ABC NEWS EXEC: 'BUSH MAKES ME SICK'; E-MAIL REVEALED

[kpete]

Illegal NSA email intercepts? How did Drudge get this?

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU MARCH 23, 2006 13:11:09 ET XXXXX

ABC NEWS EXEC: 'BUSH MAKES ME SICK'; E-MAIL REVEALED

**Exclusive**



A top producer at ABC NEWS declared "Bush makes me sick" in an email obtained by the DRUDGE REPORT.

John Green, currently executive producer of the weekend edition of GOOD MORNING AMERICA, unloaded on the president in an ABC company email obtained by the DRUDGE REPORT.

"If he uses the 'mixed messages' line one more time, I'm going to puke," Green complained.

The blunt comments by Green, along with other emails obtained by the DRUDGE REPORT, further reveal the inner workings of the nation's news outlets.

A friend of Green's at ABC says Green is mortified by the email. "John feels so badly about this email. He is a straight shooter and great producer who is always fair. That said, he deeply regrets the sentiment expressed in the email and the embarrassment it causes ABC News."

Developing...

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

1. too bad its never said on air...n/t

[MadMaddie]

3. How soon before he gets fired? Did the NSA intercept this message?

[TomInTib]

11. Fired? I think they will just behead him at his desk and put it on our

"TV Screen".

"Let this be a lesson for any Infidels in the News Media who dare disparage the Fearless Threat Seer".

[WiseButAngrySara]

63. If this e-mail is ONE AND 1/2 YEARS OLD, Rove has to be involved.

Why was it just discovered and NOW being discussed, if they had intercepted it more than a year ago? This is simply part of the Media Blast Blitz right now, as it remains their only defense against truth. B* would be impeached and in jail if the truth were told. Green is being Dan Rathered and Swiftboated, IMO.

See post #39 by Justitia below.

[pacalo]

77. I agree.

I also wonder if there's eavesdropping & invasion into private e-mail accounts going on to serve this administration's dirty politics. This is exactly why I'm with Feingold about holding this administration accountable on NSA spying. The NSA could be Rove's candy store.

[Burried News]

78. Nice catch. I believe you are correct. ABC's getting Roved. nt

[mirandapriestly]

82. Oh yeah, of course..

he must have wanted someone new in the spot

[oasis]

89. Yes, it all fits into the current WH "media vs. Bush" blitz. (eom)

[KittyWampus]

100. Timing certainly fits with the "It's The Media's Fault" message being

drilled into the public airwaves starting on cue yesterday.

[cantstandbush]

97. Write, write, write. Duers, we need to help him out. Bush makes us all

sick!!!

I guess the illegal spying has paid off. The rest of the media should hammer Drudge for this. It breaks all code of ethics for those in the media.

[adigal]

124. How DID they get this email???

THAT might be the real story here. Hubris takes them down every time.

Karl??? Karl??? Are you listening??? You are on the way out!

[WI_DEM]

2. So are they going to make this guy resign now?

Somebody stabbed him in the back and forwarded that on to Drudge.

[0rganism]

13. Interesting that it'll be Green taking the fall for this...

...rather than the jackoff who exposed what's probably an internal ABC communication to the Drudge report.

[wakeme2008]

4. Note to Green

know the person you are sending emails too before you send them...

[jim3775]

5. Oh great, this will be used as an excuse to clean house at ABC and

hire a bunch of wingnuts.

[mod mom]

6. They need leverage over the media, so it wouldn't surprise me. ABC should

attempt to trace how the leak was made.

BTW Mr. Green, he makes me sick too!

[RevolutionStartsNow]

7. I understand why news producers should be unbiased

but how is that at all realistic? The truth is that Bush makes a lot of people sick.
(Except maybe the Fox news producers.)

I'd rather know a particular news organization's bias than have them pretend to be "fair and balanced."

[Leopolds Ghost]

8. LEOPOLDS GHOST: DRUDGE "E-MAIL INTERCEPT" reproducible on MSWORD

Anything NSA can come up with, we can Swift Boat. C'mon people!

