Bill Frist: Democrats are to blame for $8 Trillion debt

[Rose Siding]

He sent this yesterday in an e-mail to supporters-

“The Democrat alternative to Republican efforts to restrain spending is clear: Continue to spend beyond our means, mortgaging our children’s future by saddling them with a debt of $8 trillion … and continue to ratchet up taxes to pay for their fiscal irresponsibility, stifling the American economy,” Frist wrote.

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[rpannier]

1. That's just too weird...

I never thought I'd be agreeing with trent lott, but frust really is losing it.

[mwb970]

75. Frist makes Trent look brilliant.

And he's more of a gentleman, too.

[wordpix2]

114. when does inside-trader Frist get indicted? Story is growing, see link

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/1/19/17445/7449

[Julius Civitatus]

135. My brain hurts just reading that quote

Seriously, the thing to ask these people is the following:

Republicans own Congress since 1994

Republicans own the Senate, the Presidency and even the Judiciary since 2000

Democrats own nothing and amount to nothing.

When are Republicans are going to be f***ing responsible for anything?

WHEN????

[ceile]

162. mine too. n/t

[demswin06]

164. Answer...

NEVER!!!!

[RazzleDazzle]

179. Yup. Exactly as long as the Dems and people let them & no longer.

[rodeodance]

2. my gawd--and idiots will actually believe the jerk

[ObaMania]

57. Of course they will..

.. because the spineless DEMs will not come out and counter this statement, let alone stand up for themselves.

[redqueen]

113. If Dems don't counter it may be because it's just a fundraising letter.

I hope they use it anyway...

[The Backlash Cometh]

66. There should be a law, that when someone says something this insane,

someone should look into it.

[NewJeffCT]

93. My professional diagnosis as an accountant

I've seen Senator Frist on television, so I feel qualified to say that Bill Frist has no fucking clue when it comes to money & finances, balance sheets, cash flows, income statements, budgets, fiscal planning or fiscal responsibility.

[rpannier]

184. That is really F**KING funny

I'm glad you said something. I've often believed that watching him on TV. But, since I lack a degree in business or accounting and finance, I wasn't sure. Thanks for giving us your expert diagnosis.
Just one question though:
Did you take at least five minutes to make your diagnosis?

[NewJeffCT]

199. two step process

1) Initial diagnosis was batshit insane within seconds
2) verify that with supporting statements made by Frist over the years.

[seeminer21]

142. Yeah...

Great law. Saying "insane" things should be illegal. :sarcasm:

[The Backlash Cometh]

144. If they're said by political leaders, yes, indeed.

In fact, they remove judges from the bench for incompetence, which can also mean for reasons of insanity.

[connecticut yankee]

177. Yes, and

Black is White

Night is Day

War is Peace

Love is Hate

Thank you Mr. Orwell.

[K8-EEE]

3. WTF? But then it figures..

that all his "supporters" are so freaking brain dead that they would believe the Dems have control now?

[NanceGreggs]

12. Of course his supporters ARE NOT brain dead!

He knows - he's personally reviewed videos of every last one of them, and they're all alert and responsive!

[SoCalDem]

53. and very thirsty

:)

[Carla in Ca]

196. lol! And will someone, anyone

take that prescription pad away from him! Really, he's going to hurt himself! (not that I care)

[NanceGreggs]

4. Uh, 'scuse me, Mr. Frist ...

... exactly who was it that ran up that $8 trillion dollar debt in the first place?

Just wonderin' ...

[Rex]

5. Crazy as the Crisco Kid.

I guess the insider trading scandal is starting to wear Frist down.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

6. He's a fukkin lunatic.

(Which is unfair to lunatics, actually.)

He also has the weirdest plastic hair you can get. My brother sez he got that rug from a late nite TV ad.

[LSK]

7. LOL THATS HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who let these guys out of the insane asylum?!?!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Golden Raisin]

56. Its not hilarious at all.

MORE EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHES SYNDROME. I see NO humor in this at all. These people (Bush, Norquist, Frist, Rove, Cheney) say "black is white" and "white is black" with apparent impunity (except for the occasional Feingold). The whore media then spreads/saturates this shit around just like manure and then the sheeple swallow the lies whole. And where are Pelosi, Dean, Reid? They should take off the gloves, and just come out and call Frist a goddamn fucking liar, which he is. What we've spent on Iraq/Afghanistan alone under Republican leadership/domination of both houses is and will continue to be enough to bankrupt this country. And they aren't done.

[madokie]

98. Oh, but in a few months they are so done, fork tender.

[JHB]

157. I hope so, but I'll believe it when it happens.

n/t

[demswin06]

165. We all hope...

but there is still Diebold.

[madokie]

170. Yes that is my biggest fear and if we allow it to happen again,the

thievery of another election, I guess it can be said we deserve it.
btw welcome to the DU, many many hands and lots of open arms.

[Golden Raisin]

194. Not if the elections are run

like they were in Florida & Ohio.

[Erika]

8. Even the conservatives aren't swallowing that.

Frist is an idiot...plus a cat killer who lied to humane shelters and adopted cats...then, medically experimented on them. That's the best spokesman the weakened W can come up with?

