I've said it before - They're capable of doing anything to hold onto power

[Postman]

with the recent revelations of the latest "memo" regarding Bush and Blair's' meeting on how they were trying to figure out how to bamboozle the people into going to war in Iraq....

and Bush's poll numbers sinking faster than the Titanic, with the "war" in Iraq becoming obvious to more and more people as an absolute failure (and to many as outright aggression), with the Taliban regaining ground in Afghanistan....

These criminals are capable of doing anything TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE to retain power.

Operation Northwoods (look it up), the domestic version may be in the works.

They are criminals beyond belief.

[wakeme2008]

1. The real troubling part will be the winner of the 2008 election and

what Bush does. IMHO...

Scenario 1 Repug Wins the WH.

IMHO Bush will have to give up the WH to the repug or the repugs will kill him.

Scenario 2 Dem Wins the WH.

that is what I am afraid of and Bush reaction to it. IMHO he is crazy enough to do anything.....

[cali]

3. Sorry, that's just

absurd. There are practically no scenarios imaginable in which bush can hold on to power after the 2008 elections. I mean really what's he gonna do? Set off a nuke in a major city? Scream and yell and pound his heels on the Oval Office carpet?

[liberal N proud]

5. You may be surprised at what they will do.

He is after all, a spoiled little brat

[ladjf]

9. Cali, you must mean no LEGAL scenarios in which Bush could

hold on to power.If he felt that he could pull it off, he would simply refuse to step down. If the military, Congress and the Supreme Court sided with him, who would make him leave office? They could simply declare for security reasons there could be succession of Presidents until things "settle down".

This is likely. But, to me, it's easily imaginable.

[liberal N proud]

2. They are subscribers to the principles of Niccolo Machiavelli

Niccolo Machiavelli (1469-1527)

"I have composed a little work On principalities; there I plunge as deeply as I can into this subject, discussing what a principality is, what kinds there are, how they are acquired. how they are maintained, why they are lost."
For Machiavelli, Florence was the object of his patrioism, and which he tried to serve with single minded devotion. Unfortunately for him, the days of Floretine greatness were largely past when he reached maturity. Two years after the death of Lorenzo de Medici in 1492, the French invaded Italy and in the ensuring struggles between great powers, Florence was reduced from a first rate Italian power to a second rate power dominated by Spain. The Florentine Republic for which he worked as a high level civil servant was swept away in 1512 leaving him unemployed.

The Prince embodies Machiavelli's response to the Italian crisis of disunity and foreign domination. Out of its pages, as George Bull put it in his introduction to the work, "strides the figure of the autocrat, the new man, ruthless, efficient, and defiant, the literary forerunner of the new monarchs of the sixteenth century."

Machiavelli's aim in the Prince is to tell the new rulers how to remain in power once they have gained it. The best way is to rule well. If this is not possible, then Machiavelli presents a variety of strategems for remaining in power. It is these which have given us the adjective "Machiavellian."

http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl302/philosophers/machaivelli.html

[Chimichurri]

4. Plus if the dems regain the House and the Senate, this cabal

will be going to jail. I agree - they have no regard for life whatsoever and will do anything to remain in power.

[FloridaPat]

8. The Reagan cabal never went to jail. I heard several Democrats

say the just let him ride off into the sunset. I'm sure they'll talk about what's "good for the country" and how they can't make a case with all the pardoning * is going to do if he really does get out of office in 2008.

[ladjf]

10. They were petty thieves compared to the Bushco.

[okieinpain]

11. come on, he's not that bad. he will leave quietly.

[CJCRANE]

6. If you look at *

from the point of view of being jealous of his royal ME oil buddies and wanting to be like them (i.e. absolute power over a pseudo-theocratic nation of have-mores and have-nots) then the things he does will start to make sense.

[INdemo]

7. to go along with this ,here is some interesting reading

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ToA/ToA.html#TOC
This explains about the Power Control Group in Washington which existed then and probably still does. There are references to back up these writings.