New South Park jabs at liberals/George Clooney. Were you offended?

[maveric]

I wasnt. Seeing that Matt and Trey make fun of all groups, religions and demographics.
My brother called me and said that he was offended (He's a San Francisco liberal),and Mat & Trey are neocons...
Did anyone else see the new SP last night?
Were you offended?

[mzmolly]

1. Clooney is the reason "Matt and Trey" are household names.

I can't say if I was offended or not as I don't watch.

[rucky]

62. Yep. n/t

[Marnieworld]

73. How so?

Seriously I only started to like South Park over the past few years (the movie sold me big time). I know that Clooney had a small voiceover in the movie but how else did he help?

[mzmolly]

80. He discovered them so to speak.

:hi:

[danalytical]

91. No he didn't

That's baloney. Clooney was a guest on an early episode because he liked the show. Trey and Matt already released a few indie B movies and the show "That's my Bush", before creating SOuth Park. They made it on their own.

[huskerlaw]

97. Um, no...

"...and the show "That's my Bush", before creating SOuth Park"

South Park debuted in 1997. That's My Bush was obviously 2001.

[mzmolly]

101. Uhm, South Park was created before GWB was even S-elected.

In 1995, Clooney received a tape version of The Spirit of Christmas, the video greeting card which would inspire South Park. Clooney thought it was so funny that he made copies and sent it around the LA area. Matt Stone and Trey Parker were so thankful for his help that they invited him to play a role in the show, and he ended up voicing Stan Marsh's gay dog Sparky in the episode Big Gay Al's Big Gay Boat Ride, a role with no dialogue except normal dog noises. He later appeared in the film South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut. Despite this history, show creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone lampooned Clooney for his outspoken political views in their feature film Team America: World Police. However, this was after Clooney said that he would have been offended if he weren't made fun of in the film.

http://www.answers.com/topic/george-clooney

[danalytical]

102. OOOHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

I didn;t realize that. I saw an interview with Trey and Matt and they spun it the other way around, but if you ever watch any of their interviews it's nearly impossible to tell whether they are serious or fooling around. You're right SP has been around since before GWB. It's hard to imagine it's been that long.

[Pab Sungenis]

2. South Park has always had a conservative bent....

...but not a neocon one. Some liberals need to have a little fun poked at them from time to time.

Those who are easily offended should be.

[stevietheman]

46. Yeah, like when the hunting character shot everything that moved...

yeah, that was a "conservative" slant. Geez.

[SixStrings]

72. "Its charging straight for us!!!" = Classic. n/t

[stevietheman]

125. Parker and Stone didn't know it at the time, but they were parodying...

Bush's rationale for the Iraq war while Clinton was still in office. :)

[RandomKoolzip]

3. If they upset you, CONGRATULATIONS!

You've given them the satisfaction they crave.

(Not directed at the OP, but at Liberals who ought to know better)

[ClintonTyree]

20. Really......

if people would just ignore those two emotionally stunted jerks they'd go away. I've never been able to "get" the sophomoric humor appeal of "South Park". :eyes: I have a terrific sense of humor otherwise, I guess I just don't think potty jokes are funny after 5th grade. :shrug:

[danalytical]

22. You don't get it

You think you're "above" SP, but really you just don;t understand it because "gasp" it might actually be "above" you. Either that or you haven't really watched an episode in it's entirety.

[RandomKoolzip]

26. I've seen several episodes of SP. It's funny.

Not as funny as getting your peter sucked by a rabid wolverine while fisting an elk, but it's adequate.

[danalytical]

28. It's not just funny

It's also smart. That's half the reason it's so good. The scientology episode alone is proof of that. But dig deeper back to when they were spoofing on the Terri Schiavo ordeal and you'll see they really are clever.

[Marr]

50. It may occasionally be funny, but it's definitely not "smart".

Whenever they decide to address a real world issue, they do it a very 'accepted opinion' sort of way. They typically just go for the shock value of proudly stating the stereotype. Hardly clever.

It's like they're trying to go out of their way to say "look at us, we're not politically correct!", as if anybody gives a shit anymore. That might've been shocking 10 years ago, but not now.

[fishnfla]

77. Its a TV show. A cartoon

If you think its smart, you deserve it.

