OMG! I hope so much the Repugs run George Allen...what a dim Bulb!

[KoKo]

His hair alone is a "giveaway." He's on Matthews now saying his Mother is from TUNISIA...and can speak a little Arabic.....She had a "DIM SON" I'm not blaiming her for this "bad seed" but sheesh...you couldn't have Dems have a better "porch light off" than this guy.

I can barely listen to him he's so ignorant. How did he get where he IS? The Young Republicans who move along the Dufuses who can be Manipulated by the Christian Right and the Globalists/Corporatists.

Let's all support George Allen...Talk him up as the Next Best THING since sliced WHITE BREAD...The idiot just HAS TO RUN!!! :rofl: Even our weakest Dem could make mincemeat of this idiot flying turkey.

[Poor Richard Lex]

1. George Allen is a TOOL

After his sorry attempt at governor, he gets elected to the Senate from Virginia. I don't understand how anyone could vote for him after hearing him talk. The man is probably dumber than the chimperor. Perfect republican, in other words.

[Ignacio Upton]

8. Two words: Chuck Robb

Robb only narrowly defeated OLIVER NORTH in his previous re-election in 1994, and was tainted by charges of having an affiar, and allegedly listened to illegally-recorded cell phone conversations of Doug Wilder, as well as cocaine allegations. Robb actually wasn't that bad, ideologically. Even though he was a founding member of the DLC, he di support Clinton's call for allowing gays in the military, and voted AGAINST the DOMA in 1996, while even Paul Wellstone voted for it. The only bad vote, at least according to Wikipedia, was that he voted in favor of Clarence Thomas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Robb

[KoKo]

12. Thanks for the "local politics" insight on this with Chuck Robb...

I didn't know this and it's something we need to know.

[Ignacio Upton]

16. Thanks, and I don't even live in Virginia!

From a friendly New Yorker :hi: :hi:

[Marie26]

45. Two more words: "Jeffersonian conservative"

He repeats this over & over on his web-site. :rofl: Yes, please nominate George Allen! He can make Dan Quayle look like Mensa material.

[davidwparker]

2. Deja Vu.

"Even our weakest Dem could make mincemeat of this idiot flying turkey."

Didn't that play out in 2004?

[npincus]

3. Chimp is the dimmest of bulbs and he's a 2- Termer!

I'm rooting for Frist myself. We'll eat him alive.

[PaDem]

4. Many expressed similar sentiments with regards to.......

the clown in the White House now. Granted Bush probably had more money than Allen will ever have and a better team around him. To underestimate George Allen would be to overestimate the intelligence of the electorate.

[abluelady]

5. You are right. It's very scary. eom

[KoKo]

13. "overestimating the intelligence of the electorate.." ...Sad.. isn't it..

:-(

[MountainLaurel]

24. My first thought, precisely

I remember seeing Bush next to McCain and thinking "Who the hell would vote for this guy? He's PROUD of the fact that he's never been outside the United States. How can he be president?"

Christ, was I ever proven wrong.

[Poiuyt]

6. How is Matthews treating him?

I hope he's not gushing over him like he does with McCain

[KoKo]

22. Drunken Chris seems to find Allen ....amusing....

This is only my view...but Tweety has him on ALOT! and everytime...he seems to "bait him" playing up to Allen's idiocy.

But...considering that I think Tweety is the dimmest bulb and an Idiot Himself for sniffing Bushies "Codpiece" on the Aircraft Carrier and his "Bullhorn Moment" at WTC, at every opportunity...I might just be a teeny bit biased against Matthews. Matthews thinks he's "oh so clever" at playing "both sides against the middle" like his cohorts Isikoff and Feinman from Newsweek which is part and parcel of MSNBC/NBC Corporate...but at some point Tweety's drinking and his soul in turmoil are going to cause an IMPLOSION...it might be long after we are stuck with another Repug P-Resident because of lazy ignorant American viewers...but it will come.

Maybe when George Allen is another Dufus P-Resident and the PNAC/NEOCONS have installed another one....I don't know...but it's sickening...:puke:

[Norquist Nemesis]

38. Matthews said a few nights ago that Allen's his pick

to win the 2008 nomination. :puke:

I missed the Allen segment. I tuned in last night just long enough to hear Matthews chortle how he "thinks it's funny" (funny ha ha) that the Democrats have come out with a National Security Plan. His 'teaser' going into it was something like, "five years after 9/11, two years after the defeat of Kerry in 2004, and eight months before an election, the Democrats FINALLY have a plan!"

Pissed me off to no end! Turned to Wolfie...which wasn't much better.

