Latest Republican attack on Democrats -

[hedgehog]

I heard Kevin Phillips trying this out on the Diane Rhem show today - Bush is the Democrat's fault because if we'd run better candidates and better campaigns, he wouldn't be in the White House now!

[waiting for hope]

1. OMG...

They will say anything won't they?

[cynatnite]

2. 'scuse me while I clean the spittle off my monitor...

:rofl:

That's effing hilarious! Blaming dems for bush getting elected. :rofl:

These people are such desperate fucks.

[TayTay]

3. You can't be serious

Their campaign slogan is: Democrats, stop us or we'll send another retard up to Capital Hill.

Ahm, I have now really seen everything.

[laheina]

17. lol!

That's just what I was thinking!

[hopeisaplace]

20. LOL! Or a little Jim Carey: "Somebody Stopppp Meeeeh"

oh my goodness, what next.

[wurzel]

4. What Phillips said is obviously true!

Had the Dems supported Gore with the same intensity as the Repukes supported Bush, he would have won in 2000. Had the Dems supported Kerry the way the Repukes supported Bush in 2004 Kerry would be President. And if the Dems don't support their nominee in 2008 with the same ruthlessness of the Repukes will support their nominee in 2008 we will lose again!

[pansypoo53219]

5. indeed

TOO MANY democrats/progressives/left side want a perfect candidate, instead of the lesse of two evils, and what do we get? evil.

[wurzel]

8. Yes. We must be a party with an agreed compromise platform.

Rather than a conglomerate of single interest groups insisting on the purity of their position. It has been suicidal. Plus the Dems have to lose their fear of this Republican media and call them on it whenever they lie or mouth the Republican talking points. We also need leaders that do not come from red states and are always looking over their shoulders. First electing Daschle and then replacing him with Reid was stupid. Regardless of the very real merits of these men. We need leaders who do not need to fear their own constituents.

[hedgehog]

7. I might agree with you except that the Republican attack machine

has been aimed at every Democrat with any sign of life since Richard Nixon set up his Southern Strategy (with Phillip's advice I might add). Just look at the attack ad aimed at Russ Feingold now. The Swift boat strategy was nothing new. Whitewater never hit the newspaper until after the nominating convention. Senator Muskie was the victim of a viscous personal attack back in the New Hampshire primary when he ran. The list goes on and on and on. The Democratic Party never has been well organized, but the Republican party has interfered in our candidate selection over and over the last forty years.

[wurzel]

38. Isn't it high time the Dems had an "attack machine"?

Why are we letting the Repukes "interfere in our candidate selection over and over for forty years"? How can you expect the American people to trust a party that allows itself be victimized in this way for that long to protect the security of the country? That is why we are getting nowhere!

[Redstone]

6. Well, it's true.Walter Mondale? Michael Dukakis?

Spare me.

Redstone

[Der Blaue Engel]

12. I totally missed them on the ticket against Bush

;)

[Redstone]

16. The point, for Christ's sake, is that if the Dems had put up

someone with a hope in hell of winning, Bush Senior would not have been elected, hence no ready-made base for Bush Junior to use to come in and fuck everything up.

Simple enough explanation?

Redstone

[Der Blaue Engel]

18. Wow, bite my fucking head off

Geez! I take back my wink!

[Redstone]

21. Sorry. Bad night tonight, and I'm cranky. Not your fault, and you

should not have to be the object of my crankiness.

Redstone

[Der Blaue Engel]

25. Apology accepted

I was just being snarky. Sorry my snark intersected with your bad night.

:hug:

[hedgehog]

27. Politeness, discussion, people actually reading each other's posts

This must be one of those wimpy liberal chat rooms!

[Der Blaue Engel]

36. lol

Next, we'll be offering therapy and understanding to Al Qaeda.

[hedgehog]

22. Hey - relax - you just caught the backlash of years of frustration

I grew up with giants, whatever their flaws, John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, Bobby Kennedy. Then, when it came time for me to vote, Walter Mondale, Dukakis? Walter Mondale didn't even campaign, he whined. He went around telling everybody that the good times were over and this country would never be great again (at least it sounded that way).

That's why I keep saying over and over - no more settling for second best this time around. We need someone who's running because he's angry at what's going on in this country and he's determined to do something about it.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

9. Many Democrats say it too. They play it too damn safe!

:popcorn:

[Swamp Rat]

10. LOL!

:rofl:

[dflprincess]

11. If he had said it was the Democrats' fault because

not a single senator would sign on to the House Black Caucus' challenge to Florida's 2000 election results, then I'd agree with him.