[Marnieworld]

74. Wow that's some camping trip!

:P

[Buns_of_Fire]

94. Damn. Something ELSE to add to my list of things to try before I die...

I think I'll put this one right below "Trim nosehairs with a blowtorch." :-)

[ClintonTyree]

40. Oh please..........

my brother (a dyed in the wool freeper) LOVES South Park so I'm subjected to his SP DVDs every time I go to his house. Is it above me? Not a chance. Am I above it? Sweet jesus, I hope so! I guess if you lower your standards enough everything looks like "up" to you. These guys suffer from arrested development. Potty humor and half assed attempts at "a message" in every episode don't add up to cutting edge humor to me. If you enjoy it, fine. But I think you should aim a little higher on the quality entertainment scale.,

[danalytical]

42. Ahhh and there it is..

You have something against SP because you have something against your brother. You are over associating the two in your mind. SP not nearly as slanted to the right as it is apolitical in it's satire on social issues. I know there IS an element of libertarianism in their show, but so what? Aren't they entitled to do as they please? I am a liberal, and I take absolutely no offense at all at their prodding. I think you miss the point, plain and simple.

You say you are too good for SP, but that's just an excuse.

[mongo]

82. Sooooo....

do you own a hybrid car too?

[Dorian Gray]

57. I love Sophomoric humor.

I've watched a handful of South Park episodes. I don't particularly like it, and it's certainly not "above" me. I just find Cartman's voice like someone scratching their fingernails down a chalkboard. It grates.

I do love Family Guy, so it's not like I don't like potty humor.

I certainly wouldn't be offended by any liberal jokes that SP makes, though.

[mongo]

78. SMUG ALERT!

[xultar]

21. I thought Libratarians were RWingers who smoked pot.

[ripple]

58. The ones I've talked to are right-wingers who

aren't afraid to tell you they don't give a shit about the poor, disabled, elderly, etc.

Libertarianism is nothing but an extreme form of Social Darwinism.

[mattclearing]

90. Being anti-government for the hell of it is stupid.

Where do libertarians think roads come from?

[AX10]

115. Exactly. There is something more extreme than Republicanism...

and it's called Libertarianism. Libertarians or "Lybian Terrorists" just care for themselves and would sell their own mother :puke: down the river to make a buck.

[mdmc]

112. lol

:kick:

[AX10]

4. South Park's creators are "liberatarians", which is code for....

"right wing screwball". Many times, the story lines fall flat due to the overplaying of stereotypes.

[Mythsaje]

15. Libertarians aren't that bad...

Misguided, yes. But at least they're not neocons. At least they understand and support personal freedom.

I'm married to one.

[debbierlus]

Screw the South Park Creators...

I can take a joke. I really can. I own the first few seasons of South Park and WAS a die-hard fan.

I am not a fan, anymore.

Simply because theirs is not equal opportunity bashing.

Certain liberals certainly have some qualities that would merit bashing.

But, they target liberals about a 100,000 times they do anyone from the right. And, in this age of Republican complete control of Government, strikes me as bizarre. No commentary of the worst President in history?

Their commentaries are WEAK. Cliche. And, completely skewed against liberals and to the right.

Fuck them.

[Tarheel_Dem]

31. Ditto!

this is precisely the reason i stopped watching after about season 3. every other episode seemed to take a hit at either barbara streisand or one of the clintons. i didn't enjoy it anymore, and like many others here, i have a great sense of humor. and i beg to differ with those that say the creators are equal opportunity bashers, cause unless they've changed their m.o. from the first couple of seasons, they're still bashing dems & ONLY dems.

<<<edited for spelling error>>>

[danalytical]

37. Really?

Sounds to me like you're a little too uptight. It's a satire show. It's funny, mean, and smart. If your politics get in the way of watching satirical comedy cartoon you might want to take a step back and review your sensitivity bubble.

[Tarheel_Dem]

44. not really concerned with what it sounds like to you.....

don't like the show..
don't like the creators....
don't like the message....

so i don't watch. That is all!

[Dorian Gray]

59. Why do you care if people don't like it?

I mean, it's just a stupid television show. :shrug: I don't know why you feel like you need to prove its superiority.

[manic expression]

113. Sounds to me

like you're absolutely clueless. It may be funny to some, but it is definitely not "smart". Its "satire" is pathetic attempts at "meaning", which are myopic, insipid and most decidedly RW. Our politics aren't getting in the way of anything, taste is.

[AX10]

116. I second your thoughts!

:kick:

[debbierlus]

83. They are like abusive partners

Verbally abusive jerk-offs...