[0007]

7. Mrs. Allen sez that he ain't real finicky about what he eats as long

as it fried and there's plenty of it. And he picks up most of his toe nail clippings and it was fairly hard to break George from blowin' his nose at the dinner table on a slice of bread.

[Ignacio Upton]

9. Ewwwww!

:puke:

[KoKo]

23. ROFL...he looks like that "kind of guy" to me, too!

:D

[napi21]

10. You are AGAIN underestimating the power of the fundies!

Allen is probably THEIR strongest candidate! He's ALWAYS talking aobut God and his faith, and how he wants to bring values back to the US!

I'm not quite sure yet who would be the easiest Pub candidat to run against. I'm still leaning to McCain. He had a LOT of support in 2000, and I think HE also could have won, and probably bigger than Shrub! But the RNC decided it "wasn't his turn!"

Because he's cozied up to Shrub sooo much in the last year or so, he's lost all the support of independants, moderate Dems, and some moderate Pugs.

I'm thinking he's aligned himself so close to Shrub, he's killed his own possibility to win a National election!

[AndyTiedye]

11. Be Careful What You Wish For. He Might "Win"

Being a stupid git is no problem.
How do you think *W* got to be pResident?

[Warpy]

14. That's what we said about the idiot in the White House now

that he was so fucking dumb that people would just have to notice. Well, we didn't count on a thoroughly corrupt and lying corporate press and an illegally overturned election to get him in there, did we? We didn't count on having the DLC fuck up the campaigns of two good men to make the races close enough to steal, did we?

Careful what you wish for. You just might get it. Again.

[KoKo]

25. I KNOW!!!! But, Geeze I hope with us out here on the Internet Strong

and organized and some folks in our States Organized that the Repugs would really be sweating it. George Allen is Dufus without his birthright. Let's hope they RUN HIM..figuring how dumb their electorate is at this point. The smart Repugs are already "running for the hills" and yet they push this ASS.

I think it's the Repugs best bet to confuse their Right Wing Rundies who've supported them forever and turn it over to their TRUE HOPE which is Mitt Romney...which they think their "Corporatists/Globalists" will salivate over when he's contrasted with McCain and Allen.

Their heart really wants McCain because he's fusing himself with Falwell and acting just like a TRUE BUSHIE...but McCain is ROUGH whereas Romney is Snakelike Smooth.

Maybe THE Repugs are going for "McCain/Romney" ticket. It would be PERFECT WOULDN'T IT....Get Allen out of the way early but give the Fundies McCain who has moved so far right he's going to announce soon that Women need to wear "Appropriate Clothing" and "Abstain from Sex Before Marriage." McCain is backtraking so fast that our heads could spin...but he's a TOUGH GUY...TORTURED IN VIETNAM...AND ALLOWED THE CHIMP TO GUT HIS "supposed" ANTI-Torture BILL. What does that say about "Yellow Streak McCain." :puke:

[countingbluecars]

15. Don't underestimate Allen's

ability to get votes. He refers to himself as a "Jeffersonian Republican" and his supporters compare him to Reagan. Also, the fundies love him.

[Olney Blue]

17. The dumbest thing Allen said was that Thomas Jefferson

would likely not support gay marriage.

[KoKo]

27. OMG....that sounds just like one of his idiot statements..........

Sheesh...

[The_Casual_Observer]

18. Father was NFL football coach. He was brought up in So Cal

(Palos Verdes Estates) after a failed football "career" at UCLA, moved on to Virginia for law school, reinvented himself as a southerner, was governor and now senator. There must be a very big push by gop heavy hitters to foist the bastard into the national arena. He is a particularly stupid, vacant ass.

[Ignacio Upton]

19. Didn't a DUer go to high school with him?

He claimed that Allen got in trouble for racist actions, but I can't remember what.

[The_Casual_Observer]

20. Yes, at least 2 of us did.

There were a number of things.

[PaDem]

28. Can you throw us a few bones?

Maybe a couple of anecdotes?

[The_Casual_Observer]

31. See post 30 for a short one.

[KoKo]

29. Okay...fess up...give us the scoop. Did he dye his hair way back then?

Was he a "blonde" but felt he would be called a sissy...so he dyed it red brown with Clairol? Did he hide in the locker room worrying that folks were looking at his "parts?"

Come on Fess up. I know I sound cruel about him...but I also know there are many who want to RUN HIM! Do we need another DUFUS IDIOT?

Or, did he become "brain dead" when he joined the Young Republicans? :shrug:

Inquiring DU'ers need the scoop...what did you know of him. ???

[The_Casual_Observer]

30. Okay, anyone who attended Palos Verdes High School in the fall

of 1969 knows this one. This is probably the most memorable and ultimately humorous one.

