Why weren't weapons of mass destruction found?

[BlackHeart]

I know the obvious reason is that Saddam had gotten rid of them years earlier.
But what strikes me as curious, given the Bush administrations background for lying and making shit up, is why didn't they fake it? How hard could it have been to fly in some kind of nerve gas or other type of awful weapon and say "Here they are!"? There must be a reason but I'm stumped as to what it is.

[thereismore]

1. because the Bushies didn't bring them in soon enough. nt

[MamaBear]

2. That would have been evidence.

The Bushies don't need no stinkin' evidence.

[BlueEyedSon]

3. "Faith-based" preemptive war.

[Turbineguy]

4. A lot of people would have to be

involved with such a plot. Federal employees (including the Military) still take an oath to defend the US Constitution, not the BFEE. And the work would be too physically risky for Rethug apparatchicks.

[BlackHeart]

15. The oath

doesn't seem to stop alot of the other BS that has been going on. And really how many people would have to be involved? Not many I would think.

[atreides1]

26. Yes, They Take The Oath

But how many in the military or the civilian government have honored that oath.

Please keep in mind that the USA Patriot Act violates several Constitutional amendments, so when are
all of those oath takers going to defend the Constitution???

It's a question I find myself asking a lot lately, so far no one has given me an answer!!!!

The fact is that most who take the oath do so because it's a requirement to get a job, not because they truly believe in the oath that they are taking, at least that's my take on it.

[AndyTiedye]

5. The Mission to Plant Them Came Under "Friendly Fire"

There were some reports here about that shortly after the war started.

[Cyrano]

6. Too many witnesses.

[BlackHeart]

19. Doesn't that reason

pretty much rule out the MIHOP and propably the LIHOP theories?

[mdmc]

7. the wmd were not kept properly, and were destroyed.

all the wmd stockpiles that were there all had our fingerprints all over them anyway.

[BrklynLiberal]

8. Arrogance. They did not feel the need to plant evidence.

[NanceGreggs]

9. IMHO, 'faking it' would have required way too many people ...

... who had to be 'in' on it. And not EVERYONE is a Bushbot. The more witnesses to a crime, the greater the chance that someone will spill the beans.

Besides, I'm sure they were counting on (a) their die-hard supporters accepting ever-changing reasons for being in Iraq after-the-fact, and (b) if no one did accept it, they really didn't care anyway. Once we were in Iraq, there was no turning back - whether there were WMDs found or not.

[kiraboo]

10. It simply wasn't necessary. Americans are idiots, apparently.

Why would the shrub bother to go through the trouble?

[Solomon]

13. Word. What trouble did he get in for just lying about it? Nothing.

[kiraboo]

27. Yep, People are pissed of at him right now. Because of Iraq?

I don't think so. Because of Iran, N. Korea, Syria? I don't think so. Because he has repeatedly violated his oath to uphold the Constitution? Uh uh. Because he's gagged the media and uses only staged events to spew his propoganda? Nah. Prospect of the draft? Phony religious piety? Nepotism? His ugly farking mug? No, wrong again. People are irritated at gas prices. That's what we care about: the price of gas. Right now it's high, so his approval rating is low. I honestly believe that all he has to do is bring it down to $2/gallon and his ratings would shoot through the roof. Damned embarrassing to be an american these days.

[mattclearing]

11. They might have tried.

Some have theorized that just such a scenario resulted in what is now known as the Valerie Plame scandal.

[anarch]

12. because planting them became unrealistic,

and basically unnecessary, since they basically figured out they can do whatever the hell they want and nobody can effectively stop them (except maybe the American people, who so far haven't).

[Warren Stupidity]

14. It isn't that simple.

Anything they 'found' would be subject to a fair amount of scrutiny, and it would be massively embarassing, and clearly criminal, if they were discovered to have planted stuff.

I think they thought they would find enough crap - old shells etc. to make a plausible statement of 'see here'. I also think that their fallback plan was 'we don't give a shit'. They always stated multiple reasons for the invasion, WMD, Terra, Rape rooms and torture chambers, etc. They clearly were setting up the bullshit machine so that they could cover their asses if the WMD (which I assume that they knew there weren't any serious stockpiles of) excuse didn't pan out. The WMD stuff was the domestic cover - the bigger message they were giving was directed at Lybia and Iran and Syria and anyone else in the region: 'we don't give a flying fuck about legality, obey or die'. I think that message got through loud and clear.

[90-percent]

20. govt personnel?

"Federal employees (including the Military) still take an oath to defend the US Constitution, not the BFEE"

I think CIA black OP's personnel don't have to take no stinkin' oath!

At least not to the US Constitution!

If they do oathing, it's probably to the same papers Skull n' Bones members have to.


-85% Jimmy

[ChairmanAgnostic]

16. HEY! There were WMD. Rumsfeld told us that on TV. There, and here and

around Baghdad. I heard him say it, so it must be true.

[The_Casual_Observer]

17. Somebody would tell. If you notice, eventually somebody always tells.

Either the guys loading the plane, flying the plane, suppliers of the gas and so on. My guess is that there are damn few real "secrets".

[Solly Mack]

18. No need to plant WMD when so many people believed the lie

50 years from now, there will be some stupid American who wasn't even born when Iraq took place who will claim Iraq had WMD and that Iraq was responsible for the events that transpired on 9-11-01. They will have heard it from their parents, who heard it from their parents, who heard it from their parents who believed the original lie and never stopped believing it.

As long as one person still believes the lie, the lie lives on - and as long as the lie still has life, there's no need to plant WMD.

[IsItJustMe]

21. Haven't you heard. Faux and the other RW conspiracy nuts say that

it all went to Syria. They don't need truth, they make it up as they go.

[tandot]

22. Trying to fly in WMDs would mean that lots of people know about it

and you can't really make sure that all of them keep quiet. The chance of someone talking about it is too great.

Bush knew that if someone would talk about how he gave instructions to plant WMDs, he and the whole administration would be toast and facing impeachment for high crimes and misdemeanors.

And unlike impeachment for a blow job, this would be some serious sh*t that could lead to jail/death.

[leftofthedial]

23. harder than you think

creating the correct type and vintage of WMDs would be highly nontrivial

a couple of attempted shipments were exposed and then hushed up in Basra.

[LunaC]

24. US tried to plant WMDs but failed

According to a retired Navy Lt Commander and 28-year veteran of the Defense Department (DoD), the US tried to plant WMDs but failed when the operation was taken out by "friendly fire".

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_12-8-2003_pg1_9

[bowens43]

25. Either they tried but failed (most likely scenario) or

they were afraid of getting caught like Reagan was caught selling weapons to Iran.

Bottom line, it doesn't matter. They knowingly used lies, distortions and forgeries to try to justify an illegal and immoral war against the people of Iraq. That is a crime and they should all be prosecuted, tried and thrown into prison for the rest of their miserable lives for their actions.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

28. I Don't Have The Time Right Now, But Ask About The Connection To Plamegate

Therein lies your answer.