ROVE said COOPERATING in CIA LEAK INQUIRY- Rawstory

[stop the bleeding]

Larisa Alexandrovna
Published: Monday March 27, 2006


Karl Rove, Deputy White House Chief of Staff and special adviser to President George W. Bush, has recently been providing information to special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald in the ongoing CIA leak investigation, sources close to the investigation say.

According to several Pentagon sources close to Rove and others familiar with the inquiry, Bush's senior adviser tipped off Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald to information that led to the recent "discovery" of 250 pages of missing email from the office of Vice President Dick Cheney.

~snip~

According to one source close to the case, Rove is providing information on deleted emails, erased hard drives and other types of obstruction by staff and other officials in the Vice President's office. Pentagon sources close to Rove confirmed this account.

None would name the staffers and/or officials whom Rove is providing information about. They did, however, explain that the White House computer system has "real time backup" servers and that while emails were deleted from computers, they were still retrievable from the backup system. By providing the dates and recipient information of the deleted emails, sources say, Rove was able to chart a path for Fitzgerald directly into the office of the Vice President.







Read full article here:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Roves_cooperation_seen_to_advance_inquiry_0327.html

[Tiggeroshii]

1. Could Rove be feeding Fitz Cheney?

It almost looks like it given McCain's past asskissing.

[w13rd0]

3. The Iraq was Cheney's baby...

...and it's proving to be the albatross around this administrations neck. It's no surprise that they are preparing to toss Cheney overboard. Could explain why Cheney has taken to drinking and shooting people in the face...

[Maat]

7. Yep.

I read this book that sort of explains everything - "The Rise and Rise of Richard B. Cheney," by John Nichols.

[Blaze Diem]

71. LOL..that's funny

funny yet true.
Cheney, you dumb dolt.

[roguevalley]

83. Rove is taking out the competition. Interesting.

[BrklynLiberal]

2. With KKKarl Rove, nothing is as it seems.

No doubt in my mind, he has a card up his sleeve, or maybe several.
Once a cheater, always a cheater.

[Mabus]

8. I just watched "Silver City"

and the Rove character sandbags his critics so their reputations are shot and they are unhirable. Rove has definitely made a career doing this to people. I hope he's running out of tricks. Let's cross our fingers and hope this time Rove will get nailed and take a few out with him.

[emulatorloo]

11. Sadly Raw also says this:

<snip>

Whether or not Rove's recent cooperation will spare him an indictment and a Fitzgerald probe remains unclear. But according to last week's New York Times, associates say Rove is "increasingly certain" he will not be indicted in the case.

<snip>

I hope Karl is wrong.

[stop the bleeding]

15. I know that part got me as well

It stinks like a deal even though Luskin is emphatic in his denials,

I guess time will tell.....

:popcorn:

[leveymg]

18. I'll trade Rove for Cheney.

Besides, if Rove turned, he's not going to continue working for Bush. Hope Karl's polished that resume.

[lyonn]

24. Rove is the deal maker or enabler

He is not in the decision making apparatus like the Pentagon, Intelligence, President, etc. Rove appears to be the salesman for this corrupt corporation.

Who will be Rove's next candidate to put in high places? Polishing that resume for sure. Will Rove testify in this mess? Nothing would be more satisfying than watching this worm squirm.

[leveymg]

26. Yes, Rove is a deal-maker, and yes, he is a worm.

Bet he isn't hired anytime soon.

[emulatorloo]

30. Dunno, McCain seems to want Rove pretty badly

McCain will say or do anything to support Bush -- I am assuming they have promised McCain that he can have Karl if he is a good little boy.

[kayice]

136. That could be a big backfire on McCain these days....Rove is done. nt

[Me.]

57. Between Rove & Libby

Libby is the whale to Karl's trout. And Libby leads to Cheney and the WHIG group, the main plotters in chief. As for B*** either way, he's screwed. Loses Rove or keeps Rove and compromises himself even further. Slowly but surely it's becoming a win-win/

[LuckyLib]

103. As long as we're using seafaring metaphors here, Cheney is chum to the

Fitzgerald shark. Time will tell if the shark wants more than just Mr. Dick.