You know the type...they push and push and push and push and push...and you laugh along for the first five hundred times until you realize that maybe they MEAN it....

But, god forbid, you should say....that is a bit much after seven years of constant insults...

Why, you can't take a joke.

No, you did take a joke when you thought it was a joke.

But, when you realize that is the way the really think....it is like, wow. They are friggin Republicans.

And, if it is one thing I hate more then a Republican...is a Republican who tries to act like they have it over on everyone and are above everyone...when they are just fucking Republicans.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

120. Not only do they bash way harder on liberals, they're just not that funny

anymore. Many less funny jokes than in the early seasons. I don't know if it's because they've farmed out the writing to minions, or they've just "lost it" and don't care that much anymore, wealth and success will do that.

[CatholicEdHead]

5. I was not offended last night

They overused sterotypes and the plot fell flat. This was a poor showing by South Park satire standards.

[Sammy Pepys]

6. No.

I like South Park. It's actually one of the smarter shows on TV I think.

And offending people is exactly what they set out to do.

[MadMaddie]

7. I think we have to be able to look at ourselves and laugh at

ourselves to understand ourselves....

I am not offended...I think that Southpark is pure sick fun...and I enjoy it...they poke fun of everyone and no one's off limits....that's what makes the show great.....

[Neil Lisst]

8. it was funny for about 10 minutes, then it ran out of gas

[aden_nak]

9. Matt and Trey are a lot of things, but they are NOT Neocons.

They are, however, very merciless. And when they turn their attention to something you agree with, the way they pick it apart can make you feel like they are your absolute worst enemy (just ask the Mormons or the Scientologists). If you watch the episode all the way through, the message is actually a good one. That while it's important to do things good for the environment and good for the world (such as driving Hybrid cars), it's also important to not alienate people who disagree with you. Because if you do that, those people will never come around to your way of thinking, even if what you are thinking is right.

Now I'll be honest, I thought they overplayed the George Clooney acceptance speech a bit. At least, at first. But if you are a regular watcher, you'll know they have two kinds of parody. There's genuine parody (like they used on the Scientologists, where they present the ugly facts in such a way that you can't believe it's NOT a spoof) and then there's the over-the-top ridiculous parody, which is as much a parody of how people reacted to the event as it is a parody of the even itself. I took the Clooney bit to be making fun not only of the acceptance speech, but of how people reacted to the acceptance speech.

There's also a third element, which is a running theme for the show. Very often, when an issue is raised in the media, as much attention is given to the ridiculous rhetoric concerning the issue as is given to the issue itself. In this case, they treated the "smugness" of people who drive Hybrids as if it were actually as important as global warming. The idea, I thought, was to point out how incredibly stupid that is, and how incredibly distracted we get on the aspects of a story that just don't matter.

[amitten]

14. All that aside, they're just not very funny. Unless you're 14.

They're still in Beavis and Butthead mode. I grew out of that a loooooooooooooooong time ago.

[danalytical]

23. Nope you're wrong

Beavis and Butthead WERE fart humor, SP just uses it as means in their satirical humor. You miss the point by getting caught up in the middle.

[amitten]

124. Right. That hand-as-J-Lo (singing about tacos) was soooooo

funny!

:eyes:

Face it--not funny unless you're still living with your parents.

And they do use toilet humor as toilet humor. I'm not missing anything. There is no subtle subtext. There is blatant subtext with even more blatant fart humor piled on top.

Now the Daily Show...THAT'S funny!

[rpgamerd00d]

10. Quote from Matt: "I hate republicans but I really f***ing hate liberals"

[Dogmudgeon]

25. Damn! You scooped me!

:)

The rant still has a little value to it, I think:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x794796#795059

--p!

[patrice]

11. I clicked on by SP last night. It isn't funny anymore.

Don't give them the satisfaction of offending you.

The best revenge is to make them = 0, i.e. no reaction of any kind - as if they didn't exist.

[AX10]

12. agreed.

[danalytical]

13. I love that show

I couldn't care less who they pick on. George CLooney [played a Gay dog in the second season of South Park. But that doesn't mean SP owes their fame and fortune to him. Actually it was Clooney that wanted to be on SP because he thought it was smart and funny. BTW if you think SP is "below" you, you probably have no idea what SP is all about. It's cynical no holds barred satire. Wonderfully intelligent if you can get past the graphics and fart humor.

