Dear US soldiers, the ALMOST 90% who still think Iraq did 911...

[LynnTheDem]

Almost 90% think war is retaliation for Saddam’s role in 9/11
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075

So how do you feel now, after hearing bush's little speech last week, denying he EVER tied Iraq to the 911 attacks?

george w bush, March 20, 2006;

"First, just if I might correct a misperception, I don’t think we ever said – at least I know I didn’t say that there was a direct connection between September the 11th and Saddam Hussein."
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060320-7.html

What you soldiers most obviously don't know, is that BUSH, RICE, POWELL, RUMSFELD, WOLFOWITZ...ALL of them have admitted previously that Iraq had NOTHING to do with the 911 attacks;

"We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the 11 September attacks," Mr Bush told reporters as he met members of Congress on energy legislation.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3118262.stm

2003; Rice: U.S. Never Said Saddam Was Behind 9/11
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/983821/posts

- Rumsfeld sees no link between Saddam Hussein, 9/11
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-09-16-rumsfeld-iraq-911_x.htm

Wolfowitz: Iraq Was Not Involved In 9-11 Terrorist Attacks, No Ties To Al-Qaeda
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4372.htm

"To my knowledge, I have not seen any strong, hard evidence that links the two."
-Rumsfeld, Monday, October 4, 2004
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,10975887%255E1702,00.html

Senior U.S. officials now say there never was any evidence that Saddam's secular police state and Osama bin Laden's Islamic terrorism network were in league.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0303-01.htm

No proof links Iraq, al-Qaida, Colin Powell says
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/ID/3909150

Want more links? There's lots more;
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/LynnTheDem/4

You've been conned, dear US soldiers. LIED to. By your CINC. How're you feeling now?

Betrayed?

You were.

Almost 90% think war is retaliation for Saddam’s role in 9/11
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075

And almost 2400 of your brothers and sisters in arms are DEAD...in "retaliation for Saddam's role in 911"...the role he never had.

BETRAYED.

[fooj]

1. Big time.

:grr:

[orleans]

2. unfreakin real, aint it?

recommended. great post.

[SeattleGirl]

3. The worst kind of betrayed.

So many of our military have paid the ultimate price for a damned pack of lies. Were I a member of the military, there would be no words to describe the anger I'd feel at this pResident and his cabal.

[NNN0LHI]

4. I got my fingers in my ears. Nah, nah, nah, nah. I can't hear you

Fox news says Osama and Saddam were buds from way back and Fox news never lies...much.

Don

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. Soldiers aren't given access to DU, so they won't see this.

Thus the 90% figure.

[LynnTheDem]

7. Yes they do; my hubby and most his unit read DU.

In Iraq.

:)

[ClayZ]

13. I am glad to see that! I hope they read IAVA, too!

http://www.optruth.org/index.php

Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America is the nation's first and largest group dedicated to the Troops and Veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the civilian supporters of those Troops and Veterans.




Are they limited to which news they can watch?

[GrumpyGreg]

6. God almighty,it makes me sick.

[LynnTheDem]

8. Imagine sitting at home like you are now...with both legs blown off.

You thought you were "at war" in "retaliation for Saddam's role in 911".

And then you find out the TRUTH.

No, I don't detest that motherfucker bush because he's a republican. I detest that motherfucker bush because he betrayed our soldiers and caused their deaths. For his "political capital".

If YOU don't detest that motherfucker bush, YOU have a serious personality defect.

(royal "you", Grumpy, not you you!)

[RagAss]

30. Agreed Lynn....so goes my sig line.....

[liveoaktx]

9. I found one more today (VIDEO) while looking at Bush's Jan 31 03

press conference, the one with he and Blair.

He said he never made the claim there was a link between Saddam and 9/11

[LynnTheDem]

10. That's in my DU journal, along with a ton more.

Betrayed.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/LynnTheDem/4

[mmonk]

11. I really think most know by now.

They were used but what are they to do? It all about protecting yourself and your buddies now. That's what it always comes down to in the end.

[Harper_is_Bush]

12. Title misrepresents the poll. 90% don't think Iraq did 9/11...

90% think the war was a retaliation for his role.

I see an important difference.

[Tom Bombadil]

15. I don't draw too much

of a distinction between the two.

The point is: neither statement is true; Saddam played NO role in 9/11, and Iraq did NOT do 9/11.

Worryingly, 90% of US soldiers are either ignorant or misinformed. Why would that be then? Watching too much Fox News Channel I suspect.

[Harper_is_Bush]

29. I believe you and others here are misinterpreting the poll.

The 90% don't believe Saddam had a role, they believe the war was started by Bush as retaliation for the role he implied Saddam had.

[Tom Bombadil]

38. So by your reasoning,

and based on the premise that Saddam had no role in 9/11 - are you suggesting that 90% of the soldiers are fighting a war that they know is based on an implied falsehood?