[ladjf]

13. Does he mean that if we did a better job of rigging the elections

and appointing our own crooks to the Supreme Court, we'd be in office? Bush is pathetic. His ratings will be in the 20's before it's over.

[ladjf]

14. Over the past few years a number of our best leaders have been

assassinated, followed by several fatal accidents that were mos fortunate for the Republicans. Then there was the matter of 9-11, the good luck of all good luck for Bush who was fast going down the "tubes" at the time. Bush continues to profit from our tragedies. Let us hope that another one isn't on the October horizon. You can't suddenly remove several top leaders by death and expect the Party to maintain powerful leadership.

The Wellstone "accident" might not have been an accident and Carnathon crash as well.

[hedgehog]

19. Yeah, well, I think it's even more subtle than that.

how much traction would Clinton have gotten if Whitewater had come out in April instead of August? I just get the feeling that too many of our primaries were "played" to pick the optimum candidate. It didn't matter whether Bill Clinton won or not; the Republicans had enough innuendo to cripple his Presidency.

[ladjf]

26. It would have certainly helped if Clinton had valued America

over a couple of acts of fellatio. I can never forgive him for that insane act of selfishness. The Clinton scandal doubtlessly was among the things that suppressed the vote for Gore who couldn't decide whether to run with or away from Clinton.

[hedgehog]

29. It's ironic that one man's selfishness took such advantage of

another man's loyalty. On the other hand, it was a replay of 1968. If Humphrey had decided to cut himself free of Johnson's war just a few days sooner...

I can't tell you how many times since then I've watched Democratic candidates start to come from behind in the last desperate days of the race when they throw caution to the winds and start talking like a real Democrat instead of some kind of safe moderate. It's always been too late.

[ladjf]

34. Look at Gore's 2004 campaign. An intelligent, articulate and honest

candidate ran a lackluster campaign because he made the mistake of allowing his handlers to tie him up in timidity. In recent years, Gore has matured and turned into an extremely charismatic and dynamic speaker. Too bad he regained himself after the 2004 run.

I recommend that we avoid the DLC strategies. They are perfectly designed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. No Evan Bayh. No Hillary. No Vilsak. And for God's sake,no Biden. And no Kerry.
(attention flamers, that is your cue.)

[hedgehog]

37. GO GO GO

We joked that the Republicans ran Dole because "It's my turn." I don't want any candidate who doesn't make the suits nervous. Bobby Kennedy met with Caesar Chavez at the end of Chavez' hunger strike in 1968 and decided the next day to run for president. I want someone with that kind of fire. We've been 40 years wandering in the wasteland, and that's long enough!

[KitchenWitch]

15. Jebus!

:grr:

What about Diebold.

[hedgehog]

23. Another prime example of the Republican machine at work

"How could you let us steal the election TWICE and put that theocratic jackass in the White House to lead us to ruin! It's all your fault for playing by the rules while we cheated and stole the country blind!"

[Ouabache]

28. Yeah really, hah, stop us before we kill again !

good post hedgehog...

[Oeditpus Rex]

24. Gee, does this mean

if Ted Kennedy had run in a strategically flawless campaign, the Asspipes wouldn't have rigged the voting machines, hijacked the media, invented the Swifties, etc. etc. etc.?

:eyes:

[hedgehog]

31. If they hadn't had Ted Kennedy to be their ultimate boogyman all

these years, they would have had to invent him!

[liveoaktx]

30. Republicans didn't have to vote that a-hole in, either

[hedgehog]

33. Well, Dr Frankenstein thought he could control his monster, too

Someone asked Kevin Phillips today just what he thought he'd end up with when he came up with the Southern strategy for the Republican party. After some hemming and hawing, Phillips finally said that Nixon already thought up the strategy before he mentioned it to him!

[Raksha]

32. Are you serious? Or maybe I should say, was he serious? n/t

[hedgehog]

35. Absolutely

What's the phrase, ROFL? The Republicans have put a theocracy in power and the Democratic Party should have seen it coming and stopped it.

[Rocknrule]

39. It's the Dems' fault for not stopping Bush from bombing Iraq

even though they were calling us traitors and sending us death threats in some cases for doing so
:puke:

[misternormal]

40. I think it's Poppy Bush's fault for not pulling out on time...

... I guess he never learned that the rhythm method doesn't work.