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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:01 AM Original message |
Illegal Immigrants and Taxes. A Question |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. Unless we go to the "fair" tax, sales tax is a drop in the bucket |
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400Years (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. also, they can't file and yet would be eligible for a return |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Yeah, but if they are illegal aliens |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:26 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. So basically you will use the 'tax burden' argument |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:34 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Well my actual position |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:52 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. fair enough |
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400Years (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
2. many pay into social security and will never use it |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. correct! HOWEVER there was talk with Vincente Fox to send a lot |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. How in the world does that happen |
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Debau2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:11 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. I was a welfare social worker |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Either you use a SSN that is not in active use. |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
34. Many deadbeat dads do this too... |
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bluethruandthru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
18. I heard an IRS agent on Ed Schultz say |
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jedicord (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
20. It simply doesn't pay to investigate a bogus SSN. |
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Debau2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
6. I know of an undocumented worker |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. I made a mistake on my tax return |
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Debau2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:26 AM Response to Reply #15 |
26. I don't know how |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
7. I'll try: |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Income tax and SS are automatically withheld from wages. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:16 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. That's the part I was missing. |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
8. Remember "Coneheads"? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
9. Don't forget the sales taxes, user fees, etc. |
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old_techie (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
28. bogus SSN's |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:54 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. No benefit to the revenuers. |
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Minnesota Libra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
11. From what I've been told by illegal aliens themselves, they may........... |
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oneold1-4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
14. Truths of lying and cheating |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
16. Lots of illegals are paid under the table |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:22 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. If the school system is funded via property taxes |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:27 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. But when you have 10 people in one house, do you really think |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:49 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Gee golly that is the way property taxes work illegal or not. |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Then why don't we go after the companies |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:38 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Going after the companies is exactly |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
21. They wouldn't be paying income tax at all |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
23. This is the crux of our problem.. |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:34 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Also would like to add |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 02:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Absolutely... |
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jarab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
31. My only experience with the illegal immigrant tax issue .... |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:41 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. And how far do the property taxes go in |
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jarab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 09:56 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. The other issues are relevant, of course. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-28-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. It is a vicious cycle. |
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