[A Simple Game]

63. He may or may not continue working for *, but

no one else would ever trust him.

Forget politics for the future Mr. Rove.

[MissWaverly]

102. Bush would never have him around if he ratted them out

He's all about loyalty, remember, when one of the White House aides was so scared that
he was puking in the bathroom and that was just because he had to tell GWB bad news.

[PegDAC]

127. Naw, I won't trade anyone for anyone.

I want the whole damned bunch to be perp-walked out of there, from ** on down through the entire Cabinet!:mad: :grr: :rant:

[PegDAC]

129. Let me try this again!

I'm sorry for raising my voice, but I WANT ALL OF THEM GONE!!

My mantra: Impeach. Indict. Convict. Imprison!

[auagroach]

138. Regarding your mantra: Impeach. Indict. Convict. Imprison!

you are much too forgiving in my opinion. Treason is punishable by death.

[librechik]

49. damn--I'm still saving a bottle of French Champagne for Rove

he's gotta get indicted!

[lyonn]

64. I'm gettin' some really good beer

Like at a liquor store! That stuff that has in excess of 3.0. Preferrably Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. If Any of them get time to do it will be party time.

[Mabus]

58. He can always go to work as Fox News Analyst

Along with the other disgraced Republicans who need employment after they've been used up and spit out.

[Generator]

101. Why believe a thing the lying suckface pig

has to say? I mean really. He's so yucky I can't even think about it. Maybe a little flight for some rendition might do the trick but otherwise- trust what Rove says? Please. I hope he's not playing Fitzgerald because in my mind, unless he fingers the big Dick and the big Dick goes down-nothing else is worth Rove's continued freedom.

[lancdem]

113. If that's true, it's because Rove is cooperating

Remember, Rove is not Fitz's target; Cheney is, and perhaps Bush. He cares about the biggest fish.

[sendero]

105. One of these days...

.. Rove is going to cross the wrong person.

[Mabus]

142. That is the day I'm waiting for

and I hope it will be enough to stop him once and for all.

[Maat]

4. I sure hope this is the case!

Wouldn't that make things interesting? Of course, is Rove doing this with Cheney accepting it? Cheney's such an arrogant meglamaniac - wouldn't Rove be slightly scared of him (especially forgoing going on a hunting trip with him)? I'm sure Cheney will be taken care of by the Boooshes; if not, that's a real lesson for all about lying down with Rethuglicans.

[lyonn]

14. Don't they eat their own? n/t

[wtbymark]

5. Perfect! Cheney resigning then impeach the chimp- is that a 2for..

[NVMojo]

6. dang, this is fecked up! What does it really mean? Rove found Jesus?

[AndyTiedye]

70. He Found a Neon Sign that Says "Jesus" and Has Been Waving That Around

for quite a few years now to whip up the Fundies and keep them voting Repiglican.

[harpo]

9. rove thinks he is (mis) leading fitz...but fitz will use the data against

that pos

[lyonn]

10. White House Computers real time backup servers?

Fitz no doubt got word of this service through some witness and has put the squeeze on Rove telling him the jig was up. And yup, Cheney might be a really good scape goat, considering his poll numbers and "poor health." Someones gotta take the fall, right?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

82. They were originally installed during Reagan's first term....

...and emails on those servers tripped up Ollie North who also believed he had deleted smoking guns from his PC. I knew one of the guys who installed the system.

Hard to believe anyone would have seriously believed that there was no back-up system for the Executive Branch.

[Me.]

94. They Never Learn Do They?

Cheney was around when the Watergate plumbers messed up and during the whole tape incident, now we find North was tripped up by servers, the same ones that may bring Cheney down. They must not be familiar with the cautionary tale about history repeating itself.

[sendero]

106. Something like that..

.... there is absolutely no way Fitz didn't know about the mail backups, none.