[htuttle]

20. The fonts are all wrong!

[MarmiteVarmint]

106. If that's true . . .

...then I expect the sender and receiver should have something to say about it. They surely would not let something as slanderous as a falsely made text message stand.

And I'd also expect ABC to sue because this is the kind of public message that will hurt their business.

[0rganism]

9. "further reveal the inner workings of the nation's news outlets?"

What fresh hell is this? Oh wait, must be the recycled hell of the "liebrul media" again, you know, ABC, the outfit that syndicates Rush Limbaugh.

So, how did Drudge get ahold of that e-mail? I think THAT story would reveal quite a bit more about the news outlet's "inner workings" than Green's mortification at its contents.

[KittyWampus]

102. We could potentially make this spin AGAINST Rove/Drudge by demanding

to know how this email go out! Was it via internet spying? Is THIS what Bush is using his illegal wiretapping for?

[quiet.american]

10. Bush says he "loves" democracy, so he should welcome these remarks. n/t

[MADem]

12. Yeah, it is DEVELOPING, all right. Am I the only one who sees a

creepily coordinated effort to COW THE BOLD PRESS, yet again? See, they stopped being mindless stenographers as Nitwit's poll numbers fell, and they HAVE to be put in their place.

It started with that PLANTED question in West Virginia yesterday...and it continues with this Drudge bullshit today.

I smell ROVESTINK all over this!

[lpbk2713]

21. Agreed

Expect anything

[glitch]

No you are not the only one who smells Rove's stench. I think we all do,

even the corporate media. Their game is so obvious, tired and old.
My fear is what they'll do when they see their propaganda no longer working, because they cannot go anywhere. Even Gonzales admits they could be tried for war crimes under another administration, and there is no statute of limitations on those.

[riona]

29. yup

[maxrandb]

65. Did anyone point out that it's from 2004!!!!!

Timing seems a bit "fishy".

[ohiosmith]

68. yes

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=735372&mesg_id=735709

[Imagevision]

104. 2004? Bush has made people want to puke from day one...!

Bush and his cronies make the mafia look like child's play!

[Scout1071]

118. I agree completely. They are trying to "CBS" all over again.

Feck them.

[Marr]

14. I'm sorry- I didn't realize it was illegal to dislike Bush.

Fascist much?

[ohiosmith]

15. Grow a spine Green. How about saying "You're damn right I said it,

I meant it, kiss my ass.".

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

22. Funny. I'd love to see you do that with your career on the line.

[ohiosmith]

28. I did. After nearly 20 years with the firm. Got fired. Got an attorney.

Got 2 years severance and a letter of recommendation.

To quote Tony Montana "All I got are my word and my balls, I don't break them for nobody.".

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

30. Good for you

That's fantastic that you did it.

However, I certainly don't consider anyone with a desire to keep his or her career as "spineless". Maybe it was or maybe it wasn't the case with you, but for him, that would be career suicide, not just job suicide.

[ohiosmith]

35. I would rather lose a career than my self respect by not standing up for

my beliefs.

[pacalo]

81. How long is your resume?

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

[ohiosmith]

113. 36 pages. Actually, two. Six employers in three industry sectors in

in 40 years.

[pacalo]

125. I love spunk.

:toast:

[Zhade]

56. It's also conscience-suicide to repudiate a belief you still firmly hold.

I'd like to hope I'd be braver than Green, in similar circumstances.

Jobs, even careers, come and go. Lying to yourself lasts forever.

[ohiosmith]

58. Amen brother!

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

61. You don't have to repudiate the belief to save face.

You can apologize for language or you can say you shouldn't have said that using company equipment.

Believe it or not, not everything has to be in your face to be effective or principled.

[ohiosmith]

66. One does not apologize for expressing one's beliefs unless one's

character is flawed.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

79. Ever heard of "professionalism"?

[ohiosmith]

84. As a matter of fact I have. And that has what to do with standing up

for what one believes?

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

85. Professionalism means there are proper times and places to say things.

And none of that has anything to do with whether or not you stand up for your beliefs.

