JoeLier berman - however

he was almost VP -- We wanted him - um - didn't we?

[Beelzebud]

78. Notice when ppl talk about how great Gore's campaign was

they always conveniantly forget Joementum was his running mate...

[951-Riverside]

81. Remember that was back in 98' or 99

That was pre-bush, pre-war & pre-americalosingitsmind

[Name removed]

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[Seabiscuit]

83. Don't let the door slap your ass on the way out, Joe.

[MurrayDelph]

86. Yeah, you might

chip a tooth!

[PATRICK]

87. My outrageous blog

Well, he needs something real to complain about. How about this?

Lieberman, working for the same interests that want to steer US policy in some of the directions we have seen so awfully bungled and exploited by tye Bush WH, was there to keep Bush honest and blatantly play to the Jewish voters in Florida. Once Gore went populist, even the tepid kids gloves debate with the Architect, Cheney, was not enough to guarantee Gore's disciplining. lieberman all but tossed Florida at a critical moment in seconding the GOP spin about the post election military ballots. The fairness principle simply did not weigh against strong hints of fraud in their collection and transportation, after election night.

Whatever L's pure motives might have been, his dues to the established bipartisan agenda were paid and he assumed, added to unlimited ego(at least THAT is in full evidence), he decided to triangulate against his own party or least the majority of true popular opposition by glomming onto Bush's coattails. Running, even losing the primary, would be more dues paid in service both to the upper echelon Dems and the Bush "aura". Like the weak Dem orators and losers both Congress and the media love to have on for both their loyalty to the president Select and ineffectiveness, L's renowned contributions have been to weighing down the authentic voice of opposition that cries to heaven for simple justice, plain facts. Sure he votes Dem in laudable causes, now losing causes. His best known words in public boost the GOP breadwinner.

Since being humiliated, he doggedly sticks to the roadkill line between forthright DINO and DLC infallible cleverness. What was supposed to guarantee his seat is being used against him. So is he a stalking horse, a troll, serving the GOP interests or is a true believer Prince of Foggy Bottom DLC "principles"? Perhaps the heat of the campaign can finally swerve him off the straight and narrow to openly ride against the traffic or get in line, but more so it it seems absolutely fixed that he can only vary between the two narrow options, one heinous(troll), one absurd(DLC rightie), both smug and intolerable.

[David Zephyr]

88. Bye, bye Mr. Lieberman. You'll soon just be another citizen.

And your Senator will be named Lamont.

[Iniquitous Bunny]

91. Read McEnroe's blog:

http://blogs.courant.com/colin_mcenroe_to_wit/

Great writer too! :thumbsup:

[Lena inRI]

93. Lying-liverlips-Liberman get lost. . .

I shudder at the thought that you were picked to be VP Dem candidate in 2000. . . NO MORE EASY STREET

you're bought and owned by the BushCo corporative government.

:thumbsdown:

[sellitman]

94. The good thing about * stealing the Presidency is that ........

It kept Joe out of Washington. :sarcasm:

[neuvocat]

95. The endorsement from Ann Coulter doesn't help either.

She's said he is a democrat she approves of.

[Nutmegger]

96. That's as bad as a Hannity endorsement.

:puke:!!!

[bigwillq]

100. It's time to go JOE!

What an ass.


Lamont in '06! :bounce:

[NobleCynic]

103. Does this Ned Lamont have a decent shot at knocking him out in a primary?

I mean Lieberman polls better among Republicans than Democrats.

<http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2006/01/conn_senate_survey_says_a_4th.html>

He's up for re-election this time, hopefully there is someone out there who has a chance of taking both him and the general election. I'd hate to see him taken out in a primary only to see the seat go to a Republican in the general. How does his Senate district lean in terms of political registration?