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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:19 PM
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"Would you support unrestricted Wire Tapping if John Kerry had won?"
Edited on Sun Mar-26-06 03:25 PM by aden_nak
EDIT: Please read the actual paragraph. ~_^

Now, I know the answer from almost everyone here is going to be No, and it's not a serious question I'm posing to you all. Rather, it's a question I have been repeatedly posing to the conservatives I know that still support Bush (and admittedly, they are few and far between lately). The immediate response is usually, "Well, I, uh. . . " and then a long, akward pause. And that's really the fundamental issue here (not to mention the fundamental difference between "them" and "us"). The answer reveals the blatantly partisan foundation for the Warrantless Wiretapping argument. So my question is, why have I yet to hear a pundit or a politician ask that question of the Neoconservative opposition?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:20 PM
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1. Good question and the answer is NO!!
not today, not tomorrow, not Kerry, not Bush, not EVER!!!!!!!!!!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:20 PM
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2. I ask them if they will mind when Hillary spies on them
after she is elected.

Sends them over the edge.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:22 PM
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9. I followed up with that once when someone said Yes.
"What if Hillary wins in 2008? Same answer?" I swear, I could actually HEAR his blood pressure rising.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:20 PM
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3. No, I would not. Wish I could remember the wording of something
Ed Morrow said about pushing freedom abroad while compromising it at home ...
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:21 PM
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4. There's something inherently wrong with the question
Kerry did win ;)
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:23 PM
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11. Yeah, but these are Freepers. You have to hold their hands.
You know, baby steps and all of that.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:22 PM
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5. I personally think Bill Clinton should have been above the law
We were in the Balkans and their had been terrorism so he was obviously a war president so he should really have had absolute power and all of congress should have backed him up nonconditionally so as not to risk encouraging our enemies. (please note the sarcasm but I would have trusted Clinton more than Bush although I prefer a president to a king of any political bend)
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:22 PM
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6. Ya' phrased it wrong--
Would you support unrestricted wiretapping if Hillary did it? I ask because if she is elected, Bush set the precedent that will give her that power.

Then duck 'cause their head will explode . . .
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muse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:22 PM
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7. God, no. nt
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:22 PM
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8. My saying is still "President Hillary will love that power"
and watch their heart attacks begin.

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:22 PM
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10. No offense, but that is a stupid question.
It shows a lack of understanding who Democrats are.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:24 PM
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12. You should read the whole post, and not just the title. /wink
Edited on Sun Mar-26-06 03:26 PM by aden_nak
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Midnight Rambler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:24 PM
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13. Absolutely not. No president is above the law.
Not only that, but all Americans' rights deserve to be protected. That's the difference between us and the RW. They only care about civil liberties when they're the ones being targeted. They don't care about anyone else's rights. But the Constitution protects us all, regardless of ideology.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:24 PM
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14. Excellent Question!
The answer is Hell No! You expect that kind of thing from a fascist neo-con. Not from a Democrat.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:27 PM
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15. Your question assumes conservatives/fundies know and.......
.....understand the meaning of the word "fair". As we are painfully aware neocons/fundies don't view what is good for Bush as being good for everyone else.

BTW, the answer to your question is a flat out NO, not ta, zilch - no unrestricted wiretapping by anyone at anytime.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:28 PM
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16. I have heard that question asked on several different TV shows.
The Pubs usually give a typical non-answer. You know, answering a question that wasn't asked!
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:29 PM
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17. NO!
Kerry wouldnt go for that crap anyway!
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:31 PM
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18. I have a harder question.
If John Kerry had been elected, would he have allowed the NSA eavesdropping to continue? I'm honestly not sure. Maybe they wouldn't tell him, or maybe they'd explain it as a necessary part of the "War against Terror." Power, once obtained, is very difficult to give up. My worst nightmare is if a Democrat is elected, & the facism continues.
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:31 PM
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19. Well done--we should be asking this of every conservative...
we encounter.

In fact, I think I am going to make this the focus of my column this week.

Well done!
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:32 PM
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20. NO.! Hell no! I prefer my fourth amendment rights intact, thank you.
the constitution is clear: only with a warrant, and then issued only with probable cause.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:35 PM
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21. Of course
NOT! :shrug:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:43 PM
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22. Hell no and it's a stupid, insulting question.
I am loyal to my Nation, not my political party.
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:49 PM
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23. Hell, no. If a Demo gets elected and doesn't undo the damage
done by the Bush junta, he's just as bad. Worse maybe, if he's that gutless.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:51 PM
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24. You're making it too easy..
... I'd ask "if Clinton were still president?"
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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:16 PM
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25. Absolutely Not! n/t
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:20 PM
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26. Good luck on people reading past the topic heading!
"EDIT: Please read the actual paragraph. ~_^

Now, I know the answer from almost everyone here is going to be No, and it's not a serious question I'm posing to you all."
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And you're right - asking that question causes an immediate & stunning reaction in a conservative! You can almost see the circuits starting to short & smoke!
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:50 PM
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27. Or even better - if HILLARY becomes President. nt
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