another winter storm watch for HAWAII! - global warming indeed..

[msongs]

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HONOLULU HI
322 AM HST SAT MAR 25 2006

...HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG WINDS IN STORE FOR THE VOLCANO SUMMITS ON
THE BIG ISLAND...

.A NEW LOW FORMING SOUTHWEST OF THE ISLANDS WILL BRING MORE HEAVY
SNOW AND STRONG WINDS TO UPPER ELEVATIONS OF THE BIG ISLAND.

HIZ028-260215-
/O.NEW.PHFO.WS.A.0003.060327T0200Z-060328T1600Z/
BIG ISLAND SUMMITS-
INCLUDING THE CITY OF...MAUNA LOA AND MAUNA KEA ABOVE 8000 FEET
322 AM HST SAT MAR 25 2006

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM SUNDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH
LATE MONDAY NIGHT...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN HONOLULU HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM SUNDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH
LATE MONDAY NIGHT.

HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL BEGIN ON MAUNA KEA AND MAUNA LOA
SUNDAY AFTERNOON AND CONTINUE THROUGH LATE MONDAY NIGHT.

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[acmavm]

1. Nope, no environmental problems. None at all. Everything melting,

ozone holes over South America, beaches disappearing due to rising ocean levels, droughts in a large part of the United States alone, and now winter storm warning for Hawaii two weeks before Easter.

Nope, nothing strange at all. :sarcasm:

[ladjf]

2. What is your point? That there is no global warming?

[SPKrazy]

3. It Does Snow On The Volcanoes Of Hawaii

People even ski on them.

[Rick Myers]

4. Today in Tennessee the NASCAR Busch Race was delayed for

SNOW! They stopped the race and the fans and crews actually had a snowball fight! One crew built a snowman. Then the sun came out, it dried out and the race continued. No one can tell me that the global climate is getting out of bounds! As a species, we are in deep kimchee!!!

[johnaries]

23. The cold weather here in TN is because of the jet stream.

The jet stream has moved south of TN, allowing cold air from Canada to sweep down here. The local weathermen here in Nashville say that the weather will remain cold until the jet stream moves north again. They are calling for temperatures in the 70's by the end of the week, however.

And yes, the jet stream is affected by global warming.

[Jayhawk Lib]

5. That does not seem like global warming to me.

The earth may be shifting on it axis causing areas that were once warm to cool and areas that once were coo to warm up. Man is just a very small part of nature and really pretty small in the big picture.

Flame me if you wish but I am entitled to my opinion just as you are yours....

[donco6]

9. Actually, it could be global warming.

As the ice caps melt, currents in all oceans will be disrupted. Currents that bring relatively warm water to the Pacific could shift, allowing colder Arctic water to flow further south.

Or we could just be spinning out into space.

[aquart]

10. You were right the first time.

Our island and coastal climates are very much dependent on what have been very predictable ocean currents. But those currents are being disrupted.

That means people won't be able to live as they used to in many places. Or at all. Which means large migrations of people...which usually means there will be war.

The only preparation this nation has made for the displacements due to global warming is to hand out contracts for detention camps.

[ptolle]

13. TOC- THC

Any naysayers, I'm just saying, need to be invited to research the effect of water temperature changes as from melting icecaps on such climatological phenomena as the Thermal overturning current and the thermohaline cycle.

[Tesha]

19. You're apparently also entitled to appear foolish in public.

> The earth may be shifting on it axis
>
> Flame me if you wish but I am entitled to my opinion just as you are yours...

You're apparently also entitled to appear foolish in public.

If your theory were true, you (and thousands of scientists everywhere)
would only need to look up at the night sky and find that Polaris is
no longer the north star. Unfortunately for you and your theory,
Polaris is still sitting above the north pole (at least as much as it
ever was in our recent times).

Tesha

[Jayhawk Lib]

31. Okay, I appear foolish.

Now if this is caused by man and it (global warming) has been happening ever since the ice age, what are you going to do about it??

[annabanana]

21. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion...

no one is entitled to their own facts.

[pansypoo53219]

26. back to that stupidity

the global warming is throwing off the NATURAL stystem. more violent storms, extreme swings. draught there, flooding here.
whatever we call it, we are fucking with mother nature.

[Blue_Tires]

30. +1

[Jayhawk Lib]

32. It has been happening since the ice age.

If it is happening, how are you going to turn it around?? We can't! We are screwed!!!

