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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 06:41 PM
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Replace the Red Cross with Halliburton while your at it
"Hurricane Donation Earmarked for Bush Firm"

HOUSTON - Former first lady Barbara Bush gave relief money to a hurricane relief fund on the condition that it be spent to buy educational software from her son Neil's company.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060324/ap_on_re_us/katrina_barbara_bush
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 06:46 PM
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1. Massive Red Cross fraud on CBS evening news
Giant warehouses full of off the books merchandise, forged documents to siphon money. Massive attacks on the whistleblower who siezed the computer evidence.

so may threads about people being suckers, who give to the Red Cross in Sept.

You were warned...you enriched criminals, not victims
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 06:47 PM
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2. You know, I remember the same thing after 9/11, too
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:04 PM
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6. my post did not do CBS's report justice
hope you have the video.
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sproutster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:50 PM
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7. As soon as I heard what was going on during 9/11
They never got another red cent from me. Sorry I went Salvation Army.

Someone in another board from Florida said after the last big hurricane - The top of her list were FEMA (under clinton) and Salvation Army, Salvation Army was ready as soon as the hurricane passed.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 12:17 PM
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10. I train with the SA, go to their prayer breakfasts, but I am not welcome
as a volunteer--


Mission statement:

The Salvation Army, as an international movement, is an evangelical part of the universal Christian Church. Its message is based on the Bible. Its ministry is motivated by the love of God. Its mission is to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and to meet human needs in His name without discrimination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvation_army



Doctrines:
1. We Believe that the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments were given by inspiration of God; and that only they constitute the divine rule of Christian faith and practice.
2. We Believe that there is only one God who is infinitely Perfect - the Creator, Preserver and Governor of all things - and who is the only proper object of religious worship.
3. We Believe that there are three persons in the Godhead - the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost - undivided in essence and co-equal in power and glory.
4. We Believe that in the person of Jesus Christ the divine and human natures are united, so that he is truly and properly God and truly and properly man.
5. We Believe that our first parents were created in a state of innocence, but by their disobedience they lost their purity and happiness, and that in consequence of their fall all men have become sinners, totally depraved, and as such are justly exposed to the wrath of God.
6. We Believe that the Lord Jesus Christ has, by his suffering and death, made an atonement for the whole world so that whosoever will may be saved.
7. We Believe that repentance towards God, faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, and regeneration (being born again) by the Holy Spirit are necessary to salvation.
8. We Believe that we are justified by grace through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ and that he that believes has the witness in himself.
9. We Believe that continuance in a state of salvation depends upon continued obedient faith in Christ.
10. We Believe that it is the privilege of all believers to be wholly sanctified, and that their whole spirit and soul and body may be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (1 Thessalonians 5:23)
11. We Believe in the immortality of the soul; in the resurrection of the body; in the general judgment at the end of the world; in the eternal happiness of the righteous; and in the endless punishment of the wicked.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvation_army



Controversy

The Salvation Army in the USA has come under attack for what some people see as discrimination in hiring and for its requirements on how employees should behave. Despite the tax breaks it receives as a registered charity, and its government funding (about 11 percent of total revenues, in the form of grants and payments for services), it has a stated policy of discrimination against applicants and employees whose faith or sexual orientation are not acceptable to The Salvation Army. The Army's position is that because it is a church, Section VII of the US Civil Rights Act of 1964 explicitly guarantees its rights to discriminate in hiring.

In a recent case, the New York Federal Court ruled that organization could use religious criteria in its hiring; that ruling is being appealed by the New York Civil Liberties Union. Other issues in the lawsuit by 19 current and former employees are still under consideration by the trial court.

The State of New York has proposed legislation that requires businesses to offer health benefits to same-sex partners of employees. The Salvation Army opposes this policy and has threatened to close its soup kitchens and shelters across New York.