Hilarious.

[Imagevision]

182. Frist I think is a toss up for stupidity compared to Bush - total idiot!

[jsamuel]

that's it, the Republicans have officially lost it

[napi21]

9. WHAT? Ahh, which party has been the majority for 12 years?

I'm missing something in that quote! If the Pubs took the majority in Congress in 94, you're really saying the MINORITY made all the spending decisions?????

Hmmm....

[onehandle]

10. Who controls all branches of the government?

Stoopid cat killer.

[SethInUpstateNY]

11. Screw you, Frist!

The reason we have this debt is because you're boys in the Senate and your boy in the White House keep spending money on this stupid war in Iraq. Also, they keep giving tax breaks to their rich, fat cat buddys.

[Warren DeMontague]

13. Bwahahahahahahaha! Uh, yeah. Republican Congress, Republican Preznit.

Democrats' fault.

How'dja diagnose that one, doc? On the teevee?

[Montauk6]

14. You seem surprised, Rose.

Didn't you know that Bush and Cheney are Democrats, and that Democrats control the House and the Senate? :sarcasm:

Seriously though, I wonder, at what point, will the RW pundits start calling Bill Clinton an "honorary Republican" a la JFK?

[Rose Siding]

27. The only thing that would have made it better is if he'd been wearing

these:

http://www.zymetrical.com.nyud.net:8090/images/products/groucho.gif

:rofl:

[maxrandb]

147. You'll Laugh

but Limbaughs excuse for the utter destruction of our budget and the explosion of our debt is that there are too many liberal Republicans in Washington.

See, it's not the Republicans or Boooooooosh that is responsible...it's the damn liberals.

:crazy:

[Ksec]

15. Well, the Dems do control both houses AND the Presidency...

I mean cmon.

[Montauk6]

30. Get it right, Ksec!

You forgot the Supreme Court...


:+

[rucky]

47. we'd all know that if it weren't for the liberal media. n/t

[ninkasi]

16. I only have a couple of observations...

The first is that I don't know who the "Democrat Party" is. I'm a member of the Democratic Party; does this mean that Frist is a member of the Republic Party? My second question is how the hell were Democrats able to achieve this miracle, with Frist's party controlling both houses of Congress, and the Presidency?

They whine and pout even when they're in the majority. It's absolutely pathetic. I'd be too ashamed to be a member of the "Republic Party."

[Erika]

20. The scientific survey showed the GOP are whiners, always

They were born that way. Some sort of defect. They are always the victim and nothing is their fault. Frist proves this nicely.

[mwb970]

78. Limbaugh's show is 3 hours of whining, every day.

At least I assume it is. I can't listen longer than about 90 seconds myself. He's like a grownup child who never outgrew the "terrible 2's".

[Rose Siding]

23. Bush said "Democrat something or other" yesterday

I'm just waiting for that usage to hit the traditional media

[niyad]

29. that particular usage has been around for years. if I remember correctly,

that moran newt gingrich and company started it, demonstrating their lack of knowledge of what is supposed to be their native tongue.

[Jim Lane]

50. Origin of "Democrat" as an adjective

This usage predated Gingrich. On Wikipedia, we had a discussion about correct terminology. One contributor wrote, "'DEMOCRAT PARTY' was introduced by Republicans about 1952 to needle Democrats. Democrats really hate the term so the GOP uses it every chance it can. Independents and scholars never use it." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29#Name_choice

I can't personally vouch for dating it back to 1952 but I do remember hearing it before Gingrich. It's not just "Democrat Party", but "Democrat ideas", "Democrat candidates", etc.

[connecticut yankee]

68. True

I was around then, and I remember hearing it used at the Repuke convention (which I watched on TV).

They're such a bunch of morans.

[mwb970]

85. Why don't we start using it ourselves?

It's not really much of an "insult" (we/they are Democrats), but once we start using it, it takes the zip out of their using it.

[ProfessorPlum]

158. Because it's horrible

I've caught Randi Rhodes using it a couple of times.

It sounds to my ear exactly like using "jew" as an adjective. Like when idiots say "I went to a jew doctor" or "the jew york times". I hate to use those phrases here, they are horrible. But that's exactly what "Democrat ideas" sounds like to me.

[NewJeffCT]

94. they've been trying that one for a while

Supposedly, Democratic Party plays better with focus groups than Democrat Party.

[bunkerbuster1]

64. Saying "Democrat Party" is childish. This guy wants to be President?

Even wingnuts know that name-calling like Frist's (and using slurs like "democrat party" IS name-calling) is not Presidential.

[immoderate]

17. Republicans are helpless to resist....

...the advances of the big, strong, manly Democrats. We made them do it!:silly:

--IMM

[zulchzulu]

18. Please have Frist be the Repug nominee in 2008

This is just too easy! So your party has control of the House, the Senate, the White House, the courts and the media...and you think people are so stupid as to believe it's the OTHer people who are in charge.

In-fucking-credible.

[Roland99]

19. Uhhh...the GOP has been in control of Congress for most of 12 years

and complete control of the gov't for the last 3 years!


WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT!!!

[Jade Fox]

21. Okay, even the base is gonna laugh at this.....

"You Democrats made us spend all this money!"