[wicket]

36. Clooney also plaid the doctor in the South Park movie

(the one who transplanted Kenny's heart with a baked potato). A total jab at his time on ER, too funny! :D

[Gabi Hayes]

64. so were the stooges, if you could get past the eye pokes and

the fist in the face

why are you trying to impose YOUR taste on others?

does it have any effect on you that they NEVER make fun of Bush or his puppetmasters?

who'd you vote for?

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[Rocknrule]

75. Ever seen "Ladder to Heaven" or "Best Friends Forever?"

They ream Bushco pretty hard in those episodes

[Gabi Hayes]

86. no. I watch occasionally, and often find it funny, but have never

seen a RW politico 'appear' as a personal object of contumely; I have seen lots of liberals hoist on their own petards. not a scientific sample, but from what other viewers say here, it seems to be that it's heavily weighted against libs

that's quite a quote by one of them about fffing hating liberals, btw

[maveric]

89. George Carlin attacks liberals, environmentalists too. He's not a RWer.

He makes fun of extremism and the arrogance that goes with it. Matt & Trey arent neccesarily RWers. They do what Carlin does, just a little more right of center.

[Gabi Hayes]

92. no argument there, and I am NOT offended by anything at south park

it's too over the top FOR ME, too lacking in any kind of sublety to be offensive TO ME

and Carlin isn't offensive, either, but he's also usually too obvious for my own taste

the thing with people who take their own pronunciamentos as the last word in esthetics is that it makes them look like narcissists

the responses of several here who take the defense of South Park seriously on esthetic grounds is merely revelatory of their lack of emotional development. time to crawl out of the terrible twos and realize the the universe doesn't exist solely for their own amusement

that's more than enough time wasted on this silly subject

[TabulaRasa]

103. Yes, but Carlin's actually funny

with his jokes at our expense. Big difference.

[mongo]

88. Oh no! The SMUG is reaching critical mass!

[Initech]

16. There's dangerously high levels of smug!

:rofl:

I love South Park, and last night's was no execption! Matt and Trey are TRULY equal opportunity offenders!

[Beaverhausen]

17. I feel asleep

[RandiFan1290]

18. I saw it

I wasn't offended at all. It was a pretty weak shot at liberals. We love the smell of our own farts? Eh kinda weak if you ask me. I laughed my ass off though.

BTW didn't George Clooney do the voice of Stan's gay dog in the first episode with Big Gay Al?

[rudy23]

19. the show had a good message

The smugness of some liberals turns people off to some really good ideas. I thought it was good, constructive criticism. Not the best episode, though. Sometimes they get too preachy and forget to make a good show, but they always redeem themselves.

[Dogmudgeon]

24. "I hate Conservaties, but I F*CKING HATE Liberals"

(WARNING: Contains a Rant™ on the current sad state of Comedy.)

So saith Matt Stone.

This isn't something new, either; P&S have consistently pimped for the Right. The first few times, you think it's cool that they can "tweak" the Left, but the imbalance (and lack of real insight) quickly becomes hard to ignore.

How many times can you say that "the Left is Gay, dude" and get laughs?

I like South Park, but it's rich-boy humor, like the National Lampoon when P.J. O'Rourke ran it. They are talented Men of Comedy, but they are still Rich Boys. Rich Boys get to say and do whatever they want, but you know that no matter how much they "poke fun" at their own, they still get their way and everybody kisses their asses.

There are a lot of right-wing "Comic Genises" at Comedy Central; even their announcer, Penn Jilette, who has an unearned reputation for independence of mind (thank you, CSICOP), is a hard-ass Right-Libertarian. I'm willing to understand most of it being formulaic "Political Incorrectness", but it's still crap, even most of the occasionally left-wing "outlaw comedy". And they can't get by on just Bill Hicks and Janeane Garofalo forever -- for one thing, Bill's dead.

You know, normally I'm the one warning people to read too much into the politics of entertainers, but South Park has always been a political show, and Parkerandstone have never hidden their NatLamp RichBoy points of view. Fair enough. But don't think that they're being "Equal Opportunity Offenders". (Jesus H. Christ on a popsicle stick, every third-rate stand-up calls themself that!) Getting laughs is far easier than being funny. Enjoy the show, just don't expect it to rock your world.