[ohiosmith]

90. Professionalism means there are proper times and places to say things.

As dictated by whom? I'll decide where and when to state my opinions. And accept the consequences.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

127. You do that, but don't call it professional.

[SOS]

101. In what way was Mr. Green "unprofessional"?

:shrug:

[Zhade]

99. You might have an argument with regards to the "company equipment" angle.

But since my own mother once faced a similar situation, and it indeed cost her her career, I'm a bit testy when it comes to people thinking others should just ignore their conscience in order to save face.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

126. It's one thing if you're going about your own business...

...and something just happens to come up that the company disagrees with you on. Sure you stand up for yourself and your principles.

This is different. First of all, as a journalist, you're SUPPOSED to at least present yourself and your institution as unbiased. We all know that doesn't work in the real world, but that's the professional ideal your supposed to at least appear to maintain. He failed on that point when it got released to the public. Secondly, he was using company equipment to violate that standard of integrity. Right there, ABC would be well within their rights to fire him. And notice how neither of those two problems take into account what the actual message said - if it said "Hillary is a bitch" instead, these two rules would still apply (and just about every person on this board flaming me would instead be calling for this guy's head AND agreeing with me in full, but ya know, that's irrelevant). Further, you can apologize for those two things WITHOUT repudiating the actual message. He doesn't have to say the President didn't want to make him puke to say that he's sorry for lack of judgement and carelessness. How many times do we bash Bush for half-hearted non-apologies like that?

So again, it does not lack courage in ANY way to do the right thing here, nor does one have to back away from their principles to do so.

[Iowa]

122. Pfft... that line would meet the criteria for spinelessness, IMO...

I suppose there is a time for mealy-mouthed cringing and saving face, but plain-speaking integrity usually wins. I frequently find myself applauding those who bluntly speak what's on their mind - but I cannot recall the last time I applauded a skilled face saver.

One thing is certain: Being "stand-up" is not a game for sissies.

[AnneD]

69. I think we can make you

a REAL Texan.....I have had a few moments like that. I never regretted standing up for what I believed in. It generally works out for the best when you take a stand.
I call them moral pop quizes; no right or wrong answer, but it tells you a lot about yourself. Loved the quote.

[ohiosmith]

73. Thank you. I am constantly amazed by people who are willing

to compromise their beliefs rather than face the consequences of their in/actions.

[AnneD]

128. One of the lessons I took for the Holocaust....

is that standing up for what you believe is a moral imperative. In most other countries, Jews were handed over to the Nazis, thus a high death rate. In Denmark, when the Nazis first tried to single out the Jews by having them were the yellow stars-every one, from the King down wore yellow stars. Danish Jews survived in higher numbers because the Danes stood up for their beliefs. To not stand up is to give tacit permission.

[EFerrari]

74. Will you run the Democratic Party please?

lol

:)

[ohiosmith]

80. When can I start?

[EFerrari]

88. Today. And in Ohio! We need you desperately.

:toast:

[ohiosmith]

92. Un/fortunately for Ohio I live in Las Vegas.

[EFerrari]

93. Hmmmmmmmmmm. Okay. We need you in Las Vegas, too.

Let the Party come to you.

lol

[Zhade]

55. Indeed.

Still has freedom of speech, right?

[glitch]

16. They aren't going to leave on their own. On the upside, it's encouraging

they feel they can get what they need with propaganda still.
When they feel that's no longer working, watch out.

[napi21]

17. I don't care if he said that! I really do question WHY people

are so stupid to document this kind of stuff!

MANY, MANY years ago, I learned you can SAY almost anything and get away with it, but NEVER, NEVER write it down!

You can always deny words, but once it's in print, you're done! Today's emails, blackberry's etc, are no different than the old sending somebody a note!

BTW, I'm sure there are lots of things said in news rooms and elsewhere that would curl Drudge's non-existant hair! Most of them are smart enough to keep it inside the room.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

32. Excellent point

[Iowa]

123. Integrity matters...

"...you can SAY almost anything and get away with it, but NEVER, NEVER write it down! You can always deny words, but once it's in print, you're done!