[magellan]

22. Repubs lie with impunity now

And why not? They probably figure they got away with Iraq, they can get away with anything.

And they're right.

[mnhtnbb]

24. Criminy. Frist is copying Bush now. Open mouth, lie.

[RazzleDazzle]

181. Oh, not like he needed any coaching in the LYING department

[eleny]

25. K&R

That is some seriously funny shit.

[Ksec]

26. Hes like Stephen Colbert, only serious.

[JudyM]

28. Stuff a sock in it, will ya, TinMan?! n/t

[Gregorian]

31. That he can even do that speaks volumes on the American people.

There are people eating this shit up. Where else can a large fraction of Americans get the facts? Many don't care, or have good bullshit detectors like us. Some have their own agendas. Some are just going along in order to validate spouses or parents. Lots of excuses. But sadly, Frist, not unlike the Nazi propaganda producers, knows that when a public speaker utters anything, it becomes a sort of truth all on it's own, and requires much in order to right it.

YUCK. They really do want a fight. They're inevitably going to end up with a very big mess on their hands. Then it will be very obvious whose mess it really is.

[maxrandb]

149. No!

It speaks volumes on how stupid they think the America people are.

To even try this, means that the Republican Party believes the American people are dumber than dirt.

Just a minor correction, because this really does show their utter contempt for the American people.

[Gregorian]

159. I don't know.

I hang out in a British forum, and the consensus is, Americans are dumb. And from what I have witnessed in their forum, they are a magnitude ahead of us. Their young know science, art history, history, politics. Our kids know Grand Theft Auto Playstation moves.

Yesterday I was talking with a friend who owns an engineering company just north of San Francisco. He cannot find help. There is no one qualified to weld or machine. And it's no surprise since I can't even go back to my trade school in Silicon Valley, because it was auctioned off in the 80's. We don't value knowledge here. We value comfort.

I'm not disagreeing with what you said. It may sound that way. I'm just of the impression that we are at least half a nation of idiots. Not here at DU. Not my sister's son. But she lives in Los Altos. The average house price is something like $2 million. They have schools. They have brainy people all over the place there. But average America?

I honestly think that the next phase is where Chinese costs rise, and manufacturing returns to America. But not in a good way.

I'm blabbing. Time to get some work done. I hope I'm wrong. I have nothing to gain by being right here.

[demswin06]

166. and some Americans are dumber than dirt...

especially the ones that constantly vote over and over again for the GOP,voting against their own self-interests,something about doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result.

[Kerrytravelers]

32. Somebody better take the kool-aid away from the cat killer.

[ohtransplant]

33. Hey Senator!

How much of that $8 trillion was rung up under Ray-gun, *41, and *43?

rethugs - the borrow and spend party!

[LaCrosseDem]

34. poor Bill is in a persistent vegitative state

I can tell every time I see video of him. And I'm not even a doctor.

[NJCher]

79. OMG!!

Coffee/screen/Handiwipe moment!




Cher

[SammyWinstonJack]

92. !

:spray:

[LynnTheDem]

35. ROTFLMAO!!!

Wowzah! :wow:

:rofl:

[Bluebear]

36. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!

That is all.

[flaminbats]

37. that sugar coated, tax and spend Congress...

of coarse those big spending liberals are to blame! The Democratic Congress has been the Republican punching bag for decades, why not now? :shrug:

[specimenfred1984]

38. "*" Has Borrowed More Than All 42 Prior Prezs Combined

---- Bush Borrowed More Than All Previous Presidents Combined, Group Says

(CNSNews.com) - President Bush and the current administration have borrowed more money from foreign governments and banks than the previous 42 presidents combined, a group of conservative to moderate Democrats said Friday.

***

According to the Treasury Department, from 1776-2000, the first 224 years of U.S. history, 42 U.S. presidents borrowed a combined $1.01 trillion from foreign governments and financial institutions, but in the past four years alone, the Bush administration borrowed $1.05 trillion. ----

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=%5CNation%5Carchive%5C200511/NAT20051104b.html

[Oversea Visitor]

39. Ouch

Madman this one
Sad US politics now out of reality
How the hell this all happen

[annabanana]

59. rigged machines...

(and the assumption on the part of the powerful that they will STAY rigged)

[cascadiance]

40. Yah Bill... Up is Down! Down is Up!

We know about the idea of if you lie enough it gets believed as the truth!

There's another saying that you should remember too...

"Payback's a bitch!"

[SeveneightyWhoa]

41. My long-distance diagnosis:

Persistent Legislative Reprobate.

[Justice Is Comin]

42. Frist you couldn't be

any more of an asshole if you wore a twin beer can hat on the floor of the Senate.

[jillan]

43. In Frist''s case - it wouldn't be beer

It would be Jesus Juice.

[orleans]

44. why doesn't he just come out and say IT'S CLINTON'S FAULT?

apparently everything else is

if bill had balanced the budget BETTER than george would have had more money to work with!!


:puke: :sarcasm: :puke: :sarcasm: :nuke:

[NJCher]

83. why

The Clenis has been adopted by Babs and Poppy. You hadn't heard?