One wonders if Rove is simply trying, desparately, to keep himself out of prison.

[ClayZ]

12. Come on, Fitz... Get KKKarl too!

I want to see him in handcuffs!


And get Condi, too!

[Me.]

13. Back-up Servers

gives me shivers. The real fun begins now. We can pretty much guess who he squealing on. What I find interesting is that pentagon sources are being quoted. Maybe there is a twofer going on here; Rove gets back at Libby and Cheney for "tricking" him into breaking the law and the Pentagon nails Cheney and his neocon cabal. An "the enemy of my enemy..." situation.

[leveymg]

16. "Pentagon sources close to Rove"? What does that mean, LaLa?

I wasn't aware that Rove was close to the Pentagon. Are we talking about someone in Rummy's office? Or, does RawStory have sources inside NSA or DIA, or what? Very intriguing.

Wouldn't it be interesting to find out that the NSA runs the White House backup communications system. That makes sense.

Live by the warrantless wiretap (and malicious leak), die by it.

[stop the bleeding]

17. .

:popcorn:


Yep, very interesting....

[kayice]

21. He who 'charts a path' is probably the leader. n/t

[lyonn]

55. Your suggestion about Rummy connection

is interesting. It's like the PentagonDefense and the White House are not connected, at least in this case. In other words, is there a Rummy vs. cheney thing going on?

[leveymg]

67. At this point, it's every rat for himself.

This ship of state is listing 20 degrees to starboard and going down.

[hang a left]

84. I don't think so.

Rummy and Chaingang arelikethis. I think that maybe someone from the Pentagon wants to label Rove a rat.

[hang a left]

81. Maybe it is someone who has also turned witness from the OSP?

It has been suspected that the Franklin case and the Plame case would intersect.

on edit: No I don't think so. Someone is smearing Rove. They either know or suspect it is Rove who gave up the email deletion info.

[H2O Man]

97. I would suggest

looking back at Jason Leopold's February 24, 2006 report on TruthOut: "Plame Whistleblowers Targeted by Administration." It contained a good bit of valuable information, though it was overshadowed by the "White House 'Discovers' 250 Emails Related to Plame Leak." The first should be viewed in the context of the Pentagon; the second, in terms of Judge Walton.

[LeftHander]

19. Rove is a liar...and will always hide behind lies...

His "cooperation" is another lie. He is not cooperating by appearing to cooperate. He will bury himself and Fitz will be patting down the dirt.

[troubleinwinter]

20. "erased hard drives and other...obstruction by staff and other officials"

"erased hard drives and other types of obstruction by staff and other officials in the Vice President's office." 'Obstruction' is a mighty big word in this context.

The article also brings up again that Gonzales waited 12 hours to (officially) notify WH staff to retain records. He doubtless whispered warnings to some in the interim.

Wouldn't it be interesting to have The Attorney General of The United States indicted for Obstruction of Justice.

[kayice]

25. Oh, yeah....that little prick Gonzo is dirty as hell. n/t

[TacticalPeek]

32. Yes, indeed - not that he would be the first Republican AG indicted.

Mitchell, John Newton, 1913–88, U.S. Attorney General (1969–72), b. Detroit. A law partner of Richard M. Nixon, he managed Nixon's 1968 presidential campaign and was made (1969) Attorney General. In Mar., 1972, he became head of the Nixon reelection committee, but he resigned in June, following the break-in at the Watergate offices of the Democratic National Committee by employees of the reelection committee. Subsequent investigations of the Watergate affair led to Mitchell's indictment, trial, and conviction (Jan. 1, 1975) on charges of conspiracy, obstruction of justice, and perjury. He was also tried, but acquitted (Apr., 1974), on charges related to the secret contributions to Nixon's campaign funds made by financier Robert Vesco.

http://www.answers.com/topic/john-mitchell-composer

:evilgrin:

[spuddonna]

33. Yeah, as the chief law enforcement official...

... How can you justify waiting 12 hours to notify staff to retain records in a criminal investigation?

