Any DU women ever used abortion as birth control?

[Katherine Brengle]

Poll question: Any DU women ever used abortion as birth control?

Or known anyone else who did this?

Let's get to the root of this once and for all.

[guinivere]

1. No, I have never done this.

As far as I know, nobody I know has done this.

[lapislzi]

2. And if I did?

Would it be the state's business? Or anyone else's except my doctor's and possibly the man involved?

[wryter2000]

3. Other

Fuck no, and anyone who says women do is spreading bullshit.

[Beaverhausen]

4. Don't women use abortion when birth control fails?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

5. yes

[Warpy]

7. I know two that happened because hubby was too drunk

to manage a condom correctly. Wife wasn't on the pill because it made her sick.

Is that considered birth control? I don't consider it such.

[pitohui]

6. of course it is used as birth control

it is the ultimate back-up w. other forms of birth control failed

further, i have known at least one woman who was unable to use conventional forms of birth control available to her (pill, iud) because of her poor health, naturally, because of her poor heatlh, she was also unable to carry a baby safely to term or at least felt she couldn't

yes she got a termination and i dare you to say that a woman w. a non-communicable illness should never have sex, even w. her husband

abortion as birth control is a good option for those who need it, at least the classic vacuum aspiration method is, don't know abt the abortion pill if it could be safely used by women w. health issues

there's no bottom to get to, either you believe women and their doctors can make these decisions or you don't

abstinence is the form of birth control most likely to fail, but i have never heard of a legal vacuum aspiration abortion that didn't work

[Katherine Brengle]

8. Replying to all comments so far--

I just want to know because we have this argument where some say "No one does this" and some say "This happens all the time" and everyone else is in between and I think we should just know whether or not it is happening, in order to see things more clearly.

I'm not judging--I don't think it matter why a woman chooses abortion--but some people care, and I'd like to be able to be honest when I am talking to people--i.e., if women do this, then I will know (and I see that a few people have said yes, so clearly it does occasionally happen, at least).

[lapislzi]

13. I don't think there is any way to know

Nor should there be, because it is none of anyone's business.

In my opinion, the idea of using abortion as birth control is dumb. Kinda like swatting a mosquito with a baseball bat. There are many effective methods of birth control available that don't involve surgery. I think the whole argument is a canard, but again...I have no way of knowing, nor should I.

If people are doing that, then I say, "get some education about family planning, dumbass." (No, I wouldn't say that, but I might think it).

[pitohui]

16. the friend in my example was under a doctor's care

we seem to have a lot of choices but the choices are not so many when you look closely, any choice that manipulated hormones (pill, patch, injection) was not available to her, the iud wasn't, etc

she was too young for any doctor to agree to sterilization, a permanent procedure, and anyway couldn't have afforded it

she was married and you cannot reasonably ask your own husband to wear a rubber forever and expect to keep him

i don't think we can assume all women who do this are uneducated or haven't tried other options

[lapislzi]

25. Point taken, but I think you're citing an extreme example

and what do you mean about condoms? If my husband or I had HIV, I would absolutely expect condom use to be an unbreakable rule, period.

I didn't realize that it was the woman's responsibility to "keep" her husband. Hm.

[Finder]

15. No issue is black and white...

and absolutist positions on either side do nothing to strengthen honest debate. I think this applies to most issues.

We relativists(I assume you are one by some of your posts)get it from both sides, unfortunately.

[TahitiNut]

19. So what if they do?

I fail to understand why what anyone else says matters in the slightest, with the possible exception of her significant other. :shrug:

[Lars39]

9. It is a privacy issue.

Women should not have to justify an abortion this way.

[TahitiNut]

10. My grandmother.

It's rather common knowledge in my family, and not at all considered 'evil' or 'bad.' (She was an LPN.) My own mother was a "four-month pregnancy," and had four younger brothers - the youngest of whom was born in 1933 during the Great Depession.

I personally don't regard it as a big deal. She was a good mother and superb grandmother - all-around, a beloved human being equal to or better than most, male or female, imho.

:shrug:

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

11. I know women who turned to abortion AFTER birth control failed

But they didn't count on abortion as a replacement for birth control.

I know a woman who engages in dangerously irresponsible sex and goes to term with every baby that results, dumping them on others to raise. How I wish she used abortion as birth control.

[bunkerbuster1]

12. Any DU women ever "kill their baybeez?"

I'm sorry, that is one incredibly poorly-framed question there.

[TahitiNut]

20. It's not a "baby".

It's a blastocyst, zygote, fetus, whatever ... not a "baby." :eyes:

As a person who was called a "baby-killer" I guess I'm a bit sensitive to that rhetoric.

[bunkerbuster1]

24. I guess my sarcasm isn't getting through

obviously I don't consider a fertilized egg or an embryo to be a "baby."

(medically speaking, it's not actually a "fetus" until the second trimester, btw.)

[Xenotime]

14. We use it...

about 3 times a year.

[BuyingThyme]

17. Semantics.

[MamaBear]

18. In all my years, one woman.

I'm almost 56, I've done office work all my life and I've known a great many women, only one of which had used abortion as birth control. She did not use it as her PRIMARY method, but she was very fertile, and even the Pill wasn't very effective for her. She told me once she had had several early term abortions (well within the first trimester).

She eventually found a method that worked for her (the patch, maybe?); either that or she was so scarred up that the embryos didn't implant any more.

That's one woman out of many and, in her case, I honestly don't have a problem with it. The only problem I have with using early term abortion as a method of birth control is that it's an invasive procedure, can easily lead to infection (even when done properly) and scarring and can be dangerous to the mother.

I'm chlldless; I'm not a virgin. Am I to be accused of murder because none of my possible pregnancies "took"?

[LWolf]

21. Aren't all abortions a method of birth control?

If you meant, "Any DU women ever use abortion as the sole method of birth control,"

my answer would be no, but my mother did for years. The illegal abortion left her so scarred and damaged that she believed she couldn't conceive again, so she said, "if it ever happens, I'll have an abortion." It never did.

[CTyankee]

22. When I worked at Planned Parenthood

I talked with clinicians about just this issue. PP gives every abortion patient extensive birth control information and options and the patient is encouraged to find a method that works best for them. However, there are abortion repeaters and this is a source of frustration for health workers. They have told me about the abuse and chaos in the lives of women who have repeat abortions.

In my experience, prior to the Roe decision I had a friend who had 3 abortions (illegal). In those days, contraception was difficult for a single woman to find. It was a different world then. But her example just goes to show what happens when society makes it difficult to find birth control (in those days that meant a diaphragm).

[TimeChaser]

23. Well, it's my backup's backup

If, Gods forbid, a condom were to break or slip off and then I couldn't get a prescription for the morning after pill (or if I couldn't get the script filled. The college health center would definatly prescribe it, but we're out in freeper land off campus.), then I guess that's when I would consider getting an abortion.

And if freepers want to say that's using abortion as birth control...

fuck them...

... with something sharp.