If Matt and "Trey" want to impress me, let them draw a little of their own blood. I liked Orgasmo and Baseketball, which were non-political, and I know they are capable of excellent satire. But South Park ain't it. Sometimes it's good, left or right, but most often, it's just scat posing as the sublime.

--p!

[Warren DeMontague]

129. I know. MAN, is Bill Hicks missed.

We could sure use him around, about now.

[dogday]

27. Sometimes I think we as a people and a nation

need to to lighten up.... It's a freaking cartoon and an equal opportunity offender....

[Touchdown]

29. The show is juvenile, insipid...and right wing.

The animation is amatuerish, and the pottyy/blood humor gets old real fast. Even if they didn't have a right wing bent (which is obvious), it would still be an unworthy use of bandwidth.

[danalytical]

39. You are so wrong it's funny

You completely miss the point of the animation, amatuerisg styling, and use of toilet humor. It just flies right over your head. Here's a hint... they do all that ON PURPOSE! Right Wing? No I don't think so, they just hate politics in general.

[Touchdown]

45. You are so full of yourself it is more funny.

Quick. What's my IQ? Don't presume to know anything about me, or anyone else's intelligence you have insulted in this thread, just because we dissed your favorite TV show, and you act as if we raped your mother. THAT is juvenile.

They do hate politics. They hate anybody who cares about anything, or anyone else, but themselves. They are nihlists, and their message is clear...if you care, then you are stupid, and what's wrong with the world. We care about nothing, but beating up on people who are not in power, because it's funny to knock over a midget and kick him in the face. I do get it...it's just flying over YOUR head why anybody would think that they have a lot to learn about people and community.

"Film Actor's Guild ...F.A.G. Oh' HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR! That's so funny! I bet Matthew Sheppard would be laughing his ASS OFF at that... but he can't. He's dead. Killed by two guys who wathced South Park.

[danalytical]

56. Read you post again, and then

decide who's full of himself. It's pretty obvious.

[Touchdown]

60. Oh' you got me wrong. I was just poking fun at you.

Did it fly right over your head? Why don't you have a sense of humor? You just don't get it, do you?

[Dorian Gray]

61. Danalytical...

you need to relax, dude. So what if people don't like the show? I'm sure I love a show that you wouldn't waste your time watching. That doesn't mean that it's "Over your head!" It's just a television show.

[danalytical]

63. My point was

either it's over your head, or you (referring to poster) haven't really paid attention to a full show. I was trying to show that most likely these people never really paid attention to much more than a fletting glance, or approached it with preconcieved notions about the show. I like SP, I don;t own their movie or anything, but I if I make a point and someone disputes it I will debate until it's resolved. I'm persistent.

[manic expression]

67. We get your point

it's just incorrect. First, I've paid attention to MANY SP shows. Second, it is most definitely not above anyone's head here. SP is simply ridiculous and insipid to many people, while funny to others. If you like it, enjoy, but the half attempts at "messages" and "meaning" are not only slanted far to the right, but also very shallow and pathetic.

"America's my team, and if you don't root for the team, get the hell out of the stadium."

REAL deep stuff there. :eyes:

[TabulaRasa]

105. Oh my God, I forgot about that one.

LOL. What a festering turd that episode was, huh? I especially love their attempts at flipping cliches on their heads, and being more cliched and insipid in the process. In that episode, the kids go to Afghanistan, and meet Afghani kids, who despite what their PC teachers tell them, don't love Americans and freedom. One of the Afghani kids declares to the SP kids, "I hate you." And with the cheesy music cued, and a tear in the eye, Kyle (or Stan) says, "Maybe in time, we can learn to hate you too." That's sooo clever!!! And yeah, I loved their little moral at the end, that you stated.

[Touchdown]

71. How many shows must I endure before you will be satisfied?

...that some of us see in it more than you wish us to? I've seen maybe a dozen of them, and it's juvenile, nihilistic, self important, smug, and RIGHT WING. Homophobia (Saddam + Satan, F.A.G.) is not satire, it's immature, adolescent and sociopathic. I need not justify anything to you.

Claiming that I "don't get it" is a non-argument. Peddle that to somebody else. One does not need to "watch a show" in order to make an educated judgement on said show's content. When there's plenty of meta-reviews out there, who come to the same conclusions, a pattern is revealed.

In other words...I don't need to shave my ass and sit in a bowl of gin to realize it's painful.