[electron_blue]

6. Snow on Hawaii mountaintops is *not* new

It is 14,000 feet up there. And in fact, I'm pretty sure there's been snow up there everytime I've ever visited there.

big hint: Mauna Kea means "white mountain" in Hawaiian.

[Jara sang]

7. I live on Mauna Loa. It snows here every year.

This is only a big story for people with a limited understanding of geography and climatology. There are TWO 13,000+ foot volcanoes on this island. The media uses this story as a "News from the quirky" item but it is totally normal.

[MuseRider]

11. I tried to get some land

there. I wish I had been able to make it work out. It was between South Point and the Kona coast. We looked at several spots in that area. I needed enough for my horses and did not want to be in Waimea. What a lovely spot to live.

[Jara sang]

12. That's where I live, in Ocean View. Still pretty cheap here.

When we first got here land was going for $5000 for acre lots. That storm is arriving as we speak, thunder off in the distance, that is usually a telltale that it is going to dump snow pretty hard around the summits of Mauna Loa and Mauna Kea.

[MuseRider]

27. I can't remember exactly

where Ocean View is but I was there because I remember it. Is it just on the West side of South Point?

I think my favorite place was just up the mountain from Kona, a little artistic community. It was like being back in the 60's. They told us they were not interested in having new people move in. Can't say that I blame them. But ohhhhh was it beautiful. HUGE Ginger plants, the Oleander was 20 feet high and my favorite, Frangipani. *Sigh*

Edit I just looked it up. We spent a whole day looking at sites around there. The number one reason we did not purchase was because of the lava flow zone. My husband did not want to live in an area with the risk that high. :shrug: I suppose he probably had something there since we would have to evacuate horses as well as the rest of our menagerie but damn, it was really nice there.

[Jara sang]

14. It was hot this morning, temperature just dropped dramatically.

Serious thunderstorms on the horizon.

[MuseRider]

25. Awesome.

The last time I was there (some of the best diving ever off the Kona coast) I was investigating everything. Since I am in Kansas I had to ask about thunderstorms because I would miss them terribly. They told me that they were pretty rare but really good when you got them. Enjoy. I am so jealous. I have been to a lot of places, lots of tropics to dive but the Big Island remains one of my very favorite. What an amazing, unusual place it is.

[Cha]

22. So you're back there!

Good for you..I probably won't be there for at least three years. My son's property(Fern Forest Estates) is about 7 miles from Volcano National Park at 2300 ft.

My friend, and her boyfriend, at work just got back from the Big Island..they were housesitting for 3 weeks in the Puna area. She brought back some beautiful pictures to exclaim over.

You're really up there high!

[Jamison]

8. Ha! They're getting it too.

Local weathercaster said this has been the 3rd coldest March on record here. Global warming is not going to make winters warmer like some think. It's going to make winter more intense, longer, and colder. Of course it's going to do the same with summers.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

15. Global warming will have uneven effects around the world,

due to ocean currents.

It is DEFINITELY melting the polar areas. Just this past week, I saw a presentation by Arctic explorer Will Steger, who showed "before and after" pictures of various places in the polar regions. Utterly convincing.

On the other hand, it is predicted that the melting of the ice caps may make Europe colder, because it may disrupt the Gulf Stream, which is the reason that western Europe doesn't have the climate of the Yukon, despite its high latitude. (Look at a map. Scandinavia, the British Isles, and other nearby countries are at the same latitude as Canada, and southern France is at the same latitude as Minneapolis.)

[Media_Lies_Daily]

16. Try not posting on topics you obviously know nothing about.

[MiniMe]

17. Big Island Summits above 8,000 feet, not on the beach

BIG ISLAND SUMMITS-
INCLUDING THE CITY OF...MAUNA LOA AND MAUNA KEA ABOVE 8000 FEET
322 AM HST SAT MAR 25 2006

[paul_fromatlanta]

18. The first effect of more energy in the atmosphere is more chaotic weather

[Tesha]

20. Ding ding ding! Correct! (NT)

[Katherine Brengle]

24. global "warming" does not necessarily cause "warm" weather, numbnuts

what a right wing talking point that was...

[Balbus]

28. Maybe it's global cooling...

:shrug:

[Pirate Smile]

29. Global Climate Change is actually more accurate then Global Warming.

[paul_fromatlanta]

33. Global warming so far is less than one degree in the last hundred years?

So if was gonna be 25 today , on average it would be 26 instead. Can any of us feel that?

If it was 24 instead you couldn't tell that either.

But globally that extra degree means extra storms and on average slightly stronger storms but any one storm could be weaker..its the average we are talking about.