Is There Anything Bush/Cheney Could Have Screwed Up WORSE?

[Stephanie]

They completely failed us on 9/11, Iraq is FUBAR, the economy's wrecked, the environment's on the brink of catastrophe, the Constitution's in ruins, and then there's New Orleans.

Is there anything that they HAVEN'T completely destroyed on their watch?

[Island Blue]

1. They haven't burned down the White House.

I guess they've got that going for them. :shrug:

[SHRED]

2. Everything...

They can't even ride a bike or shoot sober.

[babylonsister]

3. Reverse midas touch; I asked this question of a co-worker of

my husband's today. His comeback?

"They kept Gore and Kerry out of the Whitehouse. That's enough!"


:eyes:

[Stephanie]

6. Yes, because Peace and Prosperity is just so wrong.

[bbinacan]

4. You're correct on all

the above except the economy is doing pretty well. At least until the housing bubble bursts(like the .com bust). It looks like that is about to happen.

[Stephanie]

8. I guess I was thinking of the national debt.

We owe another $30,000 each now.

[bbinacan]

16. That is a major

problem. Especially for the future. I hope our GDP growth will ease this as in the past. My comment was based more on the current economic environment.

[TomInTib]

9. Uhhh... The housing bubble HAS burst.

http://www.startribune.com/535/story/328041.html

WASHINGTON — Sales of new homes plunged by the largest amount in nearly nine years in February while the median price of a new home dropped for the fourth straight month, providing fresh evidence that the nation's once-booming housing market is cooling off.
The Commerce Department reported that sales of new single-family homes dropped by 10.5 percent last month to a seasonally adjusted annual sales pace of 1.08 million homes. It was the second straight monthly decline and was much bigger than the small 2 percent dip that Wall Street was expecting.

[bbinacan]

17. This was inevitable

When you have people buying like they think there will be no downside, then that market has topped. It all moves in cycles.

[TomInTib]

21. Remember all the overnight investors of the last two years?

Working people who were gonna be real estate tycoons.

They are going to be totally screwed.

[bbinacan]

23. Yep

I'm an investment consultant and I've seen this coming. I saw one guy liquidate his IRA(with a huge tax liability)to buy coastal property. Now that we're in an aggressive hurricane cycle, I don't think this was too smart. I hope he makes out OK. But, I doubt it.

[TomInTib]

30. I feel so sorry for people like that. They are so afraid they will be

left behind that they will take risks that all but insure disaster. One bad break and they are wrecked.

I remember back in the Reagun years and Trump releasd "The Art of the Deal".
Overnight, Republicans became savvy investors. Then a couple of years later bankruptcies went through the roof.

[bbinacan]

32. The sad thing is

that the guy I mentioned is 68 and may blow it. I hope not.

[Stephanie]

36. The sad thing is the coast, not the guy's house.

If we are heading toward rising sea levels we seem to be, then that guy's house is a drop in the bucket.

[Cleita]

13. How can the economy be doing well when people are losing

jobs and losing their job benefits? Many homeless have jobs, but can't afford to rent. I don't consider that a good economy.

[bbinacan]

19. I guess it depends

on what you call a good economy. From the job aspect, we're at 4.8% unemployment. Most economists consider 5% the frictional or transitional rate of employment. So we are below that. Also, the job market for college grads is the best in years. Read more here.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyid=2006-03-20T163503Z_01_N20258421_RTRUKOC_0_US-ECONOMY-JOBS.xml&rpc=22

Since my degree is in Economics, I tend to look at the economy from a non political and more empirical view.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

5. Give 'em a chance.

If there's something still standing intact, they'll get around to destroying it sooner or later.

I'm starting to believe they're going down the Scorched Earth path.

[hedgehog]

35. That explains the brush fires in Texas, Oklahoma and Arkansas this winter

[Bonhomme Richard]

7. I can't understand why anyone is surprised.

Anything that bush or cheney were involved with in the past they completely f***ed up. What in the world were either of them ever involved with that turned out better?

[stillcool]

12. Halliburton?...

the Carlyle Group?....got to admit them and their's are raking in the bucks from every which way.

[Stephanie]

14. Cheney just about destroyed Halliburton.

He acquired that company that had all the pending asbestos lawsuits (Dresser?) - they were only bailed out when he got into the WH and was in a position to bail them out.

[stillcool]

26. here's an oldie but goodie....

Published on Friday, August 4, 2000 in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer
Cheney's Firm Backed Bill To Limit Asbestos Liability
by Andrew Schneider and Lise Olsen

Dick Cheney and the giant energy company he will leave to run for vice president have contributed more than $150,000 to members of Congress who sponsored legislation that would limit the ability of workers to sue companies for asbestos exposure.
The Halliburton Co., an oil-field services company based in Dallas, and its subsidiaries have had about 273,300 suits filed against them since 1976 by workers suffering from asbestos-related disease. Many of those suits were filed before Cheney became chairman of the board and chief executive officer in 1995.
At the end of 1999, 107,650 suits for damages were still pending, including 46,400 new suits filed against the corporation last year, according to the firm's annual report filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Although Halliburton is an enormous operation with more than 100,000 employees in 120 countries, it is a relatively small player when it comes to asbestos litigation, at least when compared with W.R. Grace & Co., GAF and the Johns Manville Corp. Nevertheless, Halliburton has spent $99 million to settle or dispose of 129,650 asbestos suits, according to company records.