And for someone who claims that this show "flys over" a lot of heads on this thread...Fleeting is spelled with 2 'e's and 1 't'.;)

[Bluebear]

85. 'juvenile, nihilistic, self important, smug and RIGHT WING'

Yep.

[Tarheel_Dem]

95. now that's good humor.....

"In other words...I don't need to shave my ass and sit in a bowl of gin to realize it's painful."


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[TabulaRasa]

84. Dude, I've seen a lot of episodes of SP

and the show is not above ANYBODY'S head. It's a doltish show without an ounce of cleverness. It's satire is obvious, picks on easy targets, while sparing the herd of elephants stomping around in the room. Even when I agree with their points I find it lame and stupid. Ooh ... a show attacking Mormonism and Scientology ... where did they ever muster up the courage for that? Attacking PC liberals ... fetch my smelling salts; I think I'm going to faint. And what makes it even more lame, is their obvious desire to offend. I find it impossible to be offended when somebody is trying to offend me; it's too self-referential to be meaningful. And I find jokes at the Left's expense hilarious, often. Take, as an example of good satire of the Left: Russ Lieber on Colbert. That's brilliant stuff. I've always said SP is the Simpsons for stupid people. I've also seen these guys on talk shows and stuff, and the idea that they are brilliant in any way is so absurd, I can barely even fathom it. They're a couple of college dorks, who lucked into a market of people who feel left out by the Simpsons phenomenon (because it IS actually over their heads). I can tell they've been orgasming non-stop over the fact that Comedy Central pulled their Scientology episode from circulation. They are such profound losers, I don't think I can even say any more. I also blame them for Carlos Mencia and the other assorted "I'm so offensive" crap that's smeared across my television day in day out. I was going to be harsher in my response, given the blatant condescension of all of your posts in this thread, but I'll leave it at that.

[mongo]

93. Another Smug alert!!!

[AX10]

119. Everyone as a right to their opinion. Some people may think....

it's funny and some may not.

[wicket]

30. Clooney is friends with them

Which is why he did the South Park movie.

[GreenPartyVoter]

32. Never really cared for that show.

[Coexist]

33. I think South Park is funny

and I can laugh at myself.

[gratuitous]

34. Offended? No, far worse

I was bored by their ham-handed attempt at comedy. But then, I'm probably just not cool enough to understand their willful conflation of "smug" with feeling good about taking positive action. After all, no one really should do anything that might be for the greater societal good, because then you might feel good about changing things, and that means you're smug. Always and forevermore. Thus speaketh Matt, Trey and their acolytes.

So cool. So soi-disant. And poor me; too dim to understand their ultra-hipness. {Sigh}

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[gratuitous]

47. Read my post again

I said I was not offended. See, the word "not" makes the statement a negation, meaning that I wasn't offended.

But I was bored. I was bored by the episode in the same way I was bored by the "Save the rainforest" episode, the "city flag" episode, the "school mascot" episode and probably a few others that I don't remember offhand.

Give yourself a break, quit sniffing your own farts (if that is a gag you understand), and come to the realization that Matt and Trey don't hit it out of the park every time. Sorry to be the one to tell you that, but you'll be a lot happier when you figure it out.

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[Renew Deal]

35. It was a great episode.

I loved it. They went after hybrid owners which I am. I don't act like an elitist, so I am not offended. South Park is a great show these days.

[pocket]

38. fuck South Park and it's right-wing lackey creators

they really are bent on trying to discredit liberalism

[stevietheman]

43. Not at all. It was funny (and true).

I consider myself liberal, but I do run into some liberals who have a certain smug air about them, and it puts me off as well.

I thought the message of the show was fair.

[AX10]

117. and I run into conservatives who are very smug too.

[stevietheman]

126. This is true as well. n/t

n/t

[JohnKleeb]

48. Didn't see it but

I probably wouldn't have been because while I don't agree with all their political views, Matt and Trey really do a good job showing the absurdities of the world. Not just political ones but social phenemons too, my response to the Chimpokemon episode was that is all so true. We need to be able to laugh at ourselves, I don't mind that Diamond Joe Quimby is a Kennedy carnicature and is very corrupt on the Simpsons either. I probably agree with the creators of the Simpsons and Family Guy more on political issues than I do with Matt and Trey but I enjoy all three shows.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

49. "Smug" San Franciscan here...

not offended, just bored with their stereotypes.