Allen was the quarterback of the football team. On the night before a game against a predominately black high school Morningside High (They were the Monarchs), Allen, who was sort of ahead of Charles Manson on this, attempted to stir up some kind of half ass race riot by "decorating" a number of the walls around PV High with ridiculous spray painted graffiti with racial themes such as "Fuck Rich Whitey" and so on. These were large, numerous, and needless to say, even for Allen, stupid.

This turned out not to be the perfect crime however, since Allen somehow misspelled "Monarchs" on a particularly prominent "tag" near the front of the main office area. The spelling goof, along with his generally well known disdain of blacks solved the "who done it" immediately. Faced with the evidence he confessed and was forced to make a public apology that afternoon over the school PA. Allen lost the game. He was a shitty QB. They didn't make it to CIF.

In 1969 young Southern Californians were really not disposed to hating blacks. So Allen's rather outspoken and weird behavior was notorious around there.

[Ignacio Upton]

36. Have you two thought about telling the media this?

I don't think that Webb could come out and directly run an ad featuring this (he'll be accused of swiftboating Allen, even though Allen is a low-life scum) but having the story out there in the press could work against him in both his Senate race and in 2008. At least with Bush he doesn't have a story showcasing his stupidity as blatantly as Allen (coke and AWOL may be detrimental but the MSM hasn't done a good job reporting those incidents.)

[LibDemAlways]

37. I'll pipe in here. I have

been in touch with a Virginia-based reporter and a reporter for Salon.com. I have told them what I remember.

The problem is that the graffiti was quickly covered over. There were no pictures taken of it, or, if there were, they didn't make the school newspaper. There was no publicity in local newspapers at the time. Allen's father was a prominent man in the community, and the school was not about to embarrass him.

So, unless more classmates come forward willing to talk about this, Allen can just deny the facts of it. The reporter from Virginia told me Allen has been asked about it and he laughed it off as a "boyhood prank." Both reporters have yearbook photos of Allen and names of other classmates. Whether those people will go on the record about this is guesswork for now.

The Salon.com guy asked me specifically if I had talked with the Washington Post. He said someone there was tracking down a "rumor" that Allen had participated in this.

Of course there's the elephant in the room, also. Even if every person who was there came forward, would the corporate whores run with the story? I doubt it.

[Ignacio Upton]

42. Well in fairness, it was something he did in high school

What he did was stupid, and judging by how he acts today it's reflective of his personality. Howrver, a lot of people have done things in high school and college that can hurt them later on in politics. I don't think that I'll ever run for elective office for that reason.

[LibDemAlways]

43. I agree with you that it happened a long

time ago. However, it wasn't just some harmless prank like TPing an opposing team's school or something like that. It was a deliberate attempt to stir up the racial pot and provoke black kids into a fight. And, it was vandalism. Today it would probably be termed a hate crime.

This is the same guy who kept a noose in his law office before he went into politics. There's a pattern here.

[LibDemAlways]

33. The Casual Observer and I both went to HS with

Allen. I was in his 1970 graduating class, and can attest that everything TCO has written about the ass is true.

As for his hair, it was always dark. He wore it in sort of a short Prince Valiant style - if that makes sense.

He was dumb, and even back then he was a liar. Asked to list his accomplishments for the yearbook, Allen wrote that he had served in student government for four years. A total bald-face lie. He was actually in the car club and falconry club (along with future spy Daulton Lee of The Falcon and The Snowman true-life espionage story).

He was best known for the Confederate flag stickers on his car (probably the only teenager in So. Cal. to consider himself a "rebel.") And he did indeed vandalize the school with racist graffiti. A real piece of work.

[KoKo]

41. Geeze....that's pretty bad...

Thanks..

[adigal]

44. Could you please write a thread about this??

Maybe we can get it front-paged???

[LibDemAlways]

46. I have in the past, and will put together

another one for those who are new or missed it as soon as I have a chance to sit down and do it right. I'll PM you when it's up.

[LibDemAlways]

52. It's in GD now.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x794876

[countingbluecars]

21. "He is a particularly stupid, vacant ass."

That is a perfect description!

[KoKo]

26. He "affects' a somewhat garbled Southern Accent.....but it mostly seems

real because he's so slow mentally that Southernors think it's his "accent" when it's his brain.

Most Southerners today...couldn't tell a "true accent" from Britany Spears because of the Media Influence on all our language....but they will never tell us that. :D Mr. Allen can pass himself off as whomever he wants. He might even do a good BAWSTON accent if he was running from MASS!!!