A timeline:

1924: Founded by Erle Halliburton
1950-1980: Expanded rapidly, acquiring many other oil-services companies, including Houston construction giant Brown & Root, an expert in offshore platforms.
1982: Halved its work force as the oil industry slumped.
1985: Brown & Root paid $750 million to settle mismanagement charges at South Texas Nuclear Project.
1990s: Halliburton expanded dramatically overseas, particularly in the Mideast and Southeast Asia.
1995: Former Defense Secretary Dick Cheney became chief executive officer. Company won contract to provide services to U.S. Army peacekeeping troops in the Balkans.
1996: Won contract to develop Canadian offshore oil field.
1998: Nearly doubled in size with $7.7 billion purchase of Dresser Industries.
1998-99: Cut more than 9,000 employees in another industry downturn.
2000: Chief Executive Cheney nominated as GOP vice presidential candidate
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/080400-02.htm

[ncteechur]

10. Don't give em ideas. They're not out of office yet.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

11. They Haven't Destroyed My Love For You And Your Pic Threads...

:blush:

hehehe. Sorry, but I'm just a huge fan of your pic threads. :)

[Stephanie]

15. awww, thanks!

:hi:

[Generator]

18. My sense of humor

And I thank God or somebody that they aren't as evil as many think they are. If they were as evil as real evil is-well America is still blessed. I don't expect to keep it. But if they wanted to destroy us they could. They are deluded and a bunch of yahoos. My latest theory on 9/11 is they THOUGHT they could stop it. They were bribing Osama. They thought they could get the Taliban "on board". Oil pipelines. They igorned the warnings because their stupid hubris believed it wouldn't happen to them. Some of them knew better-and did nothing. I don't know who they are but I know they are there. And once they saw they could do shit-because they understand nothing about anyone that isn't a white rich Christian MAN-yeah-some things aren't about MONEY-some people have beliefs-no matter how screwed up they are and hold to them-like the Taliban and Mr. Laden. Once they saw that, they let it happen in the fucked up way they let Katrina ruin a city.

A guy on my local cable access (a great show called Are you FED up?) said he is fed up with being heartbroken about America. Yes. Exactly. They will eventually go down in flames with their hubris, their stupidity and will be in the shitcan of history.

So what they could have screwed up worse-well thank someone that AREN'T competent is all I have to say. Their lack of competence is all we have to get out of this mess. Imagine them with ideas and competence at them. Scary.

[DemoTex]

20. No Steph ...

And we - at DU - called it in 2000. I knew they would be bad, but Jeebus! They are the worst "leaders" at the worst time in world history. They foment war and ecological destruction at a critical time that peace is a must and conventional global conservancy is, perhaps, too late. Forget any new ideas, they are in the shit-can with the rest of science and critical thinking. On environmental issues, their destruction will far exceed that of Hitler and Pol Pot combined. We will be somewhat vindicated by future generations (if that comes to pass) who indeed spit on the ground when the vile name Bu$h is mentioned. I am sorry to be so vitriolic, but that is the way Bu$hco leaves me. It is said that we hate them. Probably so. But by their actions they hate us as middle-class individuals, they hate our Constitutional rights, and they really hate our opinions.

Mac

[Stephanie]

27. Love ya, Mac!

It's worse than we could ever have dreamed. And we were miserable, pessimistic, distraught. We had the direst expectations. And our worst fears were realized a 1000 times over.

S

[DemoTex]

31. 10K over

Minimum!

[lonestarnot]

22. Well whatever the fuck it was, believe me, they're still working on it!

[TomClash]

24. Yes, there is one thing

There could be a nuclear war.

Of course, they still have plenty of time . . .

[Stephanie]

28. I believe they are planning to drop tactical nukes on Iran.

On the Iran nuclear sites. Seriously, that is their plan, I'm quite sure. We already have radiation drifting across Europe from the DU dropped on Iraq and Afghanistan.

[TomClash]

38. Perhaps

DU or "bunker busters" but tactical nukes? Not that DU is harmless - I've posted many times about the use of DU in Iraq. You may be right - with these people anything is possible.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

25. music, until cheney starts singing

if only he would sing to a grand jury.

[Stephanie]

29. Oh, you have forgotten about Let the Eagle Soar?

Now I've put that bug in your ear it will ruin your whole night. So tell me they haven't destroyed music.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

34. you said bush/cheney

so technically...

jeez, i sound like scot mcclellan.

[fooj]

33. Tsk, tsk...Still an embarrassment after all of these years.

Time to climb back into those bumper cars, Little Lord Pissypants! Don't forget your helmut!

LMAO!!!!! ROFL!!!:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Peace.

[mopinko]

37. stop saying that!!

they are doing exactly what they mean to do. stop excusing them.