Nah... when it comes to being "stand-up" - write it or say it - there's no difference. And if I say it, I don't deny I said it. No frikin' way I'm allowing myself to be reduced to a cringing liar for anyone. It ain't gonna happen. On the other hand, I'll never live in a mansion or end up on top of the heap. We all make our choices.

[DearAbby]

18. What? Is that a hint of dissent via the Media??

Call the Gestapo! This can not be allowed to continue!

God shines on the boy king...dontchaknow

[underpants]

19. No it is justification for their talking point on the media and Iraq

right on time. How convenient.

[AndyA]

23. Have to start watching ABC more often!

No doubt Green knows he outed his E-mail. Unless...it WAS intercepted under the guise of monitoring terrorist communications, and was leaked to the press through that manner...

At first, I would have to say that would be impossible, but these days I'm not sure...

[Not Me]

24. I work for a public agency, hence our email is subject to sunshine laws

So I have learned to be very careful.

BUT, wouldn't it be great if his response was "Yeah, he DOES make me sick!"

[Ganja Ninja]

25. Too bad everybody isn't a dedicated bushbot like the ...

fair and balanced folks at FOX news. Who remembers the comments from Sean Hannity "God I hate these people! You have know idea." He managed to keep his job so I don't see why Mr. Green should lose his.

[The Stranger]

26. Remember, remember the Fifth of November . . .

[MadMaddie]

33. Yes...Remember...Remember the Fifth of November...

I am going to go see the movie again!!

[QuettaKid]

45. November 5th.

You got that right.

[Syn_Ack]

27. I always wonder

How drudge keeps getting the info he does.

[AnneD]

71. I know many suspected

Guckert/Gannon was the 'deep' source for Drudge. Maybe someone in the WH has a new boy toy.

[Fridays Child]

31. Just sent him a note of encouragement. Are other DUers doing the same?

Mr. Green:

Don't you dare go on the defensive. This is America. Each of us is entitled to express our opinions. And, regardless of your opinions, history shows that you know how to separate them from the work you do.

The real question is who leaked your personal communications to the media. Get mad about that!

Regards,
xxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxx, xx

[Catrina]

41. Excellent letter. I'm writing to him also and I hope he gets lots of

supportive emails.

Dear Mr. Green,

The worst thing you can do is to apologize for your email. You have lots of company, at least two thirds of this country and most of the world. Demand to know who gave your private email to Drudge and please publish the name of the recipient which Drudge blacked out.

It seems you and probably most of the press have been illegally under surveillance. Write to Russ Feingold, make a FOIA request to find out who was spying on you. Get angry, not apologetic. They'll try to fire you no matter how much you apologize, they have no right to do so based on illegally acquired personal information. Fight, and then sue if they fire you.

Watch what happens when you stand up to them the way the Dixie Chicks did, eg. You'll be a hero for telling the truth and for demanding that this illegal spying on Americans is revealed.

Sincerely,
Catrina XXXXX



[e-mail]

[Fridays Child]

59. As is yours. K and R

:hi:

[Old and In the Way]

44. I guess we could send that note to the addy in the OP....good idea

Sub: attaboy

Mr. Green-

Sorry that your personal thoughts are being released publicly. Another benefit of warantless wiretapping for this criminal misadministraton? Believe me, you are not alone in your opinion of our Maximum Leader. Your getting exposure here-

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=post&forum=364&topic_id=735372&mesg_id=735607

Hang in there!

[KittyWampus]

105. That's It! Make this backfire on Rove!

[Catrina]

34. Why is the recipient's name blacked out?? And why is Mr. Green embarrassed

to have said what over 60% of Americans feel, and practically the entire world? I hope he doesn't go apologizing, he'll be fired anyway, so he may as well tell the truth ~ despite his own personal feelings, he and the entire presscorps, covered for this totally criminal and sickening administration.

Maybe if we write to him to let him know he has much support. I'm sure his email is being flooded by irate Freepers right now.

