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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:54 PM
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Wondering how the Democratic Senators running from Feingold
feel about the latest Bush power grab.

This moron needs to understand that HE DOES NOT MAKE THE LAW.

We all need to call our Senators.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:02 PM
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1. Talking about the Patriot Act signing statement?
Do they even care?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:06 PM
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2. yes, that's what I'im referring to
and I pray that they "do" care.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:07 PM
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3. I do too, but if they said anything, we'd have heard it by now. n/t
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:36 PM
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8. What did Bush say?
I must've missed it.

Rp
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:54 PM
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12. here
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 04:12 PM
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14. Yep... the Hitler comparisons are ridiculous.
After all the Nazi Party powergrabbed all at once and slaughtered the Jews all at once.

Wait, that took a lot of time and it all started with stunts like these. We may not be under a Nazi type of situation yet, but with a brainwashed core of voters, a brainwashing collaborating media, intelligence agencies working to stifle dissent and constant abuses of power from the Administration and it's own party (which happens to be fully in charge), they have set us up for a Nazi like experience.

And if it's not the slaughter of Jews it's all out holy war with the Middle East and Muslims we are heading into.

The comparisons are not that insane when you go action by action and leave out the Holocaust part of it.

Rp
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:20 PM
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4. Most of the prominent Dem Senators hope to run for President.
If they back Russ, they will be backing the future competitor.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:22 PM
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5. They just emailed me for money
I said I'd be happy to pungle up some dough for the DSCC when I saw more Democratic Senators backing Feingold's motion for censure instead of backing away from it.

And since I've given the DSCC money in the past, I hope they'll pay attention to how I plan to give in the future. Fight for me or look elsewhere for your financial backing, boys.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:24 PM
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6. Hi, Sweets!!
:hi:

haven't seen you in a while :-)
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:43 PM
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10. Ah, I got a job
And they actually expect me to work while I'm on duty! The dastards.

Quite delightful to see you, sweetie!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:36 PM
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7. I think they were aware this was coming. it was mentioned during
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 03:42 PM by wisteria
the Alito hearings that Alito had provided this tactic to Bush. One of the major concerns about Alito was his strong belief in a stronger Executive branch of Government. Remember, Senator Kerry tried to stop Alito with the filibuster. Now, if Congress objects to these addendum's of Bush's he can take it up with the Supreme Court and we all know who's side they will vote in favor of.

Feingold's censure will not do anything to prevent Bush from exercising his executive powers. Censure would only amount to Bush apologizing for his actions to "protect the country from the terrorists".
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:49 PM
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11. I don't care - it's the principle - he broke the law
I don't think censure is enough, but it could build momentum.
Democrats know he broke the law, a majority of Americans know he broke the law. How come the Republicans could push and push and push on Clinton's sex life but the Dems won't stand up when there is a really good reason to Impeach? If you don't draw the line and then stand by it loud and clear then they'll just keep moving the line on you.

I know they are afraid they'll look bad during elections but for once I wish they'd stand by principle and not some focusgroup-mediahandler-committeedecision-wimpywishywashy nonstand stand.

I'm not even that progressive and I think this is an obvious thing to do. I know right from wrong. I can see the difference between somebody who stands up for right from wrong and the "politicians" who say what they are told to say to supposedly maximize voters. It's time for Dems to show some spunk.
Grrr.

Instead Reid thinks he can get a filibuster on immigration! He didn't go for an Alito filibuster but immigration is worth it????
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 04:11 PM
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13. Like Jon Stewart said: it's about accountability
Why the hell is it up to the host of a comedy show to point that out?

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Wisconsin Larry Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:41 PM
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9. From my phone calls this pm, they are running even faster
away from the Censure Motion. I first called Kohl's office and was told he will not support the motion. When I asked why, I was told because it "needed further investigation". My response was what is there to investigate when the president admits that he broke the law on warrant-less eavesdropping and will continue to do so. I do agree an investigation on what further laws the administration broke in making use of the information that was gathered is needed but that is not the point of the Censure Motion.

I then asked if not now when will this President be held accountable to the law and brought up the news of the Patriot Act signing statement. The staffer was confused and could not answer. Based on his long silences, he was either embarrassed or taking other calls.

Then I called Senator Kennedy's office. This time I asked how Kennedy intended to vote on the censure motion when it came up before the judiciary committee. His staffer did not expect this to happen. We then got into the discussion why and I was told that there just was not a lot of support for Censure. I pointed out that while is clearly the case inside the beltway it is not the case in the rest of the country. The staffer then said that at times the Senate has to consider implications other than the will of the constituents! Then we got on to when and what will the Democratic Party stand for... No answer from the staffer.

Senator Feingold's office says Censure will come up before the judiciary committee so after thanking the Senator again for the motion, I tried calling Specter's office but gave up after several busy signals. Busy signals I always find to be positive.

And oh, I did call Reid's office who immediately wanted to know what state I was from and asked to put me into voice mail since the phones were overloaded. Another positive sign.

So in support of the orginal post, please do call your Senators and those on the Judiciary Committee to let them know that contrary to the weak-kneed DLC Consultants, there is support for the law to be followed, even by and especially by the President.
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