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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:53 PM
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FBI refuses to search Moussaoui's computer: from Truth is All, ca. 2004
I googled this subject, based on discussion at the current Octafish/BFEE, and found that BY FAR the best, most complete information on this subject, which should be getting much more media play than it is (what a surprise), and came up with this most excellent thread by our own Truth Is All

''Denial of Moussaoui FISA Warrant: The Smoking Gun?''
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1429777&mesg_id=1429777&listing_type=

this is beyond disgusting, and bears repeating, especially by the spineless ones who putatively represent those of our similar political affiliation

over fifty links, but less than ten responses, before it was archived.

again, WHY is this not getting any public airing?

FBI refuses to search Moussaoui's computer: from Truth is All, ca. 2004
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 06:00 PM
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1. sad....no response to maybe the key to bringing these jokers down
from the link

According to The Wall Street Journal, the FBI did not tell the White House about Moussaoui until after Sept. 11.

But it is a safe bet that the CIA's Tenet did. Even before learning about Moussaoui, Tenet's President's Daily Brief of Aug. 6 bore the title 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.' When analysts working in Tenet's Counterterrorist Center were warned about Moussaoui a few weeks before Sept. 11, it is inconceivable that they would not have told Tenet. He is, by law, 'the principal advisor to the president for intelligence matters related to national security,' and is entitled to 'all intelligence related to the national security, which is collected by any department, agency or other entity of the United States.'

Tenet's people learned about Moussaoui in a back-door message from the FBI Field Office in Minneapolis enlisting the CIA's help in obtaining information on Moussaoui from French intelligence. The French promptly pointed out Moussaoui's affiliations with radical fundamentalist groups and Osama bin Laden. (The French service had been keeping close tabs on the likes of Moussaoui, having foiled a plan by Algerian terrorists to crash an airplane into the Eiffel Tower in 1994.)<29>

This was not news to anybody who had read the Rowley Memo, but it really was newsworthy, because it came from someone closely associated with the Agency. And McGovern has been generous with his political capital on more recent occasions; he spoke at the 9/11/03 second anniversary events in New York, and though he concentrated his fire on the Neocons' Iraq fiasco, the event at which he spoke (the panel, the agenda, the literature in the lobby, the subjects of the other talks, even the date of the event) was entirely focused on 9/11.<30> Even if Mr. McGovern had adjusted his tie and quietly recited the alphabet, there would still be heavy symbolism in the sight of an ex-CIA analyst seated on a dias with Mike Ruppert, John Judge, Kyle Hence, and Cynthia McKinney.<31> The sight of McGovern on the stage was more significant than anything he was at liberty to say.


along with the latest revelations in court, if the media were paying any attention to this aspect of the case, maybe there'd be the beginnings of some public outcry, but it's getting zero attention, even here

WTF?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:25 PM
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2. wtf is the MATTER with you people? here's Coleen Rowley on this
2005-12-26 07:22

This last week, we learned President Bush secretly ordered the National Security Agency to conduct a domestic spy program that entails no judicial oversight. In defense of this controversial program, a number of Republicans rely upon the case of Zacarias Moussaoui as justification for Bush’s attack on our privacy and civil liberties.

Moussaoui is the only individual to be charged in connection with the 9-11 attacks and has pled guilty but is fighting the death penalty. He contends that he was not directly involved with the attacks on 9-11, but was instead to participate in a second-wave attack. He awaits a "death penalty phase" hearing. Although detained on immigration charges since August 16, 2001, the FBI failed to sufficiently investigate Moussaoui pre 9-11. If searches of his personal effects and laptop had been authorized, Moussaoui's connections to the 9-11 hijackings may have emerged and it is possible that 9-11 could have been prevented.

Republican commentators such as William Kristol and Rush Limbaugh claim FISA procedures, and the legal impediments they impose, prevented FBI agents from acting. Consequently, they maintain President Bush is justified in abrogating FISA law to order the NSA to eavesdrop on Americans.

As legal counsel to the Minneapolis FBI Division and witness to the entire Moussaoui case, I can tell you that these assertions are not just factually wrong, they miss the real problems that existed within our intelligence gathering superstructure. I wrote a 13 page memo and testified before Congress on these very failures. Yet, some individuals continue to misapply and misrepresent what I said.


the rest follows
http://www.coleenrowley.com/blog/index.php

if this doesn't make you crazy, nothing will

scroll down about halfway at the site
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:09 PM
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4. blobloblobloblob
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 08:31 PM
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3. ok....last time for today
this thread shall not DIE!

long live Truth is All...is he OK?
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:22 PM
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5. I will gladly kick a Truth is All thread.
:kick:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:24 PM
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6. thanks! wonder why no interest in this....
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 09:50 AM
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7. Needs another go-round...
:kick:
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