[seabeyond]

36. different angle that this guy can be so disgusted by bush, yet still

they had news that in no way promoted the other side anyway and i dont think it can be proven that his disgust at bush was implemented in his news presentation. but sad that he isnt allowed to express himself without it being turned on him and he loses is job. i think people on camera could say out loud clinton disgusred them for the blow job and lie, and they didnt get fired, but were praised watched and given their own show.

[Minnesota_Lib]

37. The "report" implies Drudge has more emails, not neccessarily...

...originating from Green. The phrase "inner workings of the nation's news outlets" hints to me that Green is not the only one who had his email intercepted and then fed to Drudge. It's almost like someone had these for a long time and now has found a use for them (stepping-up the attack on the free press).

Maybe I am a bigger flake than I already think, but I smell illegal NSA spying for purely political purposes and the hand of KKKarl Rove all over this....

[global1]

38. *Co Will Make An Example Out Of Green, He'll Apologize, He'll Get Fired...

he'll be blackballed from any other job in the industry and have to get a job as a greeter at Wal-Mart.

And all other newspeople will be put on notice as to tow the line or get the Green treatment.

Scary huh!!!

Just noticed the e-mail is from Thursday, Sept 30, 2004. I wonder where * was and what he said to prompt this e-mail.

I also want to know why it is showing up just now - as *Co is blaming the press for everything?

[Hubert Flottz]

46. Good Questions!

This looks like a job for Olber mann. Ko would love to KO Drudge I'll bet!

[Career Prole]

103. No doubt the first Kerry/chimp debate... 9/30/2004

"You cannot lead if you send mixed messages. Mixed messages send the wrong signals to our troops. Mixed messages send the wrong signals to our allies. Mixed messages send the wrong signals to the Iraqi citizens."

http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2004a.html

Edit to add it made me puke too!
:puke:
:puke:
:puke:
:puke:

[Justitia]

39. This is from a YEAR & A HALF ago, during the election season.

Why is Sludge drudging it up now? Who asked him to? Geez, it's a bit late to be calling 2004 "news" isn't it? Especially about an election speech?

[Ksec]

40. and here we thought it was only us who hated this SOB

I guess its just everyone.

[lonestarnot]

42. Woopsie daisy!

John Green, what a nice name!

[pacalo]

43. So, this e-mail is "news" because we shouldn't have an opinion?

If Mr. Green receives any backlash at all for expressing his opinion in a personal e-mail, it's proof that there's no democracy in this country.

[highplainsdem]

47. Drudge has Green's "friend's" quote on Green's reaction within minutes?

Yeah, right...

The story broke an hour ago, and already this "friend" of Green is confiding that Green "deeply regrets...the embarrassment it causes ABC news."

None of this rings true. It's another phony part of the RW war on the media.

[EC]

48. So, just because his JOB is in the news, his personal

opinions have to be in check? Bull-shit, I hope other newsmen stand up to this and not run scared....

[Nutmegger]

49. K & R!!!

This needs a little :kick:and a:thumbsup:!!!

[Lex]

50. This guy is in the MAJORITY. Bush's approval SUCKS.

:shrug:

[izzybeans]

51. He makes me sick too.

[Beaverhausen]

52. Look at the date! This was 1 1/2 years ago

and anyway...who gives a shit?

And ABC News should be pissed at Bush...look what his lovely war did to their new anchor.

[ooglymoogly]

83. they must have been looking for something to take him down

for those 1-1/2 years and that is all they could come up with. they just needed to find someone to leak it so they could protect their nsa source.

[dave29]

53. Who needs wiretapping when you have the wide world of gossip

and email forwarding

[Ksec]

54. So only Libs hate bush?

I know quite a few cons who cant stand his ass.

If drudge is saying this email proves media is liberal I say hes dumber than he looks. And thats pretty damn dumb.

[Catherine Vincent]

57. Give that executive a raise!

LOL!

[girl gone mad]

60. Is this the best they've got?

A producer of the weekend edition of GMA criticizing Bush in an e-mail?

What bombshell will they drop next? Maybe a tape recorded conversation of the janitor saying Bush is an idiot?

[KittyWampus]

109. LOL! When you put it that way, it does make you wonder

how low in the barrel they had to reach.