Cher

[Zinfandel]

45. 9 trillion and counting...12 long years of a republican congress!

[Initech]

46. First rule from the Limbaugh / Hannity school of arguing:

When all else fails, blame the democrats for every fucking thing on this planet! :mad:

[nadinbrzezinski]

48. Miser Majority Leader who makes the decisions

the Majority... who has the majority, oh yes YOUR PARTY... how did you pass Logic 101 is a good question, a gentleman's C perchance?

[LittleClarkie]

49. How could we be stifling the economy if it's supposed to be

going like gangbusters.

And how can we be raising the debt when we're in the minority?

And who keeps raising the ceiling?

And who won't repeal the tax breaks for the rich.

And wasn't it a Senator from the Republican side who refuses to give up his "bridge to nowhere"? Can anyone say "pork"?

Sorry pal. Y'all have been in charge for a few years now. Are you now saying that you and your party are so ineffectual that it is STILL our fault that things are the way they are? Why did anyone elect you guys in the first place? Apparently you can't get anything done.

Sheesh.

[bowens43]

51. Huh?

Repugs control both houses of congress and the white house and it's Democrats fault????

[B Calm]

52. This kind of like the Clean Sky law?

[wordpix2]

117. sounds like "Clean Skies, Healthy Forest"-type initiative, only this time

it's the "Democratic Debt" initiative.

[eShirl]

54. he's saying the Democrats will be no different than the Republicans

right?

[BlueEyedSon]

55. 'pub rule 1: accuse your opposition of whatever bad stuff you are doing.

Loudly.

[Iniquitous Bunny]

58. What is that man smoking?

The Republican have been in control for years now. :wtf:

[nolabels]

133. Twelve year olds often play this game of denial

We won't need any high end macro-economists to rummage through policies when this current economy we're living in falls out, just a couple cheap psycho-therapists :shrug:

[mtnester]

60. You know, if I acted like that in my life I would be pink slipped

by the local law enforcement into the loony bin.

For some reason, despite the BRAZILLION jaw dropping moments of this administration...this one caught me off guard as the most bizarre of them all.

My T-shirt that I have on under my dress jacket at work today says (seriously) -

"I did it, but I am blaming YOU" with a picture of a cute little bunny on it giggling. Sounds about right for these unhinged, utter aberrant mental defectives of which Frist is included.

Sad thing is, if no one counters it from our own spineless (at times) party, it WILL end up the Dems fault via default, as SO many things have before.

[SammyWinstonJack]

95. Yes Indeed!

"I did it, but I am blaming YOU!" That should be the slogan for the REPUBLIC PARTY

[TahitiNut]

105. Corollary: "They accomplished it but we're taking credit."

These are people who'd mug a widow then take credit for her recovery in the hospital. They complain that the media isn't reporting the "good news" in Iraq, but journalists are being killed in Iraq, many by U.S. forces (hotel bombardment anyone?), at rates not seen before. Journalists can't leave the Green Zone unaccompanied by armed and armored bodyguards. Rumsfeld can't go to Iraq except in secret. Entire families are given the death penalty due solely to 'suspicion' - of someone in the neighborhood.

But we're assured that the "democratization" of Iraq is the goal du jour. If the Iraqis somehow recover from the invasion and occupation, the Bushoilinis will take credit - all of it. If they don't, the Bushoilinis will blame the Iraqis, the Iranians, and the Democrats - enough to go around.

[SammyWinstonJack]

120. So that would be;

"YOU fixed my mess, but I AM taking credit for it." Perfect! :banghead:

[PegDAC]

195. Happy Bunny? n/t

[mtnester]

211. Yes n/t

[Ioo]

61. B L O G G E D - Thanks!

http://www.speciousreasoning.com/node/1211

[bridgit]

62. Bill Frist is delusional, he IS the senate leader & key to this debacle

no amount of republican bullshit, propaganda & double-speck will save him now :thumbsdown:

[Vinca]

63. Um, excuse me, Senator Cat Killer. Last time I looked

YOU IDIOTS WERE IN CHARGE!

[Chulanowa]

65. ...

Do who to the what now?

Democrats?
$8 trillion debt?
DEMOCRATS?!

What on A Deity of Your Choice's Mixture of yellow and blue prime colors spherical planet third from the sun is he talking about? I have seen no shortage of garbage flying out of the GOP but this... This really does take the case.

At least when they were lying to us about Iraq, they could obfuscate the truth for a little while, but this is... Wow. Blatant!

I've said it many times. I do not mind my government lying to me. It's what they do. It's why we elect them, because they tell us pretty lies. It's all we expect from them. However, I take great offense at being lied to poorly. I pay these people my money so they can come up with deep, convincing, conspiritorial lies, not so they can do this shit.

Republicans are Democrats now, huh, Bill "The cat" Frist?

Fool. ACK THBBBBPT!

[GreenPartyVoter]

67. How in heck does the minority party make all the fiscal decisions?

Nice try, cat-killer. But only the dumbest of the dumb are falling for that one.

[spanone]

69. Frist is building a new house not far from me.

On my way to work each morning I give him the middle finger salute!!!