They are all so crooked, it makes my blood boil... :grr:

[hang a left]

92. Actually he didn't wait

He told Andy Card right away.

[spuddonna]

107. That's right! Holy cow, I'd forgotten that...

There's so much lying and deceit that it gets hard to remember it all...

[leveymg]

34. What he did was hand them rope and time to hang themselves

It's not impossible that Gonnzo's playing a role in a real war between the Oval Office and the OVP. Then, again, . . .????

Anyone know exactly when those e-mails were deleted? Was it during those 12 hours?

[hang a left]

93. Oh I hope I hope I hope

That would be perfect.

[lyonn]

35. erased hard drives and obstruction

We all know, or believe, that this stuff has been going on, now it appears Fitzi is doing what we had hoped he could accomplish. Happy, happy girl here.

[leveymg]

37. I'm allowing myself to become optimistic.

We will see. If this pans out, this is a MAJOR LEAGUE SCOOP.

LaLa's the man! }(

[lyonn]

42. Being too optimistic is not healthy, but

this web of evidence is really making sense and maybe enough evidence to kill this particular party, meaning the bushies. In other words, to wake up America and vote appropriately!

[leveymg]

51. We should all have little disclaimers at the bottom of our posts:

"Any reference in the writing above to the termination of government officials is not meant to convey any desire for or incitement to violence or actual physical harm to said officials. That is, not until they've had a proper trial by a court of law, sentence has been handed down consistent with law, and execution of sentence is to be carried out by a lawfully appointed headsman who has a very poor aim."

[lyonn]

56. Too effin' funny leveymg! n/t

Edit: Oh, the kill word, I was referring to eliminating them from the political process. Am I a chicken or what.

[leveymg]

60. You make your disclaimer, I'll make mine.

:D

[fooj]

73. I'd break out into a "happy dance" for that!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[hang a left]

87. Be still my heart.

I just don't know? Did you see the picture a couple of weeks ago when Gonzo was in Chicago with Fitz at his side during that news conference??

[kayice]

137. I seen that as Gonzo trying to horn in on the bust glory.....

that bastard doesn't do anything.....his only 'client' is the President, remember? Fitz prolly wanted to pound Gonzo's arse in the ground and slap the cuffs on him. You know that little arrogant weasel tries to throw his weight around. Ack! I cannot get watching him testify at the hearings out of my head..... :mad:

[Supersedeas]

22. was Matalin a staff to the VP back then....hmmmmm

[Me.]

27. Yes

& a member of WHIG.

[Snotcicles]

78. I was just thinking the same thing, n/t

[Media_Lies_Daily]

115. Look up WHIG....White House Iraq Group. Very interesting....

...group of names in that little organization.

23. most excellent

now the heat will really be turned on between Cheney and Rove.

[Patsy Stone]

28. Go, Larisa!

Thanks for the story. I hope they give you proper credit when they run with this!

K&R!

[catmandu57]

29. KKKarl may be serving up snarlin dick

and trying to wriggle off the hook himself, maybe he will, but karma will catch up, there's no escaping it. I don't believe he has a very bright future in store.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

31. depends on how define "cooperate".

[WI_DEM]

36. They know Cheney is vulnerable so they'll throw him to the wolves

to protect themselves.

[glitch]

38. Rove's mission is to serve and protect Baby Bush. Period.

Nothing in the contract to protect Cheney.

[seemslikeadream]

39. Karl, Cheney's on the phone, wants to know if you'd like to go swimming

with the fishes?

[leveymg]

40. "This call is being recorded for quality-control purposes."

Seems the entire WH and OVP phone and e-mail network needs to play that message.

[stop the bleeding]

41. Penguins ROCK!

Hey SLaD:hi:

[lyonn]

44. Cute! n/t

[lala_rawraw]

54. ROTFL!!!

:)

[leveymg]

72. Okay, LaLa, we know you're lurking around here. When do we see the next

round of indictments? We're starving out here, and you just dangled the roasted pig over our heads! Or, is that the world's fattest rat on a stick?

