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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 02:10 PM
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"The question isn’t ’should the president be censured?"


"The question isn’t ’should the president be censured?’ The question is, ‘Why does it take a censure resolution to get the majority party to pay even lip service to fulfilling its constitutional obligation to provide oversight with respect to the actions and policies of the executive and judicial branches of this government?’ It’s time for the Congress, and particularly the Republicans, to decide whether choosing to protect the president instead of choosing to protect the interests of the American people, is the wisest course of action, and whether that choice is truly serving national security, or political power."

http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/03/26/better-framing-on-censure/
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 02:14 PM
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1. Their choice is clearly serving political power.. We have one last Chance
to throw them all out in November. Or we are all going off to the Gulags.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 02:18 PM
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3. Exactly!!! Are we all going to go willingly? Blindly? Dumbly?
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 02:17 PM
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2. AMEN!!!!
"Constitutional obligation"! That's a great talking point. But will they listen?

Thanks for this thread!!!
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 02:19 PM
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4. You framed it perfectly!
The major problem as you stated, the fact that congress are working for their party not the american people our their country.

Of course thats the drawback to one party rule, it doesn't rule over its on party. I've never understood why the minority party have no authority, the can't subpoena and hold hearing and i would like to know why? That leaves a large section of citizens elected Representatives unable to serve their constituencies.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 02:19 PM
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5. I'm still having trouble understanding why this censure is such
a BIG DEAL to the PUBS! I can understand why they'd fight impeachment. Censure is a slap for being such a bad boy! No fines, no penalties. What am I missing?
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 02:34 PM
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6. censure - if it passes - means bush isn't Pure Hearted Goodness
and the next coming of God.

Kind of goes against the repukes party line which has bush annointed from on-high and doing God's work to spread freedom, decency, and the american way....

:puke:

besides they are afraid of bush (and themselves) hitting the fabled "tipping point" prior to the midterm elections and their one-party theocracy going down in flames.
Censure (and the annoying facts that would be in the press about WHY) would likely hurry the day of reckoning.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 02:39 PM
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7. Well, good for Finegold! I really hope the rest of the Dems join with him
on the censure vote!

I'm not even sure myself if I want the Country to go through another impeachment. I always believed a big part of the reason the Pubs did it to Clinton was payback for Nixon. Neither was good for the Country! But somebody has to put the breaks on Shrub, and tell him in no uncertain terms, that he's not a King, this is NOT a dictatorship, and he TOO must obey the laws!
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 02:39 PM
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8. The problem is the voting machines. We won in 2000 and 2004;
the Pugs are never going to let the Dems win enough seats to be in the majority again unless we stop the cheating. It's so blatant and yet still nothing is done. We have to be very diligent this year everywhere. Otherwise we are cooked.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:11 PM
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9. You hit the nail on the head!
Without honest elections, we have nothing.

We must all keep the pressure on. Call our representatives, demand a paper trail and mandatory election audits by independent parties, tell others about the fraud, support those in areas who are actively able to do something about it.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:26 AM
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10. KICK KICK KICK!!!!
Why isn't this gettng more attention!!???
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