[stray cat]

70. Aren't the republicans in charge of all branches of government?

SARCASM

[screembloodymurder]

71. We need to attack MSM.

Can they be sued for spreading lies? If not, how do we fight their lies?

[VP505]

72. What we have

here is a clear case of someone talking out his ass, cause his mouth would damm well know better that to say something so unbelievable and stupid.

[hobbit709]

130. It takes a real contortionist

to put your foot in your mouth while you got your head up your ass.

[zbdent]

73. Living beyond our means by trying to pay down the bills?

Boy is that twisted logic . . . at least the Dems are proposing a method for paying the debts . . .

[Historic NY]

74. First its the media for the war, now the Democrats for the

eceonmy.......when its the credit card Republicans who are in charge. Mr. Frist thankfully your gone soon, and perhaps the majority who followed you.

[porphyrian]

76. Hasn't he been indicted yet?

I guess it's just a matter of time.

[Mad_Dem_X]

77. WTF..we're truly living in Bizarro World

How are Dems to blame when the Repukes CONTROL EVERYTHING????

[NJmaverick]

80. This is the projection strategy that Rove perfected

Rove perfected this insidious strategy. You accuse your opponent of your faults, weaknesses and short comings. That way they are on the defensive and unable use your weaknesses against you. In other words you use your weakness against your opponent.

[Orsino]

81. "Don't vote Dem, or they might do what we do."

He knows how stupid his base is.

[Lasher]

82. At times like this I like to haul out one of my favorite graphics

It shows very clearly who is to blame for most of our national debt.

http://ibew.org/legislative/Rev042304-JustFacts.pdf

[Ready4Change]

84. Reps could end the madness, if they controlled the Congress and Senate.

Oh wait. They DO!

[Memory Container]

145. If only! Damn those Democrats!

I mean... really, If they didn't have dominion over all branches and the media, then we would know about their recklessness and be able to stop the tyranny of their majority!
Bloodyhell.

[SammyWinstonJack]

86. He is just flat out LYING! They are all LIARS! They have put us

into debt, they deserve ALL the blame! When exactly have the CONS tried to restrain spending? :spank: What spending bill has Pinhead** vetoed? He goes to Congress with hat in hand begging for money and the Republic Congress gives it to him.

[0007]

108. Even your cute doggie knows that, 'eh?

[SammyWinstonJack]

121. Yes she does.

:evilgrin:

[mwb970]

87. What was the context?

Was there any verbiage before or after the given quote where he might give some hint as to the basis for this statement? As everyone has pointed out, it seems ridiculous on its face inasmuch as all national spending decisions for many years have been made by Republicans.

I wonder whether elsewhere in the letter he mentions any accomplishments of the current Congress. If so, I suspect he gives the Republicans credit for those.

[ClintonTyree]

88. How divorced from reality can these idiots be?

The jaw-dropping ignorance of this remark astounds me. :wtf: There are two possibilities here: either Frist actually believes this or he's lying out of his ass. Either one should disqualify him from holding office, ANY office! :wow:

bush and his slimy sycophants in Congress keep lowering taxes, running up the national debt, insist on continuing a war without end spending upward of $300 million a day to support it, give REBATES to oil companies that are gouging the hell out of us and enjoying record profits every quarter, repeal every environmental law on the books to please their corporate masters, cut social programs to the bare bone, control EVERY branch of government...........and this is somehow the Democrat's fault?

Frist is as fucking crazy as a shit-house rat! His fundy brain is officially fried. Reality is no longer a part of Frist's daily regimen. Who listens to and believes shit like this? What the fuck is wrong with people? I can't believe this, I CANNOT fucking believe this! :silly:

I wish there was some alien life form that would come to earth and dissect Mr. Frist the way he "experimented" on cats in his apartment during his obviously failed med school education. This man is insane! :grr:

[DinahMoeHum]

89. More projection from a Repuke asshole.

n/t

[SammyWinstonJack]

97. Yea, imagine that?

:rofl:

[Canuckistanian]

90. Whew! Good thing those Democrats aren't in charge here

Or else the economy would be in bad shape!

Trent Lott was right about Frist
:crazy:

[tanyev]

91. "If only the Democrats would filibuster all of our spending bills,

THEN we wouldn't be $8 trillion dollars in debt! Waahhh!" :cry:

[sinkingfeeling]

96. Dear Bill, Why hasn't your staunchly conservative president ever

used the veto against all these spending bills? And how come, you always vote for the president's budgets and requests for military funding?

[chelsea0011]

99. Just how much more in control do they need to take responsibility?

This is too funny. They run everything and can't do anything.

[madinmaryland]

100. But don't you remember, its all Clinton's fault!!! n/t

[mattclearing]

101. You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Who just voted to keep the debt limit down?

Who balanced the budget in the 90's?

Who blew the budget?

Fuck Bill Frist. I hope this pisses off Dems everywhere.

[4_TN_TITANS]

102. Makes me ashamed to be a Tennessean...

someone would have to be equivalent to a zombie to believe such a ridiculous statement.

[Epiphany4z]

103. I am sorry but...

who is in control the senate and the house? Who is in the presidents office? Who has the court stacked? ...And we still manage to run ruff s hot over them and run up the dept..hahahaha ..to efin funny ...well if they cant manage to keep Dem's from spending when they control everything what good are they?