[maxsolomon]

51. you have to be able to laugh at yourself

my firm has THREE hybrids for work vehicles: an Insight, a Prius, and an Escape SUV. we're the smuggest firm in Seattle.

i thought last night it was funny, especially the running fart joke & finishing sentences with your eyes closed. and that Cartman had a going-away party for Kyle that Kyle wasn't invited to. i still fell asleep before the end, though.

sometimes 'liberals' drive me frickin nuts. nearly every political rally or protest i attend has me cringing with embarassment half the time. i hate chanting slogans unchanged from 20 years ago. i don't feel as if its as effective as blocking the freeway to wake up the commuters. i can't stand sanctimony & seriousness.

i feel like Matt & Trey regularly cross the line into pure spite & meanness, but in no way to i consider them "neocons". if you think that you really need to research what a neocon is. as far as i know, Matt & Trey never attended the University of Chicago & studied under Leo Strauss, are not signatories of the PNAC, and are not former foreign policy liberals turned conservatives.

stop misapplying neocon!

[GoneOffShore]

52. Watched The Aristocrats

and wasn't offended, except for the South Park segment and the one with the ventriloquist.

South Park is always offensive, and talentless and uncaring. Trey and the other guy are just clueless slackers who lucked into a TV contract. They and O'Reilly deserve each other.

[Ignacio Upton]

106. In the episode parodying illegal immigration

Bill O'Reilly was presented as reasonable on his show? :wtf:

[lectrobyte]

53. Not particularly. Smug is a problem for them, I guess. Not as

funny as some episodes, but in the words of MST3K, it's just a show, so relax...

[BlueStater]

54. I'm a fan of the show

I didn't really care for it when it first came on. The first season was probably the worst, basically consisting of potty humor and foul language.

The writing is definetely sharper and more insightful now. Like a lot of people here, I detect a slight conservative bias among the creators but it doesn't really affect my enjoyment of the show. They have taken more potshots than you may think at conservatives (that episode that spoofed the Terri Schiavo story, for example).

While I may not agree with their slam at Clooney, I realize that it's simply their opinion and that they're entitled to it. It's not as though they have a gun to your head forcing you to agree.

[blogslut]

55. I missed it last night

Luckily I'll get a chance to see the new episode sometime this week. It's a funny show. To me, South Park is more about condemning idiot adults and all their bullshit. Sometimes they push the limit and it works. Sometimes I just change the channel.

[mongo]

96. Do try to get a chance to see it.

I thought it was one of their better episodes as of late.

[Gabi Hayes]

66. more hugh laffs for SP fans

can't wait til they make fun of the bleeding heart apologists for the victim

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=791800&mesg_id=791800

[catmandu57]

69. Nah

I wasn't offended, I didn't think it was as funny as their past shows, but that's okay next week or the one after there will be a thread two hundred posts long talking about how great last nights episode was. Elichdah man.
Timmeh!

[Rocknrule]

70. No, and besides, at the end, they said that hybrids were good

but being arrogant about driving one isn't

South Park tears apart all religions and political views equally. They also have a good political spectrum of characters: liberals (Kyle's family), conservatives (Cartman, Jimbo), moderates (Stan) and others.

[Dawgs]

76. I usually don't get offended, and I wasn't really, but...

that's not the problem I had with last nights show.

It just wasn't funny.

Making fun of how old people drive is funny. Making fun of hybrid car drivers, in this day and time, is not. Maybe five years ago, but not now.

[Siyahamba]

79. I don't like how it's popularized homophobia

The constant use of "gay" and "fag" to refer to something uncool. People say "it's just a word" or "it doesn't mean I hate LGBT" but it reinforces the theory that being gay is bad. Even if you aren't using it in a homophobic way, other people around you hear it and think it's okay to be openly anti-gay. Kids hear it and associate it gay with being wrong.

It's not just homophobia, there was a post on DU from a Jewish mother whose son is constantly being picked on with anti-Semetic slurs repeated on South Park.

[derby378]

87. Offended? Why?

I'm sure there are liberals and progressives all over America who act smug and think they're a cut above the hoi polloi. I just hope I'm not one of them. Most of us - left, right, or center - are just trying to get through this life the only way we know how.

I love Matt and Trey. You may not like some of their swipes at liberals, but sometimes we need a good laugh brought on by a good kick in the ass, and they're just the ones to deliver the kick.