[lala_rawraw]

104. will this do for now?

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001310.php

and Leopold has something tomorrow, beyond that I must keep my mouth zipped or be flogged;)

[leveymg]

110. Steve Clemons endorses your story. That's GREAT!

Even better, his source close to Rove confirms your source close to Rove. That's even GREATER!

Here's that snippet from Clemmons Blog for the others around here:

March 27, 2006
Beneath the Surface on Plame Investigation: Rove and Libby in Deadly Dog Fight

This just hit the internet at Raw Story, and TWN has confirmed the essential points through a source close to Rove

WOW!

Another question, LaLa - Why are sources close to Rove spilling their guts now? What's about to happen? Does it start with an I and end with a T?

[lala_rawraw]

114. i cannot discuss outside the

boundaries of the article... it is bad enough people say i reported things I did not, so until I write it, i am not even going to say it:)

in the mean time, this is also really interesting: http://timesonline.typepad.com/mick_smith/2006/03/is_karl_rove_st.html

[motocicleta]

134. Thank you, ma'am

I'm on the edge of my seat ...

[lala_rawraw]

140. me too... don't know what Leopold is writing, i just know

something is in the works:) boy, I am eager as hell and cannot wait. so we are all waiting together!

[stop the bleeding]

145. Andy Card? n/t

[mmonk]

117. Interesting what a little pressure

can create. Can't wait to see what Leopold has and how things play out. Thanks for your work.

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[understandinglife]

75. Well done, Larisa - once again!

Be The Bu$h Opposition, 24/7

[PegDAC]

130. As long as they're pirahna!! sp? n/t

[Faygo Kid]

43. Be careful, Fitz. I smell a trap.

We are talking Karl Rove here. This is another "leak" that I don't trust.

[leveymg]

46. If Fitz has the backup tapes, how is this a trap?

Seems like an open and shut case of perjury and/or OOJ, except the plea bargaining part.

[patrioticliberal]

59. "Backup tapes" my ass.

Forged by Rove.

[leveymg]

66. I don't think even Karl has an A-ticket to Ft. Meade

Recall that the backup servers are off-site. Does that suggest Rove's garage to you?

[BootinUp]

45. Squeeze him like a zit, Fitz! n/t

[annabanana]

47. "I think Rove is now considered a special cooperating witness."

Said the source...

Do "special cooperating witnessess" usually have their chestnuts in the fire or in a vice?

[spanone]

48. As if he had a choice???

If nothing else Karl will try to save his own sorry ass.

[bvar22]

50. Sooooooooeeeeeeee!!!!

Now, let's you just drop them pants, Karl



Come on piggy, give me a ride...
Looks like we got us a sow here, instead of a boar...
I bet you can squeal like a pig.
:)

[leveymg]

53. But, Rove might enjoy being

licked, spittled, and gummed by Southern men who reference strange affinities for domestic livestock. It seems to have been going on for years. Just ask Laura about Dubya and horses.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

89. There are plenty of those types in the North, too....

...have you ever traveled through the Northeast, Northwest, Midwest, and West?

Do the names Dahmer and Gacy mean anything to you?

[pacalo]

76. We need some music to go along with that...

[Beetwasher]

52. Cheney Just Invited Rove To Go Hunting With Him

n/t

[malaise]

61. Go Fitz go

I want both of them :popcorn: :popcorn:

[kpete]

62. always interesting

K&R

[Independent_Liberal]

65. Alright Karl! Rat him out!

The little ratfucker is squealing! Yes!

Fitz is da man!

:)

[Botany]

68. Fitzmas Time?

Sing a ling ....
Watch pig boy sing
it's Fitzmas time in the city
Hear Karl squeal
as he makes his deal
Soon it will be Fritzmas Day





Rove





Cheney

[Blaze Diem]

74. haaaa, that's the best!!

love it!

mmmm..I smell roast pig! Fitz is getting HUNGRY!!