The whole thing is just retarded...my apologies to retards..but Jeeze Laaaweeez!! They blame Dem's when Dem's are in control and they blame them when when Repub's control everything are they ever responsible for anything? PHHUUULLLEEESSSE

[savemefromdumbya]

104. What happened to FRIST's hospital STOCK sales?

Now, with the revelation that federal prosecutors and the Securities and Exchange Commission are looking into Frist's sale of hospital stock shortly before its value fell,

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/24/AR2005092401379.html

[cyberpj]

110. I've been wondering that for quite a while now. Not a peep from media

when he appears on TV - usually they would use any appearance as a chance to bring up problems associated with the personality -- guess that only applies to Dems now in the New World Order.

[savemefromdumbya]

111. Is he trying for Prez in 08 maybe that's why the media has gone quiet

perhaps some TV ads asking about the stock sales - they put poor Martha in jail so they can do the same to Frist.

[Wisconsin Larry]

123. This has been an awfully long investigation

It would appear that it is being shelved since the SEC wouldn't even acknowledge that it is investigating.

The latest news item I could find is a March 10 article from http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/midsouth_news/article/0,1426,MCA_1497_4529420,00.html

"The Securities and Exchange Commission is investigating his sale of stock in the for-profit hospital company his father founded. Frist's decision to sell off stock in Columbia/HCA came suspiciously close to the time the stock price dropped."

(snip)

"An SEC spokesman noted that the commission has never acknowledged an investigation is under way, although Frist's office has said it has been cooperating with its requests for documents."

[savemefromdumbya]

125. Shouldn't someone be asking for this?

[Wisconsin Larry]

136. One would think so but with all the

damage this crew is doing, e.g., the war, the economy, the environment, civil liberties, to name just a few and the massive corruption, i.e. America for sale, it is hard to keep their feet to the fire on all fronts. Hopefully, during the Repug primaries, their dirty tricks crews will destroy one another.

[zanne]

106. I hope he keeps it up.

Rhetoric like this is what's bringing them down in the polls. The Dems in congress won't bring the Republicans down--the Republicans will bring the Republicans down.

[Wisconsin Larry]

107. Today's Cartoon from The Hill makes it clear

[BrklynLiberal]

109. Another superb example of how stupid these people think the voters are.

[redqueen]

112. How can anyone consider the GOP the party of personal responsiblity?

They're the ones running the show, not us.

If any of their followers believe this crap they should really have their head examined.

[Jim__]

115. Republicans are just impotent.

They hold the presidency, house sentate and supreme court; but the democrats have all the power. Whine on frist!

[sakabatou]

116. Fingerpointing at best

[truebrit71]

118. He has obviously lost his m/f mind...

I'm sorry Dr Cat-Killer, but who has been in control of all three branches of government lately?

Mucking Foron...:eyes:

[Marie26]

119. They're getting desperate. nt

[IronLionZion]

122. it is the Dems' fault

The Dems didn't fight to stop the Republicans. Dems didn't hang together so we'll all hang separately. It's the Dems' fault for letting us get bullied by "national security" issues when the Republicans are not securing our nation.

It's also Clinton's fault for getting a blow job, which helped put Bush in office.

It's also Carter's fault for only using only 9 helicopters in Desert One (Iran hostage crisis) instead of 18, which put Reagan in office.

And it's FDR's fault for not passing universal health insurance and pension reform as part of the new deal.

[Imalittleteapot]

124. Holy shite. The Opposite party man speaks.

These guys don't let up. We may be the opposition party, but they are the OPPOSITE PARTY. Whatever they say, believe the opposite.

[Kare]

126. If there was any doubt left

it has been wiped away...

Repukes have no shame.

:mad: :grr: :mad: :grr: :mad: :grr:

[Norquist Nemesis]

127. Absolute proof the man's insane and dillusional n/t

[C_U_L8R]

128. These republican clowns

can't take responsibility for ANYTHING.

With the republicans.. the buck stops anywhere
as long as it's not with them. What a bunch of goobers.

[daveskilt]

129. bill clintons penis did it!

[Cats Against Frist]

131. Here's how they're going to make that claim stick with the freetards

and keep cognitive dissonance alive.

I've read on FR, several times about RINOS, and their fear and loathing for them. The key to keeping the freepers in line lies with the idea that they believe that the Dems, coupled with the RINOs actually control the House and Senate. That's their "official" delusion. Of course, this doesn't explain why "dear leader" can't just veto this HORRIBLE "democrat" spending. Neither does it explain Bush would have any fear in vetoing, if the puke Congress is so "dedicated" to lowering spending -- surely the handful of RINOS and Dems can't get a 2/3 majority, in a Republican House/Senate "so dedicated" to bringing down the debt and the deficit.

They're just fucking liars, and their constituency is a bunch of zombies.

The second part is that a LARGE part of their party ARE willing to trade smaller government and a smaller welfare state to win the culture war. I was just reading a rationalization of this, the other day, on FR, by a socialist-christo-fascist (in my opinion, far more dangerous than real conservtives). You'll hear no complaints on spending to increase the power of the Fed, attack the brown heathens, and fund Christian programs for everyone.

