The Ethics of a 7 Year old.

[ScreamingMeemie]

Interesting that seawolf brought up the ethics question. Yesterday my son and I were at Kroger. I decided to use the U-scan express (anyone else think our groceries should automatically be reduced 10% because we ring them ourselves?). As I was scanning our items, my son said,"Mom, there's money in the 'thing'." The "thing" being the change return. I looked down and sure enough, there was a dollar bill in the change return. My son picked it up and said,"Can I go and give it to the cashier?" He gave it to the cashier and she looked at him like he was brain damaged. "Why did he give this to me?" "Because it's not his." "Who cares?" "Quite possibly the person who left it.


Reason for this story? It never occurred to my son to question the finances of the person who left it and whether they would miss it or not. He returned it because it wasn't his. Finding it didn't make it any more his.

I will say I find it rather disturbing that people would question the honesty of the answers in seawolf's thread. I would be willing to wager, throughout humankind, more people would return something of monetary value if found than would keep it. Call me naive.


And...thanks seawolf, for getting my mind of immigration for awhile.

[Orrex]

1. Can you point me to SeaWolf's thread?

Bravo to your son, by the way!

[ScreamingMeemie]

2. Sure!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=781628&mesg_id=781628

He's a great kid, but I do believe most kids would do the same thing.

[Richardo]

3. I won't call you naive but I will call you a great mom...

...you and MrG are raising a great human being. :patriot:

[mitchum]

4. Using the U-Scan express is another way to undermine the workforce

Please do not use it anymore
Bravo to your son, though

[Orrex]

8. A worthy goal, but tough to implement

When there's one cashier open, four U-Scan lanes open, and twenty customers checking out (as is often the case where I live), it's a hard-sell to convince anyone that it's better to wait twenty minutes to buy a box of cereal when a 10-second alternative is available.

[mitchum]

10. Well, perhaps when we all go to hell in a handbasket...

there may not be room for that box of cereal in said handbasket

[Orrex]

12. If we do go to hell in a hand-basket, it won't be because I used the U-Scan

Grocery stores take in many thousands of dollars per day. My choice to use or not use a U-Scan for my $40 worth of groceries will make no difference to them, which is why I have little fondness for boycott-calls of this kind. They're noble in purpose but of little demonstrable value beyond whatever symbolic worth one finds in them.

If one wishes to argue that case effectively, it must be shown that the convenience afforded by the U-Scan aisles is outweighed by the deteriment to the workforce, and it's necessary to provide concrete, accessible evidence that this is so.

For what it's worth, I believe you, but even if you can convince the average consumer that U-Scan aisles are bad, how can you convince the grocery stores themselves of this?

[mitchum]

16. It's impossible to convince the grocery stores that they are bad...

because in their view, nothing that maximizes profits can be bad.
On the bright side, it is much easier to monkey wrench an unattended register than one manned by a paid worker. Not that I'm advocating SABOTAGE, mind you...

[Warpy]

9. I flatly refuse to use those things

and the new owners of the market near me have removed the one in that store in favor of a quickie checkout for small purchases.

I'd rather wait in a long line of fuming people with full carts than use one of those things.

I made the mistake of using ATMs when they first came out, and now banks rarely have more than 1/3 of their teller stations open when they used to be pretty fully staffed.

I'm not contributing to the mechanization that's driving people out of the few jobs that will remain in the US after offshoring fever runs its course.

Enough!

[mitchum]

11. You get it!

Just like you, I will not be complicit in the corporate move to eliminate jobs.
I see no difference between using one of those things and crossing a picket line.

[pitohui]

5. the ethics of multiple threads

i have no idea of who seawolf is or what you're talking abt

might i meekly suggest that people put their thoughts in the thread to which they are responding instead of starting a new thread?


this would also help out w. the issue of 9 brazillian immigration threads, in my humble opinion mods should combine duplicate threads, as they do so ably in the LBN forum and perhaps it would not be over the top to suggest a quiet removal of threads posted by repeated offenders of quintiplicate topics

don't want to aim this at you particularly, just that it pops right up on top and yet is essentially of no value because i have no idea where the discussion is that you're participating in

thanks for considering this anyway

at the very least, if we are only allowed to have one topic on a page and GD must be spammed by multiple threads on the single topic of the day known only in advance to the "cool kids" TM then please please PLEASE put a link to the other thread you're discussing in the follow-up threads so a person who is not part of the "in" crowd might be allowed some idea of what you're talking abt

[ScreamingMeemie]

7. I really don't care for the opinions of a person who always appears to

have a problem with whatever it is I post. I will post what I wish, as others have told me they will when I have problems with "the way people post". Clue phone is ringing to use a tired cliche'...it's for you...and they're saying: Internet message board people are allowed to post what they want. Bye pitohui.

One last thing, this thread could stand on it's own here without the reference to another thread.

[Richardo]

17. I was posting this very sentiment when I was interrupted by my boss

Lousy full-time job.

You said it better than I, MrsG!

[ScreamingMeemie]

19. This poster has openly called me a liar at times with nothing to go on,

and apparently will always align themselves at direct opposites from me. I guess you can't be friends with everyone. :)

[nini]

13. "might i meekly suggest" WTF??!

If that's meek then I'd hate to see you being aggressive.

Wow... are you aware of the hide threads function here? I suggest you use instead of being snarky about someone's thread. I've seen this attitude from you before and I really don't understand why you feel it necessary to belittle others in this manner. Life it too short for you to be so annoyed. Use the hide feature so you're not so bothered by other's thoughts.

[Dora]

15. WTH does your notion of an "'in' crowd" have to do with anything?

Jeebus, Pitohui! What a post from you! I was aware of the ethics thread that the OP referenced, but I'm not "in" any kind of "crowd."

If a post inspires a DUer to post another independent thread on a different topic, no rule says there's any sort of obligation to provide a link to the thread that inspired them in the first place.

If you're curious to see the inspiring thread, please use the search button. You do have a star, doncha?

[Beware the Beast Man]

20. Get your own damn message board, then.

:thumbsdown:

[greatauntoftriplets]

21. Get up on the wrong side of the bed today???

Jeez, that was uncalled for.

[bigwillq]

6. You clearly raised that boy well!

:hi: :hug:

Nice story, Mrs. G! :hug:


Do you have a link from the seawolf thread?

[ScreamingMeemie]

23. Thank you Will. Sometimes I think he is a good kid in spite of me.

:) :hug: here is the link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=781628&mesg_id=781628

[bigwillq]

27. I found the link.

Thank you.

[nini]

14. I'm not surprised.. you're a good mom

:loveya:


The stupid cashier lady needs a lesson in ethics - that's for sure.

[ScreamingMeemie]

24. Thank you nini.

:loveya:

Cashiers, many times, appear to just need to have a problem with something that we do. :)

[IdaBriggs]

18. Three cheers for your son *and* YOU! Well done!

You have obviously been raising that child well! And he is obviously already an incredible young person!

:yourock: :toast: :yourock:

[ScreamingMeemie]

25. Thanks Ida...

He is a really good kid. I am proud of him. :)

[Katherine Brengle]

22. You and your son get a major high five from this mommy!

I, for one, and really proud of him for that, and of you for teaching him so well.

(I gotta see that other thread, very curious now...)

[ScreamingMeemie]

26. Thank you Katherine.

It just is sad that we, as a society, seem to be more open to believing the worst in each other (as other posts in this thread illustrate).