[Dora]

69. Ahem.

[npincus]

77. does this mean he won't (ever) be indicted?

methinks Rove would not bring down the whole (white)house, just divulge enough to save his own ass.

Hmmmmmm?

[RBHam]

79. A Deal Has Been cut...

Fitzpatrick was the Prosecutor in the 1993 WTC case. If I'm right about him, that he's a "fixer"...meaning he's the inside Law Enforcement guy who's job it is to protect the major players of the BFEE, while taking down some "cut out" fall guy(s)...we'll all soon see.

1993 World Trade Center false flag
Who Bombed the U.S. World Trade Center? — 1993

Growing Evidence Points to Role of FBI Operative

By Ralph Schoenman

(published in Prevailing Winds Magazine, Number 3, 1993

Simultaneous with the detonation of an explosive bomb at the World Trade Center in New York on February 26 of this year (1993), FBI investigators were en route to New York.

"Even as office workers were trying to pry their way out of stalled elevators or stagger down smoky stairwells in the wake of a devastating explosion last Friday," wrote Ronald J. Ostrow and Robin Wright (Los Angeles Times, March 3, 1993), under the headline "U.S. Tackling Blast Probe on Unprecedented Scale," "a special team of men and women were leaving FBI headquarters here for the next flight to New York."

Not only the FBI was so prompt. "Thousands of people and dozens of agencies here and abroad sprang into action. ‘I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything bigger, except maybe the Kennedy Assassination,’ said one counter terrorism official."

Officials declared that the vast scale of their "investigation" notwithstanding, "it will take several months (emphasis added) before the forensic aspects are completed," if only because the bombing "could," according to CIA analyst Graham Fuller, "be an operational decision dating back a year that doesn’t have any relationship with immediate events" (Ibid.).

The ink wasn’t dry on the press release before the discovery of the alleged culprit in the bombing was announced by these same agencies within hours of their prior declaration, evincing investigative skills that eclipsed any heretofore in evidence. How was this accomplished?

more...

http://www.radio4houston.org/takingaim/home/articles/wt...

[motocicleta]

135. link not workin' eom

[gasperc]

80. sounds like a ruse, planted by Rove or Melhman

a conservative attempt to dilute the impact of the story

Fitzgerald runs a tight ship and such a leak is way out of character


I think it's crap, trying to dis-credit and dismantle Fitzgerald's investigation

[AnnInLa]

112. I agree with poster gasperc

when Jane at www.firedoglake.com starts posting that Rove is cooperating, I'll believe it.

[lala_rawraw]

133. lmao, okay

do let us know, she is after all the expert

[symbolman]

144. How nice of you to admit that

Jane IS the expert on this, always has been. That's where a lot of people go for good solid information on this, even guys like Joeseph Wilson himself. He's kind of a stickler for facts.

[gasperc]

146. firedoglake is quickly moving up the foodchain

maybe it's time to hotlink it

HuffingtonPost, PoliticalWire and DailyKos are still my faves.

The word seems to be that Rove is selling out Scooter, so how much is Scooter going to take before he sells out Rove and company?????

[lala_rawraw]

147. Are you suggesting that I am not a stickler for facts?

Get a grip. And do me a favor, next time either you or yours actually do something original and brave, point me to it. But don't give me a hard time for hard work that I do and to which I put my name and credibility.

[symbolman]

150. You want facts?

I spent a year researching this subject and frankly a lot of what I've seen that is couched by you and yours as some kind of brilliant coup, my film "Rove's War" had much of what you brought up many times here, and I created it MONTHS ago, all still valid, a complete chronology, not bits and pieces doled out.

Insult me all you want, make claims that because I didn't mention TPM or others who I have tremendous respect for, who actually DO have inside information that isn't coming off a WaPost WIRE, then written about like it's brand new, is only more telling about your own style of Drudge Lite as many do call it.