This is how the GOP can get away with saying such outrageous things.

[DarleenMB]

132. Did I fall down the rabbit hole?

WTF???? I mean really! WTF???

I simply cannot wrap my mind around this one. Seriously. Have I had some sort of breakdown?

Pretzel logic always does that to me. Pass the beer.

[KansDem]

134. Hundreds of cats in kitty-heaven are smiling today!

Their killer continues to dig his hole deeper.

[abester]

137. I hate to say this, but Frist is right

in a republican kind of way. American economy is stagnant, exports are dwindling, and energy costs are soaring - with or without Iraq -, costs of medical care booming.

The rebuplican solution apparantly was to hijack public sentiment to support a war against two sovereign nations, seize political and millitary control of their oil fields, and hope for a miracle.

In not supporting this, in his view, democrats are actually harming the economy on the long run.

[SammyWinstonJack]

152. !

:crazy:

[newspeak]

209. so the "moral" republicans

believed they could just LIE, STEAL and MURDER to get the ole economy moving? Yep, some great plan for those who scream of being the holy of holies!!!! yessirreeeee! I think that black book that they're always raising into the air and beating their chest with, actually says something about stealing, murdering and lying. Dear Goddess, will someone take the keys from these sociopaths who have been in charge of the asylum for too, too long? I don't know whether to believe that they believe their own lies or they know they're intentionally lying to us.

[Der Blaue Engel]

138. Ah, I see: we're the new Satan

"The Democrat made me do it!" It's the Almighty Clenis, of course. (Makes you want to pay money to see that thing...must be a helluva specimen to be so all powerful.)

:eyes:

Infantile, pathetic fucks. New meme: "Republic" Party, the party of the Blame Game!

[madmark]

139. give me a fucking break; reps in control of executive and legistlative

branches for last 6 years and the dems created the deficit?

[progressoid]

140. Translation: blow jobs in the white house ruined amurica.

[Mr_Spock]

141. THEY HAVE HAD THE PURSE STRINGS FOR YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the FUCK is WRONG with republicans???

WHY WHY WHY can't they lead!!!!

[Patchuli]

143. One problem with that, Catkiller

The rethugs have the purse in their greedy sweaty mitts so how in the fock do you arrive at that bonehead conclusion?! DOH!! And this moron wants to be a pResident too? eee gads!

[singe]

146. just one question for bill last

is ms. schiavo up and about yet bill? did the p.t. Rx you wrote for her get her back to a normal life? will you be practicing medicine when you leave the senate because if so the presidunce needs a good sturgeon to get his head out of his ass, he can be heard to mumble from way up around the transverse colon..."something smells fish up here!'.

[Patsy Stone]

148. That would be the same Democrats

Who haven't been in power in Congress since 1996?
The same ones whose president left a huge budget surplus?
The same ones forced to meet in backrooms and basements?

Or are there some others who these lawmakers actually listen to and whose budget polices they've chosen to adopt?

Yeah, Bill. Nice try, buddy.

[wake.up.america]

150. Please help me. How does he attempt to explain this???

I could say Kerry started the war in Iraq and walk away.

[Rose Siding]

153. Well, it's quite insane but he's referencing a Specter *(R)* amendment

to add 7B to health, education and labor programs gutted by the repub budget, which dems supported.

Of course, Frist completely ignores Republican waste, irresponsible tax cuts for millionaires and outlandish military spending.

[mod mom]

151. INSANITY! Sent this one to KO.

[JohnnyLib]

154. Compassionate Conservative version

"Our Father, who art in Heaven,
It's their fault."

[ProfessorPlum]

155. Democrat -IC! IC! IC! It's DemocratIC alternative, you quack

Democrat is not an adjective.

Boy, I hate that.

[melissinha]

156. Excuse me?

Rachel Maddow warned us about this..... that they woudl blame us for their failures...


WE just need to repeat the mantra, "Who holds the pursestrings here?" and "Would you rather spend on the American people, or to fix things they purposefully broke in Iraq?" "Who is spending money we don't have?"

[BREMPRO]

160. so disconnected from reality...

that he believes the truth is whatever his supporters should hear to support and elect him.

This guy is the ultimate scumbag.. health care privitizing insider trader profiteer.. political oportunist with schivo case... american taliban suckup...corporate slave..false profit.. paste-on goody goody smile

what is up with American's and the media that he can get away with this ridiculous cliche that has no basis in reality, without question?

[JHB]

161. Lying Bastard Senior Republican Officials make Baby Jesus Cry

[demswin06]

163. what planet is this guy from...

certianly it isn't from the planet reality. What an asshole.:wtf:

[flyarm]

167. this nasty rat won't bite!!...people are awakening to the bullshit

except those who want theocracy and fascism!

fly

[Horse with no Name]

168. Typical Newspeak

Welcome to Ingsoc...and the method of reality control called doublethink which is the power to hold two completely contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accept both of them.
Maybe we can rename is "Republithink".

[politicaholic]

169. Oh, fantastic, another Republican liar bidding for the white house....

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't take it! I just can't take it! It has now become painful!!

