So at hubby's conservative evangelical church today...

[GreenPartyVoter]

I was in adult Sunday School class and we were talking about negative images of Christianity in the media and one person cited Fred Phelps. I mentioned that I agreed it was too bad that he is being put out there as though he's some mainstream Christian leader. Then I said, "Really, it's too bad the people like the Christian Peacemakers and other human shields got such little play in the news for so long and even got really negative play from the war-loving media in terms of people calling them stupid or unpatriotic."

Then the woman who mentioned Fred Phelps looks at me like I had 3 heads and said, "I want some of that crack you've been smoking. The media hates the war and Bush and can't say enough about how awful he is. I can't even watch that Katie Couric anymore she's so awful talking about him. What channel have you been watching?" Two other people in class chimed in on that with her.

I almost died laughing and shot back with, "What have _you_ been watching... FOX?" But the Sunday school teacher broke it up and got us back on topic after that.

Still, if I get any email from her about it this week I will have to send her some articles and editorials about what a bang-up job the media did during the run up to war questioning every little move the fuhrer made. Oh wait, that's right. THEY DIDN'T! (If you have any faves of that nature feel free to list them here and I'll add them to the note. I want something ready to go the second I see something in my inbox from here. *l*)

[lisa58]

1. Just tell them that...

...if they had any good news, Fox would be reporting it. If Fox doesn't have footage from Iraq or anywhere else, there's no "good news".

[GreenPartyVoter]

11. True enough

[DanCa]

2. Thank you for speaking up.

That's what we have to start doing if were going to change these people's mind. I know it mustn't been easy for you. :hug: PS I wonder what they Catholic's are going to say when I attend Easter Mass with a bumper sticker that says Vote Stem Cell, and Blagoveich - Quinn in 06 on the back of the chair.

:toast: for speaking out.

[GreenPartyVoter]

3. *hugs* I was thinking of you yesterday when I found this article

http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20060324/D8GI68Q80.html

[xxqqqzme]

21. "...That would also open the door

to removing testicular cells from a male patient, growing some tissue the patient needs, and transplanting that tissue into the same man without fear of biological rejection, he noted..."

I know of a huge supply of such cells in DC.

from your article
http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20060324/D8GI68Q80.html

[CatholicEdHead]

12. Depends on the parish and your parking spot

Some take it more seriously than others. I had a "Catholic for Kerry" sticker on all during the summer and fall of 2004. I also have a Amy Klobuchar for US Senate one on which will stay until November. I tend to park near one of the main exits to the lot so most people get to see it. My parish is the most liberal in town, but it is not more than just slightly left of center.

[Bozita]

4. This may be helpful - "What You Need To Believe To Be A Republican:"

I found this posted here at DU a week or so ago.



What You Need To Believe To Be A Republican:

Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.

Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy
made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him, and a bad
guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.

Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist, but trade with
China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.

The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest
national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.

A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind
without regulation.

The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in
speeches, while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.

A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then
demand their cooperation and money.

Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing health
care to all Americans is socialism. HMOs and insurance companies have the
best interests of the public at heart.

Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but
creationism should be taught in schools.

A president lying about an extramarital affair is a impeachable offense,
but a president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is
solid defense policy.

Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution,
which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.

The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but
George Bush's driving record is none of our business.

Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a
conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for
your recovery.

Supporting "Executive Privilege" for every Republican ever born, who will
be born or who might be born (in perpetuity.)

What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but
what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.

Support for hunters who shoot their friends and blame them for wearing
orange vests similar to those worn by the quail.

Feel free to pass this on. If you don't send it to at least 10 other
people, we're likely to be stuck with more Republicans in '06 and '08.

Friends don't let friends vote Republican.

[yorkiemommie1]

6. i have copies of this in my purse

to leave in restrooms, fitting rooms, grocery carts when i'm done.

[Stargleamer]

7. "George Bush's Driving Record" (?)

Don't you mean Laura Bush's driving record? As far as I know, * never killed anyone (in a car anyhow).

[Pirate Smile]

9. Probably Bush's DUI that was covered up and came out the week

before the 2000 election.

[GreenPartyVoter]

10. I believe he has a few OUIs under is belt, but yeah I am always armed and

with Laura's driving record ready if "Chappaquickick" comes up.

[harpo]

5. I was wondering why you even went...take him somewhere else and

educate him before he drinks the kool-aid

[GreenPartyVoter]

8. He's a pastor's kid and came to me this way, Won't go to any other

flavor church, so I go to his and make myself a bit of a thorn in their side now and then. (no pun intended) :P

[upi402]

13. Extra!; righties cited 50%, lefties 16% of the time

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2534

Many hard fact articles, analysis and studies done by them -all proving beyond a doubt that the media is FAR from liberal.

[Vinnie From Indy]

14. Damng it!

I wish I was there. I would have told the lady that brought up smoking crack that she should be talking Rush "Hillbilly Heroin" Limbaugh if she wants to score.

[GreenPartyVoter]

15. Yeah, my dad says I oughta said, "Sorry, I don't do drugs" *lol*

[ChristianLibrul]

16. Save your energy; those people are beyond help

I know those people very well, and they're not teachable. Find a real church where they follow Jesus instead of Bush.

[harpo]

18. yep...that's my experience as well

[Lostnote06]

17. On this topic I'm reminded of Phil Donohue

......He was "canned" although he had high ratings at that time.....He was too rational at a knee jerk moment in history

[Rocknrule]

19. They think any news that makes Bush look less than divine is far left

just like Coulter thinks anyone to the left of Hitler is a traitor and hates America

[GreenPartyVoter]

20. So true