[phrenzy]

98. Oh The Irony..

Of some of the finger waggers on this thread... hahaha

[warrens]

99. They'd make fun of their mothers

As long as they nail everyone, I'm not offended. Christ, Lenny Bruce made the nastiest Jackie Kennedy joke ever.

[huskerlaw]

100. I haven't seen it yet...

I DVR'd it, so will watch this weekend, but no I won't be offended.

First of all, this isn't the first time they've made fun of liberals. But more importantly, the thing that makes South Park funny is that they make fun of EVERYBODY. That's how they get away with being so offensive. They can pull off dressing Cartman as Hitler because they also make fun of Catholics. They make fun of African Americans and that's ok because they make fun of Hispanics and white people too.

They make fun of things that are politically incorrect. Liberals shouldn't be shielded from it. Frankly it's pretty lame if we can't laugh at ourselves once in a while.

[peekaloo]

104. They aimed at pompous asses and hit the mark.

I laughed, I cried, I sniffed my own fart.

:D

[Ignacio Upton]

107. Matt and Trey are center-right libertarians

They like to skewer Hollywood liberals, hippies, and religious conservatives.

[Warren DeMontague]

130. Well, I'm a left-libertarian liberal hippie

who thinks they're way overrated. Give me Mike Judge (or John Kricfalusi!) any day.

[The Flaming Red Head]

108. I watch South Park to get offended that's why I enjoy it so much nt

[MrSlayer]

109. I found the flatulence humor disgusting.

Odd, considering I'm a Howard Stern fan. I just don't find body functions to be funny. The show was really gross but the point was spot on.

[GRLMGC]

110. Not really

I personally think the quality of the show has gone down though. I remember when it first came out and it was absolutely and horrifically hilarious. However, I think all good things must come to an end.

[Bridget Burke]

111. I wasn't offended....

Long ago, I figured that South Park was not my cup of tea. So I don't watch it.

[Wrinkle_In_Time]

114. This thread would make a good South Park episode (n/t)

[bpilgrim]

118. have these fools deigned to attack the rw by name, yet?

that was the only thing i didn't like about Team America... they took on the left by name but not the right & they think they are cutting edge :eyes:

peace

[Tarheel_Dem]

122. that was basically my problem with the show....

i thought the first couple of seasons were a laugh riot. my boss & i couldn't wait to get to work and talk about it, but we both quit watching about the same time, and for the same reason. that being, their bashing is in no way "equal opportunity" as some have consistenly claimed throughout this thread.

it's a matter of choice, and i would never suggest that anyone not watch the show, but the show lost its appeal for me & everyone else in my circle of friends. the o.p. seems to take exception with the fact that many of us just don't care to watch that crap.

[AX10]

131. Exactly. Parker and Stone are right wing libertarians.

They just "dislike" the GOP establishment, but the HATE liberals.

And, their bashing is in no way "equal opportunity" as some have consistenly claimed throughout this thread.

[slackmaster]

121. After reading this thread, I'm really sorry I missed it.

:argh:

[Vidar]

123. Always found the show offensive & moronic when friends had it on.

[Ladyhawk]

127. Woah...if we can fight this much over a TV show, no wonder this place

ends up in flames so often. Geez, guys. *shakes head*

I've always enjoyed South Park, even when I don't necessarily agree with the message. If that makes me shallow and insipid and tasteless, so be it. :)

[Warren DeMontague]

128. No, 'cuz I don't think South Park is particularly funny. The movie was ok.

But I think they get waaaaaay more credit than they deserve.

Beavis and Butthead, OTOH-- pure brilliance.

[bliss_eternal]

132. No--because I stopped watching the show last season.

Just isn't funny for me anymore. I can still laugh at older episodes, despite which way it spins (right, left or center).

I lost patience with them a few years ago, around election time. But if a show was funny, I watched. There was a time when they did seem to dish things out pretty evenly.

Slowly, they seem to have become more heavy handed in their liberal bashing, at least to me. Or it could be because my eyes were opened to their conservative tendencies prior to election time.

Now it's interesting to look at older episodes, as sometimes now I see their political leanings that I didn't pay attention to before. If it's a heavy handed, conservative bent episode I tend to turn it off. I've noticed they don't bash the conservatives as much as the liberals.

They only seem to bash the conservatives on issues like gay rights and religion. On election reform, global warming, racial bigotry, the environment they're kind of pains in the ass and I'd rather not go there... :eyes:

[mdmc]

133. smug?

lol