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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:53 PM
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I Don't Know If I Want The Dems To Win The WH in '08
I've been kicking this around ever since B*** said the Iraq mess will be there for the next president to deal with, along with any other number of problems. Also, I don't think that by the time we get to '08 that most Americans will ever vote for one party rule again. I say we should think out placing our emphasis on regaining both the house and senate. Let the pukes clean up the mess they've created and let a completely democratic congress hold their feet to the fire. Oh the investigations we can see! A real 9-11 commission, Plame, NSA, Halliburton corruption and on and on and on. Hopefully, with a dual win the dems serving will be emboldened to become the party we so desperately want.

Your thoughts?
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:53 PM
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1. You can't be serious. n/t
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:54 PM
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2. Three words: supreme court nominees
...not to mention all the lower courts getting staffed with fundamentalist pricks.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:54 PM
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32. Two words: "Too late"
> Three words: supreme court nominees

Two words: "Too late".

Tesha
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 04:24 PM
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34. You'd prefer 9-to-0 over 6-to-3?
Personally I'd rather keep some kind of foothold on the courts. :shrug:
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 06:48 PM
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39. Either way, we lose. (NT)
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:55 PM
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3. Let's see what can be accomplished
in the 2006 Elections. If we are able to get the House or the Senate, and start making things happen for the better, maybe you might just want that Dem. President after all.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:58 PM
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4. True
If we can do it in '06 all the better, and then yes the WH would be the next goal.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:58 PM
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5. I remember hearing this same sentiment for slightly..........
.....different reasons from someone else in 2000.:wtf: Noe it's starting again so we must be nearing election time.:sarcasm:
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:23 PM
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23. I believe it also was Nader's position in 2000. Let the Republicans
win so that it will get worse and then get better. Well, it sure as hell got worse.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:25 PM
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24. Where is Ralphie lately?
:grr:
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:27 PM
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27. "Off the radar" fortunately.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:58 PM
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6. I sure as hell don't want another repuke running this country...
The dems can do a hell of a lot better...hell, some repukes would be a damn site better than bush. As much as I consider McCain a sellout, he would never have done what bush has done. Most wouldn't have.

bush is an extremist as is his cabal.

We're much better off with a democrat in the WH.
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ZippyTeapoe Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:59 PM
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7. So, 14 years after the Right took over the government
you don't want any of it back?

Blasphemy
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:59 PM
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8. This is what Republicans claim to want. Sorry, the R's are completely
incompetent and out of touch - we need to clean the house.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:00 PM
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9. What makes you think they would clean it up?
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 03:01 PM by BrklynLiberal
and SUPREME COURT NOMINEES, as reply #1 pointed out.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:00 PM
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10. so you want to give it over to the NeoCon Fascist Christian Mafia Cults.??
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:00 PM
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11. I want a progressive in the white house
I would take a liberal republican. Since a progressive being elected to the white house is a long shot, I will accept a Democrat in the white house in 2008.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:10 PM
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16. There Aren't Any More Liberal Republicans.
Liberal Republican Republicana Liberalis Extinct.

Once ranging thoughout the northeastern United States, and occasionally
seen in other parts of the country, Republicana Liberalis was driven
to extinction during the "Reagan Revolution" in 1980. There are occasional
reports of sitings, but these can be distinguished from real Republicana Liberalis
by the support of the former for extremist judges proposed by the administration,
and a lack of support for civil rights (a hallmark of the Republican Party at its inception)
and a general indifference to reproductive freedom.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:22 PM
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22. Perhaps Joementum might switch to run with McCain
then he would be a liberal republican instead of a conservative democrat. Rudy Guliuni won the liberal party line when he ran for office.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:31 PM
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30. no he would be Joementum (R-Asshat)
instead of Joementum (D-Asshat). Besides McCain (R-Asshat) and Joementum (R-Asshat) would be a two-asshat ticket and would be unbalanced both politically and mentally. They have to have somebody like Frist (R-Fundaloon) to balance the ticket.

Rudy Guliani (R-Asshat) is not a moderate or liberal republican and the 'liberal party' is a fiction that exists only on paper.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 05:44 PM
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36. at least Joementum is still a dem
:kick:
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:01 PM
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12. We would be better off with a Democrat for president and
a Republican congress like when Clinton was in office. Of course the best of all worlds would be to control everything like the Republicans do today. This can only happen if the Democrats change their ways during election years. You have to give the Republicans credit for knowing how to win an election.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:26 PM
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26. Win/steal.
What's the difference, really? :sarcasm:
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:04 PM
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13. We need to drive the pukes out of every branch.
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 03:05 PM by electropop
They are a clear and present danger to the nation. They've had their chance, and they blew it. Big time. Americans are seriously pissed. It's going to require the coherence of one-party rule to clean the messes up. I think people will be willing to accept that, at least for a little while. After all, it's not just one party, it's which party that matters. Dems can (or at least should) put forth a pretty scathing comparison of our record against theirs:

US: peace, prosperity, fiscal soundness, scientific and social enlightenment.
THEM: war, poverty, fiscal madness, and a return to the Dark Ages.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:05 PM
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14. Uh - forget that nonsense.
It really isn't that complicated. So we inherit their mess. Oh well. Democrats have been cleaning up after Republican disasters ever since 1932. We are damn good at it.
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 04:30 PM
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35. damn right!!
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:10 PM
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15. I'm somewhat sympathetic to that view....
If I had to choose between a Dem Controlled Congress and a Dem Prez...I'd probably lean towards the Congress. Obviously, I'd want both though....
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:11 PM
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17. We Need a REAL President afte 8 Years of Rule by the Pretender pResident
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:12 PM
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18. Who is going to fix it, another republican?
shit.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:15 PM
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19. Excuse me while I pull my hair out in frustration.


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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:28 PM
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28. Sorry For The Hair Loss
I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see it happen, but what are the odds? By 2012, I think there is a greater chance of this happening. Historically this country seldom puts one party in power. After all they didn't vote for it in 2000. All I'm saying is perhaps we should have all bases covered and think about, for starters, where we can be most effective. Perhaps a strong president willing to veto would be a better.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:22 PM
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20. Good thing we are liberal...
and tolerant of others...

When the football team has the best players on earth and you still loose - you fire the coach and get a new one...

Oh, and you never blame the previous coach for anything - it's your team from day of signing... if you know what I mean.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:22 PM
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21. My thought is that your thought isn't a good one.
What makes you think that a Republican administration in 2008 would take any steps to "clean up" their own mess? Are you kidding? Another win in 2008 would be a license to pillage and plunder all the more.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:25 PM
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25. "I don't know if I want the Dems to win the the WH in '00" --R. Nader.
:think:
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:30 PM
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29. My though? You need to think about this more..........
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:32 PM
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31. Yeah, jacked up logic.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 04:14 PM
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33. Are you f**king kidding?
They will never clean it up, only make it worse and worse
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 05:51 PM
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37. If we don't win in 2008,
I'm a Canadian.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 05:55 PM
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38. I do not believe
that the human race can afford for another republican administration. We are at a point on a global scale where we need the revolutionary change in values that Rev King spoke of in that Riverside church in Aril of 1967. To make that an option, we need to make serious changes in the make-up of both the national and state offices in '06, as the first step in the correct direction. And then in '08, we need to take a giant step in that correct direction.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:27 AM
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40. A day ;later ....
...and I feel the same way.
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