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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 07:22 PM
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An op-ed about young black men makes the NYT most-emailed list
Op-Ed Contributor
A Poverty of the Mind
By ORLANDO PATTERSON
Published: March 26, 2006
Cambridge, Mass.

....So what are some of the cultural factors that explain the sorry state of young black men? They aren't always obvious....An anecdote helps explain why: Several years ago, one of my students went back to her high school to find out why it was that almost all the black girls graduated and went to college whereas nearly all the black boys either failed to graduate or did not go on to college. Distressingly, she found that all the black boys knew the consequences of not graduating and going on to college....SO why were they flunking out? Their candid answer was that what sociologists call the "cool-pose culture" of young black men was simply too gratifying to give up. For these young men, it was almost like a drug, hanging out on the street after school, shopping and dressing sharply, sexual conquests, party drugs, hip-hop music and culture, the fact that almost all the superstar athletes and a great many of the nation's best entertainers were black.

Not only was living this subculture immensely fulfilling, the boys said, it also brought them a great deal of respect from white youths. This also explains the otherwise puzzling finding by social psychologists that young black men and women tend to have the highest levels of self-esteem of all ethnic groups, and that their self-image is independent of how badly they were doing in school.

I call this the Dionysian trap for young black men. The important thing to note about the subculture that ensnares them is that it is not disconnected from the mainstream culture. To the contrary, it has powerful support from some of America's largest corporations. Hip-hop, professional basketball and homeboy fashions are as American as cherry pie. Young white Americans are very much into these things, but selectively; they know when it is time to turn off Fifty Cent and get out the SAT prep book.

For young black men, however, that culture is all there is — or so they think. Sadly, their complete engagement in this part of the American cultural mainstream, which they created and which feeds their pride and self-respect, is a major factor in their disconnection from the socioeconomic mainstream....

Orlando Patterson, a professor of sociology at Harvard, is the author of "Rituals of Blood: Consequences of Slavery in Two American Centuries."


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/26/opinion/26patterson.html?incamp=article_popular_3
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 07:31 PM
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1. exactly the same pattern with young "arabs" in France
the girls graduate, the boys hang on the streets
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 07:40 PM
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3. And the pattern may encompass both black and white America...
according to another recent NYT op-ed by a college admissions counselor. She wrote about having to turn down more-qualified girls in order to admit less-qualified boys, so colleges will have a male-female balance.

"To All the Girls I've Rejected"
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/23/opinion/23britz.html?ex=1143781200&en=93dac5ba192a7f44&ei=5070&emc=eta1
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 07:35 PM
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2. I've been hearing similar for years...
Like, how young black men didn't want to look like they were excelling in school for fear of being accused of "acting white" (does that mean if a white youth does well at math, he could be accused of acting Asian?)

As a part-time job from around 1990-1997 or so, I covered a lot of the nation's top high school basketball players, and obviously a majority of them are of African American descent. This was always an issue when a seemingly inelligent young men would struggle to make a passing grade on their SAT in order to qualify for college, and so many alums would get upset and ask why somebody couldn't make a mere 700 on their SAT.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 07:43 PM
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4. they're playing fantasy games and need some parents to STOP THEM
Not society, not television, not teachers, but PARENTS.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 07:50 PM
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5. Idiot hick culture
That's what we call it where I live. This isn't unique to any race or color. It's our society that disdains education, it's a president who thinks it's funny to be stupid. And no, white males do not turn off Kid Rock or Toby Keith any better than black males turn off 50 cent.
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bedpanartist Donating Member (915 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 07:52 PM
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6. That's why I tell the little gangsters
I deal with on a daily basis that they are the same as uneducated country bumpkin hillbillies who don't have any real idea of the world past their own block. They cut down on the feaux gangsterism after a few zingers from a former gangster.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 07:53 PM
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7. I think you're right. See post 3. nt
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