In July 2001, The Washington Post published a Salvation Army internal memo. According to that document, the Salvation Army and President George W. Bush made a deal: the Salvation Army would support Bush's push on faith based initiatives if Bush made sure that the Salvation Army would be exempt from local and state legislations that prevent discrimination based on sexual orientation. The leak created considerable amount of protest from the gay community and other liberal groups.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvation_army


I would rather see a real, non-combat, non-war fighting "militia" like the original predecessors of the Coast Guard (Lifeboat Service, Light House Service), the Volunteer Fire Departments and Volunteer Ambulance Corps (still called the "Fire Militia" in Pennsylvania statutes), the Civil Air Patrol, the Coast Guard Auxiliary, and the like - with a lot of well trained volunteers. Like the state non-combat, non-war fighting "militias" in some states that could not ever be called up by the President for foreign wars of choice and convenience - trained, organized, hierarchal, and using the proven .

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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 12:03 PM
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8. Read this


PS - I was in Xenia (tornado) and in Cinci (floods), dude.
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 07:13 PM
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11. Fraud , was MASSIVE, SYSTEMIC and
Edited on Sat Mar-25-06 07:27 PM by slaveplanet
it is still going on, not only that, but they've been caught MANY times before. The average RC worker in the field are good hearted souls, But of course , they have NOTHING to do with the story.

This is corruption at the top CBS is exposing....You got a problem with that?

Tell it to CBS

Former Red Cross volunteer and attorney Jerome Nickerson wrote a blistering investigative report made public Friday. In an exclusive interview with CBS News, Nickerson said he found widespread evidence of theft and fraud — including a veritable black market of disaster relief goods operating out of New Orleans with the knowledge of some Red Cross supervisors.

Red Cross managers, Nickerson said, "...were definitely protecting individuals that were engaged in diverting Red Cross supplies, it was absolutely unmistakable. I mean we reported it to the FBI, I reported it to the FBI, I reported it to homeland security."

Nickerson uncovered what he called rogue operations — including warehouses with millions of dollars worth of off-the-books Red Cross inventory. On a tip, Nickerson also seized Red Cross laptops and other equipment allegedly used to steal tens of millions in disaster funds. Along the way, Nickerson says, Red Cross personnel fabricated documents, impeded his investigation, and even threatened him.

After Nickerson turned his report in to Red Cross headquarters, he says he was treated like a pariah and pulled off the job.

His findings counter what the charity told the public earlier this month in an open letter — that there were no serious fraud or criminal issues at play.

"It's a flat-out lie," Nickerson said. "The fact of the matter is we found numerous individuals that were committing criminal acts and were committing fraud against the Red Cross, and National Headquarters knows it to be a fact."

The Red Cross declined an interview with CBS News. But officials say they investigate all allegations, prosecute criminals, and have already recovered more than $2 million. They say this shows that their tough-on-fraud policy is a deterrent.

"Any conduct that violates either the law or Red Cross code of conduct is not tolerated," Red Cross spokesman Chuck Connor said Friday, adding that any criminal wrongdoing uncovered by the group's conduct and ethics office will be turned over to law enforcement officials.

Allegations of wrongdoing go far beyond what the statement said were "inevitable ... departures from standard procedures" after such a catastrophe, according to the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee.


more about Red Cross Scumbags... http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/24/national/main1438713.shtml
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 06:47 PM
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3. Wrong fund
It was not the Red Cross; it was the Bush-Clinton one (for rich MF individuals) but the Red Cross leadership is also incompetent.

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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 06:54 PM
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4. Actually, I love the idea of replacing the Red Cross ...
... with Halliburton!

Why buy band-aids and cotton balls in bulk for pennies apiece, when they could subcontract to a third-world sweatshop for the same items, and then sell them back to the American public at a cool fifty bucks a pop?

Hey, Dick and Lynne have to eat just like the rest of us, eh?

And I'd better put the :sarcasm: thingy on, before I get flamed!
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Donkeykick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:00 PM
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5. How come I am not surprised about this?!
:eyes:
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 12:04 PM
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9. I know she won't...
... but she should be ashamed...
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