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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:27 AM
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Anyone got info on the Dan Rather Bush Document thing?
I heard that the document which the neocons "proved" was false, was really valid after all, after some new evidence was found? Something like that? I forget, but I'm sure I read it here once.

Anyone got that info/link ?
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:33 AM
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1. Not that I know of
The conclusion of the Annenberg (?) commission was that the document's authenticity could not be proven or disproven. Right away, that's not enough to base an hour-long show on.

If anyone were to hand me a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy and tell me it's authentic, I'd reject it. Dan Rather and his producers should have done that too. It was a mistake of him to base his show on that, when he could have spent the full hour looking into all the other evidence that exists that * absolutely, positively blew off his military service obligation.

I'm sure that Bush did not spend the time in Alabama that he was required to spend.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:41 AM
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2. The Illinois lab proved it was not a "word" doc and that it was typed on
the 1970's typewriters of the time.

"Validity" could not "proved" in the sense of who typed it on what typewriter.

But the Colonel's secretary said that what was said in the memo was what was said in the office and heard by her at the time - although she did not type it.

What was proven was that the right wing blogs and their friends in the main stream media are either liars or are willing to print lies and assertions that smear and indeed end the career of a news anchor, despite having no real proof of anything. They just had Dan by the short hairs because he could not attributed a line of possession for the memo through the years. No one wanted to talk about USSC nominee and Counsel to the President Harriet Miers and her scrubing of the Nat'l Guard file.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 12:00 PM
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3. Here's a very good site.
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 12:01 PM by kath
http://www.glcq.com/set_up.htm
WAS THE “KILLIAN MEMO SCANDAL” A SET UP?
Excerpts:
Newly released documents from George W. Bush’s military personnel files lead new weight to the theory that the White House engineered the recent scandal regarding CBS’s use of the “Killian memos”. Acting under a court order, on Friday, September 24, the Department of Defense released 10 new pages of documents, including an official Texas Air National Guard memo which conclusively refutes the technological questions that were raised about the “Killian memos.”


And it can now be shown that these “new documents” were deliberately withheld by the White House when it released “absolutely everything” on February 13, 2004.

<snip>
Additionally, the recent study by Dr. David E Hailey Jr., Director of the Interactive Media Research Laboratory at Utah State University conclusively demonstrates that the “Killian memos” were produced on a typewriter, and not by a computer based printer. Unlike the “forensic document experts” who pontificated about the Killian memos, falsely declaring them “impossible” to have been produced by a typewriter without ever acknowledging that they did not have the expertise to determine the authenticity of copies of documents, Dr. Hailey is an expert on images, and has demonstrated that there are consistent flaws in certain letters that can only be attributed to a typewritten document. Hailey’s study has received no attention from the major media, despite the fact that it refutes the primary “evidence” that the Killian memos were forgeries.


Indeed, (and despite the statements of the talking heads on television) the Killian memos have never been shown to be forgeries, and the only reason that CBS retracted its story was because it found out that the source of the documents had lied about where they originated. As more and more information comes out, however, the authenticity of the memos is less and less in doubt

Paul Lukasiak has done *very* extensive research on the whole AWOL issue. There is much info at his site, www.glcq.com. He also did very extensive research about 2000 election fraud, detailed analysis of Florida ballot issues, etc.
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