For me not to mention these sites means that I don't respect them? I just love watching you tie TWO completely seperate subjects together and then use them as some kind of insult or scoop.. if you read your own postings you might notice the disparity of your arguements and accusations, it would be funny if it wasn't so constant. Straw men, Red Herrings abound.

That's just nutty, get a grip yourself if that's even possible.

[lala_rawraw]

148. By the way, I do think that Firedoglake is a good site...

Just fyi. The only experts on this are the journalists covering it: Waas, Leopold, Sale, etc. Don't confuse their hard work with speculation. It is not fair to them and don't think they are not frustrated by these comments. You cannot possibly equate someone speculating vs. someone actually reporting and think it will not make a stink, can you? Next Hurrah is an excellent Plame source, as are many sites that I admire, including Firedoglake. But It is really sad that you would downplay the work of one person in order to promote another person, who frankly, is not the heavy lifter in this case. As I have said, I like Firedoglake, but if you want an expert blog on this, Next Hurrah or Talkleft or Left Coaster or TPM would qualify as very on top of this and reporters that I mentioned (I won't presume to put me in the same category) are absolutely key in this. So have some respect for the hard work of people and stop with your insults and obsession with taking down anything I do. Really, are you not bored with yourself yet?

[Cleita]

85. Great, but does his track record as a lying POS

damage his credibility?

[PegDAC]

131. What credibility?

[Cleita]

141. My point exactly.n/t

[savemefromdumbya]

86. His indictment may be coming soooooooooon

[NNN0LHI]

88. I bet Libby is cooperating too. He who rats first laughs last n/t

[stepnw1f]

90. Rove Has Got to Be One of the Lowest Forms of Filth

this nation has ever seen. Because of this man and his Cabal, America is no longer the strongest countries in the World. Ans some are upset over Feingold's Censure Resolution.... WTF?

[Missy Vixen]

91. Good job, Larisa!

Personal to Karl Rove: You'd best not be messing with America's Hottest Prosecutor. You've finally managed to run afoul of someone MUCH smarter, more determined and much more ethical than you'll ever be.

Julie

[Catherine Vincent]

96. And how!

Keep the pressure up Fitz!

[johnnie]

95. Doesn't Rove remember what happens when you piss off Dick?

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/02/18/harrywhittington_wideweb__470x353,0.jpg

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

98. Why turn with a pardon in your pocket?

**horseshit**

[Gman]

99. Classic Prisoners' Dilemma case

They turn on each other in a heartbeat when presented with The Prisoners' Dilemma.

[Danieljay]

100. Bush should be held accountable either way.no matter WHOSEoffice it came

from.

If it was all Cheney, what the hell kind of President wouldn't know? In the REAL world Bush would be impeached by now. That being said, we left the real world some time ago.

None of this will matter.

[stop the bleeding]

108. Look what a little bird left me..... - Confirmation of Larisa's reporting

Here is another source that confirms Larisa's reporting, for some reason I can not paste the text into here, please go and read this.

March 27, 2006
Beneath the Surface on Plame Investigation: Rove and Libby in Deadly Dog Fight


This just hit the internet at Raw Story, and TWN has confirmed the essential points through a source close to Rove:

Read rest here:

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001310.php

[Catherine Vincent]

109. Kick!

For the little bird. :hi:

[leveymg]

111. KICK TO FRONT-PAGE THIS ONE. eom

:kick:

[David Zephyr]

116. I hope that Dickie and Lynne read this story. Ha!

Kicking it up.

[JohnnyLib]

118. Erosion is slow,

but steady. Drip, drip, drip.

[H2O Man]

120. Yep.

It's also important for folks to remember that Mr. Fitzgerald has worked on cases involving "organized crime," and they tend to take a long time. While many of us would like it to happen at a quicker pace, the prosecutor is doing things correctly.

[Disturbed]

121. "Bush should be held accountable."

Damn right! He will skate with plausible deniabilty unless a doc shows up which implicates him. Hell if he can publically announce that he has violated the FISA Law and skate this will be nothing.