[ooglymoogly]

62. drudge is a steaming pile of rotting horse shit

always has been always will be. he is as close to a journalist as asterisk is to a president

[ohiosmith]

67. You owe an apology to rotting horse shit everywhere.

[Warren DeMontague]

64. GET HIM! TREASON!

Right. But the U.S. Rep who called Clinton a "scumbag" on the floor of the house....?

[mac56]

70. K & R

I sense danger.

By the pricking of my thumbs
Something Rovian this way comes!

[malaise]

72. Why does he feel bad

Bush makes most people want to puke.

[Atman]

75. How does this "reveal the inner workings" of anyone but Green?

One fucking e-mail from one guy reveals the inner workings of the entire media machine? Even drudge can't possibly buy into this shit.

[AlCzervik]

76. Wow Drudge is really getting desperate, the email is old for one

and for 2 who besides him and freepers really give a shit? And they don't really care either, this just stokes their mock outrage.

[buddysmellgood]

86. Why is it okay for O'Reilly to smear on the air, and this guy can't make a

comment on his private email?

[FatDave]

87. It's pretty easy to fake an email.

For example:



And that's a screenshot. Even easier if you'll settle for a printout.

[KittyWampus]

111. Yeah, but Bush said he doesn't do email. Oh WAIT! He Lies about everything

[Iris]

91. Oh! So THIS is why they had to ask viewers what kind of news they

wanted to see. They covered it on GMA - "What kind of reports from Iraq do you want to see." Then said an "overwhelming majority" (of 31%) said they wanted to see more "positive" stories.

[lumpy]

94. He is certainly not alone

in his disgust. Only the majority of the world is sick of Bush.

[FrenchieCat]

95. So I guess that now ABC will have to be an even Bush

Whore in order to survive.

GOP Psych-Op against the media is all this is! They do this to all of them (CnN-Clinton News Network/CBS-Rather discredited/ABC-Producer Bias/NBC-O'Reilly said they are the worse ones (sure!)/FOX-Don't ask, cause they won't tell)

And ABC is apologizing already! Oh Brother! :eyes:

[Iris]

116. you bet your sweet ass! Check this out

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1758483&gma=true

[FrankBooth]

96. BFD

He makes 70% of the nation sick all the time.

[Sequoia]

98. He shouldn't aplogize.

Doesn't everyone know by now, espeically the media, that your emails are not private or secret.

[AlCzervik]

107. i agree on both-no expectation of privacy and hell no he shouldn't

apologize.

[Vinnie From Indy]

108. BushCo Illegal wiretapping probably got this and gave it to Drudge

eom

[long_green]

110. an 18 month-old e-mail in which the sender

says something that most of the country agrees with now. Wow, it's worse than Watergate.

[magellan]

112. Too bad

Anyone who works for the corporate media takes their chances in this new reality they helped to create. I have no sympathy when they get tagged for trying to have their cake and eat it too.

[Mike Niendorff]

114. My goodness, how awful.

ABC should replace him immediately -- preferrably with someone who can stomach any amount of lies and idiocy without his stomach turning or his principles being offended. In short, with a Republican.


MDN

[baby_mouse]

115. How are the right going to fight a spy netweork that has

no connections between its members?

Hm, lurking freeps?

How is ti going to counter ordinary people NO LONGER cooperating with your bullshit?

How long before the power structure simply dissolves, not through revolution, but through REVULSION?

[KyuzoGator]

117. So opinions in private e-mail are now forbidden. Good to know.

Is anybody asking where Drudge got this or why it is even remotely pertinent to anything?

[NoodleyAppendage]

119. PSYOPS PEOPLE! This is all part of the "anti-media propaganda" campaign.

It is well known that US military Psyops are embedded at all the major networks. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that this email was "revealed" by such an operative in coordination with Rove's anti-media message machine.

J

[walldude]

120. Hope they don't "Black Bag" him n/t

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

121. So someone's private email was leaked. So not everyone at all networks

loves the shrub.

This is news?

Obviously leaked for the "blame the media" blitz. The chilling thing is, what if the "domestic surveillance" is the source of all kinds of stuff like this?