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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 01:25 AM
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These young, twentysomething wingnut shrub warriors are a real crop of
Edited on Sat Mar-25-06 01:28 AM by Mayberry Machiavelli
losers, eh?

You get George Deutch, the zampolit (political officer) hired to "ride herd" on NASA scientists with PhD's who believe the evidence supports global warning, this guy was around 24 years old, who never even graduated from Texas A&M as he'd claimed on his resume and had to resign in disgrace.

You got 24 year old Ben Domenech the plagiarizing cofounder of redstate.org and late great Washingtonpost.com "Red State Blogger", who, even when busted dead to rights with MULTIPLE incidents of clear plagiarism, claims that MOST were when he was a college freshman, and makes the unsupported claim that his editors placed the plagiarized copy into his pieces. I guess those same editors moved to the National Review and placed his plagiarized movie review there too, eh? Resigned in disgrace.

Then you have the various intern type college student twentysomethings who were brought on to literally run cabinet agencies of the scam known as Bremer's Iraqi Coalition Provisional Authority, where billions of dollars were whisked away without a trace of accounting.

There are many people in their twenties and even younger who are truly gifted, dedicated people who can accomplish great things even at those tender ages. These are not those people.

There is clearly a reason why important posts in government, companies etc. are usually run by people who are a bit more "seasoned" in life. Doesn't always have to be that way, but there are reasons why it's usually done that way.

Young Repubs look at their heroes like Karl Rove who took the easy, shortcut way, who quit college for a career of slimy political hackery and has achieved fame, power and fortune through slime, and they want to do the same thing. Not quitting college to found some great company or enterprise or new discipline of science or knowledge.

You don't have to actually have to read books and learn stuff and actually become educated if all you're going to do is be a political hit man, those dark arts are learned as apprentice to people like Rove and Atwater.

Just slime and hackery.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 01:28 AM
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1. They are also the type to have coasted through college
on purchased term papers, thinking that cheating made them a lot cleverer than the kids who actually did the work. They're cheaters who have always taken the easy way out and therefore have no clue how to produce anything all their own once they get into the real world.

Just like their hero in the White House.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 08:01 AM
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12. I did a year as a graduate teaching assistant
Edited on Sat Mar-25-06 08:03 AM by formercia
and always had problems with the frat boys. Not only would they cheat but even the grammatical errors were the same. I would compare their papers and they would be letter for letter exact. When I took them to task, they complained to their daddy-boosters and had me censored. The cheating is multi-generational.
I decided that working as a research assistant was less problematic.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 01:30 AM
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2. Just pretend the Bushfolk are the Clintonfolk -- Then, investigate ...
... and report.

That's my advice to the media.

DO IT!

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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 01:30 AM
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3. The American people get what they voted for.
Edited on Sat Mar-25-06 01:33 AM by gatorboy
These Repugs have made it quite clear that they disdain government work. Yet they're constantly voted into office. I understand that none of your examples are elected officials, but it shows that these people, on a whole, care very little about actually serving the public and are more concerned with expanding their careers.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 01:50 AM
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6. WE DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM! EITHER TIME!

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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 01:52 AM
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7. I'm not talking about Bush entirely.
Edited on Sat Mar-25-06 01:53 AM by gatorboy
But Republicans on a whole. They have made it quite clear that they don't like doing government work. Work fo the people. And it shows.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 01:49 AM
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4. Those Are "Who You Know" Jobs. "What You Know" Jobs Went Offshore
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 10:41 AM
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14. Ohhhhh!

I would be :rofl: if I were not :cry: at your statement!
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 01:50 AM
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5. My dentist has a friend who gave his son $$$ to donate to Bush/Cheney 2004
You guessed it. The kid's a recent college graduate. He's now working in DC.

Dentist said the kid was a lazy-ass. Parents gambled on the political system working.

The parents won.

I think America lost.


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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 01:54 AM
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8. Another interesting aspect:

I also find it VERY telling how this gentleman behaved when caught red-handed : instead of taking responsibility and coming clean with his mistakes, he just tried to spin an even bigger lie to cover up the lies he'd already told.

In that respect, he's a perfect poster-child for the Bush movement : a lazy cheat who's skated through life by playing games, and now has gotten so used to cheating that his only instinct when caught is to lie and cheat some more.

It's a movement of punks and con artists, advancing though life by cheating the system and laughing at the losers who play by the rules and try to live straight-up. And, even worse: today's Young Republicans admire that.

Yes, there is a lesson in all this.


MDN
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 01:57 AM
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9. Yes, that automatic "more bigger lying" response angered me, but it
is really revealing about the nature of the young man.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 10:49 AM
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16. Your right about that!


"It's a movement of punks and con artists, advancing though life by cheating the system and laughing at the losers who play by the rules and try to live straight-up. And, even worse: today's Young Republicans admire that."


I use to wonder at how the 30% base cannot see what scum the current administration is, then I realized, it's not that they don't see it, it's that they admire these character flaws.

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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 03:55 AM
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10. Well, there's room in Hell for all of them too.
They should start going there now.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:57 AM
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11. Professional buttlickers, living off the Empire. LOSERS
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 10:40 AM
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13. people who hate government should not be put in charge
I keep wondering why they want to run things that they hate so much? Why not do something you enjoy and let those who want to govern do so?
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 04:47 PM
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18. Because it can make you and your friends RICH is why. YOU get rich by
working for some company that you helped enrich while you were in government, after you get out. Like the DeLay aide, Scanlon, who went straight to work for Abramoff.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 10:47 AM
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15. How many Master's degrees are there in the MAFIA?
It don't take no smarts to bully people. It take meanness and Republicans excel at that.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 11:49 AM
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17. Good thread. K & R nt
Edited on Sat Mar-25-06 11:50 AM by glitch
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