[Harper_is_Bush]

42. Well done. Very well put, but I"m not saying all 90%....

You hit the nail on the head with your description of an "implied falsehood" that the soldiers are thinking caused the war, but not all 90%.

I'm saying that a portion of that 90% are fighting a war that they know is based on an implied falsehood.

I'm sure some of them (maybe less than 50% of that 90%) think that Saddam had something to do with 9/11.

I think the rest answered the poll in the afermative with the understanding that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.

[LynnTheDem]

17. retaliation for his role

retaliation for his role

WHAT ROLE.

[glitch]

26. The role of being another of Osama's enemies?

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy (if his country has oil).

[Harper_is_Bush]

28. It does not say the soldiers believe Saddam had a role

it says the soldiers believe the war was retaliation for his role. I would have answered the same, because I think it was retaliation for 9/11.

Don't accuse me of believing he had a role in 9/11 though, k?

[LynnTheDem]

32. If they think the war is "retaliation for Saddam's role in 911"

then they must think Saddam HAD a role in 911.

They don't say "in retaliation for 911"...they say in retaliation for SADDAM'S ROLE in 911".

[Harper_is_Bush]

33. No.

You can believe someone is retaliating FOR something, yet still understand that the retaliation is unfounded because that something isn't true.

[LynnTheDem]

34. But that is not what they said,

But hey, whatever. :shrug:

[Harper_is_Bush]

35. They didn't say anything.

It was a poll question.

I'm telling you how I honestly would have deciphered the question if I was asked, and that's exactly how I'm sure many of those soldiers interpreted it.

If a soldier believed that Bush went to war because of 9/11, yet also believed Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, how would he answer the poll question?
With "yes", of course. He would say yes, I think it was for retaliation. The meat/0main part of the question boiled down is "was it retaliation?" rather than "was Saddam involved in 9/11?"

[radfringe]

14. READ THIS

Strangers to the Truth
By Joel Bleifuss
March 27, 2006
http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2563

The GOP (Grand Old Prevaricators), who brought you the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth in 2004, have been test-marketing another TV ad campaign.

The fabrication this time: the war in Iraq. The target: any Democratic candidate who speaks out against the U.S. mission during the mid-term elections. The venue for the test is Minnesota.

Two ads have run so far. Both have caused a furor.

The first ad featured footage of the World Trade Center burning and testimony from soldiers who have fought in Iraq. Lt. Col. Robert Stephenson of the U.S. Marine Corps Reserves, tells viewers: “You’d never know it from news reports but our enemy in Iraq is al Qaeda, the same terrorists who killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11.” And Capt. Mark Weber of the U.S. Army Reserve ominously asks: “Where do you want to fight terrorists? We want to fight them and destroy them in Iraq.”

[LynnTheDem]

18. Stupid MFers. Stupid ignorant MFers.

How did so many Americans come to be so deeply ignorant???

[baby_mouse]

23. Mm. Maybe they want to be? NT

[w8liftinglady]

16. Why do you think most of them come back mind-f#cked?

My kid did the rah-rah Bush thing the first time he went to Iraq.After the second time,he has done a 180-degree turn.i know he feels betrayed.Remember,when these kids are in-country,they don't have time or access to TV a lot of time.my son did 12-18 hour days/seven days a week.

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[WinkyDink]

20. And still, those WVa military families applauded and THANKED GOD for BUSH!

It's hard to feel for them.

[Hubert Flottz]

27. There are soldiers and then there are lifer asskissers!

What you saw wasn't regular soldiers I don't hardly think. The soldiers I've talked to think the war SUCKS and so does BushCo. The ones I've chatted with are fed up to a man, with the lies!

[RagAss]

31. Feel what? ... they chose their life and direction..

and I chose mine....I wish them luck and I don't give a mother-fuck what they wish on me....

[spanone]

22. So why are our soldiers dying in Iraq????

Because Bush* & Cheney wanted to invade Iraq from day ONE.

[Festivito]

24. 90%, 90%! Outrageous! /nt

[RedEarth]

25. Good post......thanks

[countryjake]

36. Thanky for the research & info!

Bookmarking

[Disturbed]

37. So why are our soldiers dying in Iraq????

"The terrorists want to control the oil. Our way of life will be at risk". George W. Bush (Nov. 2005)

[LynnTheDem]

39. Coz BUSH LIED them there.

[LynnTheDem]

40. Why are they the STUPIDEST MFers on the planet??? Coz they think

this OP is "filth aimed at US soldiers".

Ummm NOyou stupid MFers.

YOU stupid MFers don't give a shit about US troops WRONGFULLY believing they're killing & being killed in Iraq coz of "Saddam's role in 911"; it's YOU stupid MFers who don't give a shit about our troops. BUSH UBER ALLES!

Stupidest MFers ever.

[SPKrazy]

41. Ummm, never mind

i've re-read your post now twice and i get it

[0007]

43. bttft