Texas arresting people in bars for being drunk!

[Avalux]

Apparently the police think this is within the bounds of public intoxication, but if a bar is privately owned, how can people be arrested for public intoxication? And how can you arrest someone for what they MAY do? What's next - people's homes?


Updated: 7:12 p.m. ET March 22, 2006

SAN ANTONIO, Texas - Texas has begun sending undercover agents into bars to arrest drinkers for being drunk, a spokeswoman for the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission said on Wednesday.

The first sting operation was conducted recently in a Dallas suburb where agents infiltrated 36 bars and arrested 30 people for public intoxication, said the commission’s Carolyn Beck.

Being in a bar does not exempt one from the state laws against public drunkenness, Beck said.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2006-03-23T150137Z_01_N22388344_RTRUKOC_0_US-BARS1.xml

[sam sarrha]

1. i really dont want to be around a drunk ...anywhere

[Beelzebud]

5. Then don't go to bars........

Why should the fact that you don't want to be around drunk people legitamize this? If you don't want to be around drunks, don't go to a bar!

[sam sarrha]

16. i dont go to bars, but there are places that have a bar and a place that

serves food. like pizza parlors, the article wasn't specific, not all bars are seedy.. was this article written with a bias to incite an emotional response to a ligament resolution of a real problem.. ??

drunks are dangerous.. i have a lot of personal experience to draw from when i make that statement.

i simply stated i dont like drunks.. they are annoying and dangerous.. i dont go to 'public' taverns simply for that reason.. if i knew they were free of 'out of control' people i would probably have a social life. i was a parole officer.. I have no tolerance for bullshit, sorry

it was a simple statement, you read way too much into this, like the other guy hallucinating me wearing jack boots..

yes it MAY be a good idea,.. out of control is out of control.. does Alcohol legitimize self and socially destructive and dangerous behavior.. what percentage of these people are driving home..

if there is a law that states drunkenness in a Public place is a crime ..Change the F'n law.. it is the law.

addiction is a behavior that although you know it will kill you or someone else on the highway the next time you do it, you will do it anyway.

alcoholism and tobacco illness is why we dont have Universal Health care.. the government considers Universal Health care to simply be a subsidy of Corporate addictive substance peddlers.


you get the same crap from the tobacco laws, tavern and restaurant attendance went up in El Paso 35 % when people couldn't smoke and expose others to dangerous lethal carcinogens

[converted_democrat]

8. So, you're accepting the jack boots with open arms? n/t

[sam sarrha]

12. Did i say that..??!!! i simply said i don't like drunks, i dont like people

like you either.. Belligerent people that jump to conclusions like you are the worst kind of drunk..

Denial is a bitch ...

maybe it is a popular movenent.. who knows

[converted_democrat]

14. The whole article is about people being arrested for being drunk in a

bar for Christ's sake.. Your "comment" was that you didn't like drunks.. What's a person supposed to infer from that? You don't comment about the nazification of America, and you state you don't like drunks.. There are people on here all the time advocating for loss of freedoms due to their "pet causes" so it's hardly a stretch..

on edit- I have little love for people that worry more about their own personal likes and dislikes than they do about personal freedoms in this country.. You didn't even address the issue, you just posted your own preferences, showing where your priorities lie..

[sam sarrha]

18. Change the F'n law.. amend the "Public" aspect.. it is ok to be drunk in a

public place inside 4 wall with an entrance and an exit..

that is it Issue.. changing the law. not being arrested violating the law. i am being deliberately literal here because it involves an established law..

we dont know if the Chamber of Commerce had legitimate problem, they requested the police to enforce..

you cant trust the media to objective here, this is just too Hot a topic. they could be blowing this out of proportion.. and emotionalizing it to get readership.

drunkenness is a problem, the police didn't necessarily just pull this out of their ass and go hassle people. would would feel the same way about a round up of crack whores from in front of your house or your your children's school.. you like that law. maybe the buisness people got together and figured out if they could get rid of the F'n drunk asshole that wont go away, their customers might come back.

lets call Paul Harvey for the Rest Of the Story

[converted_democrat]

22. What a crock of bull..

"we dont know if the Chamber of Commerce had legitimate problem, they requested the police to enforce.."

Right.. Ever been a Chamber member? The last thing they are going to do discourage any legal commerce.. One of the bars that were raided was in a hotel.. No way would the Chamber get involved in something like this.. They might go after meth dens, or crack houses that discourage tourism, but the last thing they would do is go after something like this.. Not to mention the fact that many bar owners are Chamber members.. Why would the Chamber cut its own throat? That's about the most ridiculous argument I've heard in awhile.. The first time this story was reported was the first few days of March, if there was a "rest of the story" we would have heard it by now..

[Beelzebud]

2. Doesn't Texas have entrapment laws to prevent this crap?

Thanks Nanny-Staters.

[SteppingRazor]

3. Oh, for GOD'S SAKE!

Enough already! Where does this dumb-shit insanity end?

[havocmom]

4. Dupe thread

We have one going here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x732609

Come on by, it's fun ;)

[Texasgal]

6. I wonder how many times this topic is

going to posted on DU. :eyes:

[Avalux]

7. Sorry - you'd think I'd know better, lol.

:hi:

[madinmaryland]

21. Probably as many times as the brazilian joke

:shrug:

[liberalnurse]

9. I'd say....

It's not good for business if you are a bar owner.

[nascar55]

10. the post I started yesterday on this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x723445

[sam sarrha]

20. that link didnt go anywhere for me

[Trillo]

11. Private versus public

is exactly the point I made in LBN yesterday.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2182897

[AndyA]

13. How long do you suppose it will be before

the Bush sluts whores tramps Twins get arrested? :rofl:

Bars are their favorite hangout!

[Justitia]

15. Well, there goes our state legislature!! -eom

[zbdent]

17. This will continue until

the Bush twins are picked up . . . then it will suddenly cease . . .

[Poll_Blind]

19. Thank you ZB! I was thinking the same thing. Then all the 'pubbies....

...will come out against it, tearfully using the innocent, quiver-lipped faces of Barbara and Jenna to pluck our heart's strings.

Two white girls in trouble, and they aren't even in a foreign country!

PB