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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 07:22 PM Original message |
The immigration crisis in the US is Montezuma's Revenge on the White Man |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATISM |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. You have that right warpy... and that's the issue that needs to be |
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liberal43110 (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 09:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. No one talks about this |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 09:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. No one? You mean the elected politicians and "pundits"? |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 03:27 AM Response to Reply #20 |
57. People are talking about that... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. Thank you, Raging! I share your sentiments! I |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 04:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
61. Just curious babylonsister |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 01:00 PM Response to Reply #61 |
73. It drives wages down across the board... n/t |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
3. If the immigration bill passes, it will be a typical do nothing |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 07:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. It will be interesting to see how the white christian fundies respond |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 12:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
40. The Catholic Church has long been there for the illegal immigrant |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. viva la libertad! viva la raza! |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-29-06 01:36 AM Response to Reply #4 |
121. Viva la Raza! |
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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
7. Your post is most welcome |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. this is what people are really freaking out about... |
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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 08:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. People react so insanely to things that they have no |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 12:33 AM Response to Reply #11 |
49. People are still posting insanity, they haven't even bothered to read |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 08:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. What they fail to see is that the two cultures will become one |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 08:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Many white college kids would starve if it wasn't for |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 09:03 PM Original message |
Especially at 3 a.m. |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 06:15 AM Response to Reply #17 |
100. yeah, like the whole French versus Freedom fries crap |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 09:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. I love your anarchist avatar |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 10:21 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Thanks |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 11:33 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. I second that. |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 12:22 AM Response to Reply #33 |
46. upside down V for Vendetta |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
9. Y'know what funny thing I've been thinking? |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 08:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. But, Isn't that essentially at the root of White Supremacy after all? |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 09:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. No doubt |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 09:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. yes.. of course, the paranoia Israeilis have is based on real life |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 10:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. How do you protect yourself without harming others? |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 12:13 AM Response to Reply #32 |
42. Yes, you'd think... eom |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 03:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
80. Indeed |
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BlueStorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. We have no right to deport... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I have a similar genes to you. |
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BlueStorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 06:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
114. I think I have French Canadian Indian in me.. |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 09:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. you put it very well... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
13. Thanks for posting this. Some DUers don't believe that |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 09:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. exactly so.. |
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Appalachian_American (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 12:29 AM Response to Reply #27 |
47. This has probably been said somewhere else, but I've missed it |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 12:31 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. ! |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
14. The revolution is long overdue. |
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VirtualChicano (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. dr. truxillo of the university |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 09:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. "Utah Said To Be Historical Location Of Mythical Aztlan" |
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VirtualChicano (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 03:14 AM Response to Reply #30 |
56. Awake Sleeping Giant, Awake! |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 10:33 AM Response to Reply #56 |
68. What up, Raza! |
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VirtualChicano (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 04:00 AM Response to Reply #68 |
93. EL PUEBLO UNIDO |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 10:14 AM Response to Reply #93 |
106. I love it |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 06:18 AM Response to Reply #30 |
101. Utah and Nevada were part of Mexico but taken in time for the California |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
19. I am Norwegian by descent and would just love |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 10:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. agreed |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
21. In an interesting correlate: DC is about to become majority minority |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 03:42 AM Response to Reply #21 |
60. I lived in San Francisco for ten years and loved the fact... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
24. Outstanding! |
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Zinfandel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
29. Fuck the bullshit dude...fight the republican corporate structure... |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 09:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Its republican corporate structure thats the enemy |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 12:20 AM Response to Reply #31 |
44. Ruling Class Elite - They Control Both Parties |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 10:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. I'm not fighting liberal brothers and sisters |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 12:10 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Amen Brother... Amen! This is exactly what's all about! |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 04:14 AM Response to Reply #29 |
63. Zinfandel I Toss Love & Kisses To You From Sicily |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 03:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
113. Amazing how some racism |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-29-06 12:45 AM Response to Reply #113 |
119. I'm afraid i share your observations.. |
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countryjake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
36. You mean "share land we stole from them", don't you? |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 11:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Have you heard of the ongoing strike down here in Miami |