The Bush Doctrine: "Above the Law and Unaccountable"

[FatDave]

119. A theory

Here's my theory: This is a plan to retain a republican white house in '08. Throw Cheney to the wolves, then move McCain in as VP. McCain then gets to run as incumbent in '08. We all know how McCain's been tossing Bush's salad, and this could be the reason.

On edit: If this is the plan, Cheney must not be playing ball with it, or he could have stepped aside "for health reasons". Maybe he didn't play ball and now must face Rove's wrath.

[Kare]

125. It could happen

Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

25th Amendment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

If thats what the plan is then they certainly could do it... as long as they do it soon enough.. If they waited too long to push Cheney out then the dems could have control of the house and vote that down.

Like I said before fatdave McCains lips are firmly applied to shrubs rear... but with shrubs poll numbers who in the house, in their right mind, would want just another bush taody?

Of course a lot of the people in the houses aren't in their right mind. :crazy:

[PegDAC]

132. Here is the line of succession

George W. Bush

Dick Cheney, Vice President
J. Dennis Hastert, Speaker of the House of Representatives
Ted Stevens, President pro tempore of the Senate
Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of State
John W. Snow, Secretary of the Treasury
Donald H. Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense
Alberto Gonzales, Attorney General
Gale Norton, Secretary of the Interior
Mike Johanns, Secretary of Agriculture
Carlos Gutierrez, Secretary of Commerce (ineligible due to not being a natural-born citizen of the U.S.)
Elaine Chao, Secretary of Labor (ineligible due to not being a natural-born citizen of the U.S.)
Michael Leavitt, Secretary of Health and Human Services
Alphonso Jackson, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
Norman Y. Mineta, Secretary of Transportation
Samuel W. Bodman, Secretary of Energy
Margaret Spellings, Secretary of Education
Jim Nicholson, Secretary of Veterans Affairs

Bush wants to insert Director of Homeland Security in there somewhere, but Chertoff is not a natural-born citizen, either.

They need to be taken out all at once.

[sofa king]

122. Aha! I was right!

Please indulge me in a moment of self-aggrandizing snootiness while I quote myself from a month ago:

"The timing of the release and my slimeball-sense says that Karl Rove is behind this. He's the only other guy in Washington who has the clout to take on Cheney."

But unfortunately I automatically lost whatever point I may have made by bringing up the Nazis. Oh well. I still get to say "I told you so." So there, I just did.

[kpete]

123. Might interest you

Is Karl Rove stabbing Cheney in the back?

http://timesonline.typepad.com/mick_smith/2006/03/is_karl_rove_st.html#more

[David Zephyr]

124. Thanks for the link, kpete.

Once again, Raw Story, may have the lead on this whole affair. I'm a fan.

[stop the bleeding]

128. Great article kpete!

K&R!

[lala_rawraw]

139. did you see the rest of what he wrote about DSM???

[bklyncowgirl]

126. ROSEMARY WOODS LIVES!

Seriously, I wonder who tried to scrub the e-mails. We know that Gonzales gave them a heads up and time to race to the shredders before the special prosecutor got on the case but did Cheney give the orders.

I sort of like the idea of Scooter and Dick hovering over a computer muttering "OK now how do you get rid of e-mails."

[jamesinca]

143. This says it all

"tipped off Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald to information that led to the recent "discovery" of 250 pages of missing email from the office of Vice President Dick Cheney."

They knew, and they were covering up! How could he have possibly given a tip on them if they were hardly know about, or so hidden, or not archived in the usual fashion or temporarily lost due to a computer glitch? As I heard before, they were lost to an archive glitch. How can Karl just amazingly produce them? If he is making them up to get Scooter off, Karl is toast. If he truly had access to them and knew just where to find them, how cooperative has the administration been? They should have stated up front, we lost a couple of hundred pages of e-mail due to computer malfunction or something like that. The last thing I wonder is this, how tight is the vice on Karls nuts to make him give up the e-mails? What is he getting in return?

[0007]

149. bttft