[DUHandle]

171. Republican spending hawks warn their colleagues that conservative activist

yea, right

[Brazenly Liberal]

172. I want some of what he's smoking

ppptthhhhhhhhhhtttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!

[MissB]

173. He really shouldn't try comedy.

It doesn't work well for him.

[Ganja Ninja]

174. Obviously he has to know better than that.

This Republican President and this Republican Congress have added more debt than all the others combined and he knows it. Ergo, he's a bald faced liar and a con-man and not a very good one at that.

[1620rock]

178. Is he on CRACK?????

[CATagious]

175. here's a good article with a graph...

http://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm

Since 1938 the Democrats have held the White house for 35 years, the Republicans for 33. Over that time the national debt has increased at an average annual rate of 8.7%. The Democratic yearly average (that is the years Democrats were in the White House) was an increase of 8.3%. The years while the Republicans ran the White House, during this same period; the debt increased an average 9.3% per year. Those averages are pretty close.



If you look at the debt starting with Truman’s term (and remove Roosevelt’s WWII debt) the difference between the two parties contributions to our national debt level change considerably. Since 1946 the Democratic Presidents increased the national debt an average of only 3.7% per year when they were in office. The Republican Presidents stay at an average increase of 9.3% per year. Over the last 59 years Republican Presidents have out borrowed Democratic Presidents by almost a three to one ratio. That is, for every dollar a Democratic President has raised the national debt in the past 59 years Republican Presidents have raised the debt by $2.87.

[Selteri]

176. Wow, can I have some of that electric Lemonade Dr. Frist?

I need to be able to see the world the way you can and I suspect without perscpriotion electric lemonade I will be unable to bend my perceptions of reality sufficiently to be able to grasp what the hell you are seeing when it has been Repulican control for every year and Clinton left with a positive balance on hte books.

[LittleClarkie]

180. And another thing

Bush has yet to use his veto.

How can Frist say this stuff with a straight face? His glorious leader spends like a drunken sailor on leave!

[sellitman]

183. Run Frist...RUN!!!!!

<salivating at the thought>

[moondust]

185. No lie too big.

Proud winner of the "Whopper of the Month" award.

[cboy4]

186. Can you say desperate??

WOW

[BrightKnight]

187. He's spitting into the wind- n/t

[pa28]

188. Dear Frist: Maybe this simple chart will help you.

http://zfacts.com/p/480.html

[Maestro]

191. Good Chart!

Too bad the dipshit won't understand it.

[Zambero]

189. Actually it's Clinton's fault, pure and simple

First off, when in doubt blame Clinton. For everything.

Second, the Clinton era saw budget surpluses. He did that on purpose, just to make Republicans look bad. Shame on him!

Finally, Clinton's tax policy didn't favor the super rich. If he had only been kind enough to pad their pockets like Bush43 has, the he (Clinton) too would have had runaway deficits, just like Reagan-Bush41 before him. But he didn't, and frugal conservatives are now made to look bad. If not for Clinton's deliberate fiscal policies, today's Republicans would not have so much explaining to do.

[DemGirl7]

190. Now that is funny...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: that is all.

[MODemocrat]

192. I believe Frist has totally lost his mind

Ever since he diagnosed Mrs. Shiavo by watching a tape, I've been thinking how crazy he must be. The republicans own this mess, period. :boring: :thumbsdown:

[PegDAC]

193. I often wonder

what color the sky is in Rightwing World!
:eyes: :wtf: :eyes: :wtf: :eyes: :wtf:

[tlsmith1963]

197. Oh, Give It Up!

It's like a broken record, Frist. You *know* that your side has spent a lot more on that war than we ever could, & yet you still blame us for the deficit. I would be angry, but I'm beginning to feel only pity for these people. They are so incredibly delusional, & they can't even see it. It wouldn't be so bad if these clueless morons weren't running the country. I don't think they should be running things. I think they all need mental-help at "Fascists-'r'-Us".

Tammy

[WinkyDink]

198. OMG!!! That's it. I've had it. time for DEMS to just LIE, LIE, LIE.

Oh, wait. All We need do is TELL the TRUTH.

WHO will join RUSS??????

[Clarkie1]

200. War is Peace. Up is Down. Left is Right. White is Black. n/t

[Pryderi]

201. He's counting on the stupidity of his constituents.

[sheelz]

202. What's wrong Frist?

Is the national debt agony to your hired day traders?

[tom_paine]

203. That kind of shameless Orwellian lying is a sure sign of Totalitarianism

of cancer of the Body Politic.

I am not opposed to Old American-style politicking, which involves plenty of stretching and falsifying, but this is just so...Soviet.

We have trult reached another level here in the Empire.

[PBass]

204. cue Tom Toles

By the way, if the Dems can field 'deficit hawk' candidates, they could win big on this issue at the polls.

[Name removed]

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[Albert Cirrus]

206. These people

These people will say anything.

[Nutmegger]

207. But the Dems are in the minority

They don't even have subpoena power!

Poor kitties.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

208. Yeh it's crazy how those Dems spend when they're in control of- never mind

[TomChicago]

210. Frist

Many will believe him, if he repeats it often enough.