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countryjake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 12:16 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Typical offering of concessions... |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 12:21 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. great story... eom |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-26-06 11:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. We always said that in the SDS |
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dusmcj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 01:03 AM Response to Reply #39 |
51. thank you |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 01:50 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. "The Dilettantes and The Flatulators" |
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countryjake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 02:07 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Revolutionary continuity... |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 02:29 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. workers united! will never be defeated!.. |
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countryjake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 02:46 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. To the tune of the Battle Hymn of the Republic... |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 12:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
69. Thanks! Solidarity Forever is One of My Favorite Workers Anthym! |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
50. Kicking for the am crowd.. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
58. The "white man" are also the upper class within MEXICO |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 01:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
75. Don't worry. There will be no Chicano Civil War. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. I'm not denying that Manifest Destiny was one reason |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. NOBODY is starting a war to "take back" the Southwest.... |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 05:20 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. I do not have a problem with Mexican simply being in Texas |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 07:00 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. Yes, I've heard that too, along with the Panama Canal and Venezuela etc |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 06:59 PM Response to Reply #76 |
86. I'm not suggesting that we give land back to Mexico... |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 07:56 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Historically-speaking, a secession movement is possible |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
59. Such is evolution - the better overcome the rest |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 04:13 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Then let evolution take its natural course |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. So, Are You in favor of Social Darwinianism ? |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 01:12 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. What I am in favor of does not really matter |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 06:17 PM Response to Reply #74 |
85. Wow! Actually You did Answer the Social Darwin Question.. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 09:17 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. To me, Yes it is |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-29-06 12:43 AM Response to Reply #91 |
118. yes.. but.. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-29-06 02:26 AM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Pretty much |
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DrunkenMaster (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #59 |
78. Social Darwinism is NOT Evolution |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 01:38 AM Response to Reply #78 |
92. What is the difference? |
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anitar1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 05:00 AM Response to Original message |
64. Excellent post, Raging. I found myself cheering as |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 05:44 AM Response to Original message |
65. enjoyed your post |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 06:04 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Yes, Montezuma wasn't the most civil ruler |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 06:36 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Welcome to the United States |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. The Story of Injustices Carries on through the Generations .. |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 12:15 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. self delete (factual errors of the Monroe Doctrine) |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #65 |
110. Yes, the Mexica were a rather bloodthirsty set of |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
79. Profound indeed |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
81. As my wife would point out, it really isn't the Mexican's land either. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. I've read that the Mexica's came down from what is now the SW USA |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. No, that's folklore. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 07:05 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. I never mentioned Aztlan, I know it's a mystical place |
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VirtualChicano (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 04:28 AM Response to Reply #88 |
97. sorry |
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VirtualChicano (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 04:24 AM Response to Reply #83 |
96. again you are misinformed |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #96 |
109. And that proves what? |
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VirtualChicano (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:33 PM Response to Reply #109 |
115. It proves you can no longer hide the truth from us. |
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VirtualChicano (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 04:18 AM Response to Reply #82 |
95. yes, this is true |
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VirtualChicano (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 04:15 AM Response to Reply #81 |
94. that's preposterous |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 04:32 AM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Is it possible that "chicanoforums" has it's own... |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 10:04 AM Response to Reply #98 |
105. Isn't is possible |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #105 |
112. Why are you scaring everyone with your foreign ways? |
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VirtualChicano (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #98 |
107. Please read our mission statement |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 06:26 AM Response to Reply #94 |
103. I agree and so do the Western Shoshones who live nearby |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 06:24 AM Response to Reply #81 |
102. I disagree with your wife. I work for Shoshones and they talk about |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 01:58 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. Are there similarities? Of course. |
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Trish1168 (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-27-06 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
89. I'm descended from the wealthier spanish Mexicans and our land was taken |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-29-06 01:14 AM Response to Reply #89 |
120. Boy Howdy! What a hell of A Story! |
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VirtualChicano (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-29-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #89 |
124. I'm descended form |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 06:12 AM Response to Original message |
99. Excellent and true rant! Thanks for posting! |
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Mr.Green93 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
104. It is not a "crisis"..... It is Manifest Destiny |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
111. El pueblo unido. |
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VirtualChicano (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:38 PM Response to Reply #111 |
116. Jamas Sera Vencido! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 10:36 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Welcome to DU, hermanito. |
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VirtualChicano (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-29-06 03:17 AM Response to Reply #117 |
123. ty |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-29-06 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
125. Did you just compare immigrants to shit? |
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