[The_Casual_Observer]

32. The accent is a fraud. Allen is a fraud.

[BenDavid]

34. These words ring so true:

taken from the movie The Rock: Mason tells the General " Personally, I think you're a fucking idiot" and the same could be said about Allen..

[AtomicKitten]

35. He is genuinely creepy.

[underpants]

39. He *IS* the front runner right now oh and SWEET NECTAR OF LIBERTY!!!!

Allen said it AGAIN on Wednesday January 26th the year of our lord 2005

Condi Rice’s confirmation hearing
1/19/05
http://allen.senate.gov/?c=story&t=press&story=2005011961776.859375


Because of President Reagan's steadfast determination, hundreds of millions of people tasting that sweet nectar of liberty in central Europe are now friends and allies," said Senator Allen.

On the 2004 election
10/10/2004
http://www.vote-smart.org/speech_detail.php?speech_id=69507
Ronald Reagan's election changed the dynamic of the Cold War from one of containment and co-existence to the advancement of freedom. As a result, hundreds of millions of people in Central Europe, once behind the Iron Curtain, now taste the sweet nectar of liberty, have joined NATO, and are true friends and allies.

Senator Allen's Tribute to President Reagan
June 8, 2004
http://www.nrsc.org/nrscweb/newsdesk/articles/401.shtml

But President Reagan believed the blessings of liberty must not be bestowed only on a few nations and only to those blessed to be born on free soil; Ronald Reagan, with the strength of his convictions, exported and advanced democracy to continents, countries, and people yearning to taste the sweet nectar of libert.



GOVERNOR ALLEN SELECTED AS "JEFFERSON SCHOLAR"
August 28, 1998
http://www.alec.org/viewpage.cfm?pgname=3.1aa56

He also pointed to North Korea, China, Iraq, Cuba and other countries where "there are people who have never truly tasted freedom's sweet nectar.

[Ken065]

40. Just like Bush

Once he's memorized a phrase, he keeps saying it ad nauseam.

[foo_bar]

51. holy sweet nectar of liberty, batman!

Today, because of Ronald Reagan, there are literally hundreds of millions of people who were once locked behind the Iron Curtain living in countries we now know as free countries--Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, former East Germany, Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, and added countries such as Ukraine and Georgia, which are now tasting that sweet nectar of liberty as opposed to being behind the Iron Curtain.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/R?r109:FLD001:S50721 (2/6/2006, Reagan's "95th Birthday")

Today, thanks to Ronald Reagan, as I saw Ambassadors on the House floor from Lithuania, from Romania, throughout Central Europe--those were hundreds of millions of people who were behind the Iron Curtain. But, thanks to Ronald Reagan's perseverance, for his belief in the dignity of all human beings, that all people do yearn to be free, to exercise their God-given rights, those people who were behind that Iron Curtain, who were enemies, are now tasting that sweet nectar of liberty. They are our friends.

http://www.washingtonwatchdog.org/environmental_justice/documents/cr/05/fe/03/cr03fe05-25.html (2/3/2005, Reagan's "94th")

Allen didn't coin the phrase, natch:

And what was he doing now in her absence? Was he in torment, too; shaken by gusts of uncontrollable longing for her; fighting off nightmare imaginings of disasters that might be befalling her? Or was he happy, drinking down in great thirsty drafts the nectar of liberty which her incursion into his life had deprived him of? She didn't know which of these alternatives was the more intolerable to her.

http://www2.cddc.vt.edu/gutenberg/1/5/3/8/15384/15384-h/15384-h.htm (1917, The Real Adventure by Henry Kitchell Webster)

[underpants]

53. LOL excellent list is updated

WOW

[spanone]

47. I feel the same for my piss-ant Senator Bill Frist....a 20 watt bulb.

Grown in a test-tube to go to Washington and defend his families rich lair..HCA

[ProfessorGAC]

48. What A Shock

Another silverspooner who thinks society owes him something because he never did need a real job and education was for suckers and poor people.

And, he's stupid? Who would have thought that would happen?

Oh, wait! Never mind.
The Professor

[ProfessorGAC]

49. What A Shock

Another silverspooner who thinks society owes him something because he never did need a real job and education was for suckers and poor people.

And, he's stupid? Who would have thought that would happen?

Oh, wait! Never mind.
The Professor

[ProfessorGAC]

50. What A Shock

Another silverspooner who thinks society owes him something because he never did need a real job and education was for suckers and poor people.

And, he's stupid? Who would have thought that would happen?

Oh, wait! Never mind.
The Professor

[ourbluenation]

54. I'm telling you right now - Allen is the candidate in 08!

the thought of it makes me deliriously happy. He's such a booby.