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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 07:57 PM
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Plame: A Conspiracy Within a Conspiracy
Sometimes an article comes along that is so good and so comprehensive and so...well...perfect...that there is no way for a blogger to whittle it down and pull out the salient points and provide commentary.

Murray Waas has just published the magnus opus on the Plame Afair. It's long, but everyone should read it.

Waas reveals the basic outlines of a much larger conspiracy. A conspiracy within which Valerie Plame played a relatively minor part.

And it all goes back to the those dreaded aluminum tubes. Let's get in our time machines and go back in time to September of 2002. The decision to invade in Iraq was probably made in April of 2002, but it was in August that the White House Iraq Group (WHIG) was formed. And they formulated the public relations strategy that would set the nation on a course for preemptive war. The media campaign began immediately after Labor Day. When Matt Miller, of the New York Times, asked chief-of-staff Andrew Card why they had waited until after Labor Day, Card responded with his infamous:

"From a marketing point of view, you don't introduce new products in August."

(please go and read the whole column.....puts everything in place, bit by bit....fascinating.)

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2006/3/30/171229/158
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 07:58 PM
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1. Thanks, Ann-bookmarked to read soon. nt
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:01 PM
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2. Better link:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:03 PM
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3. Murry Waas is the man, his reporting has been excellent.
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 08:03 PM by chimpsrsmarter
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:05 PM
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4. Key phrase:
The mission was to insulate the president. It was about making it appear that he wasn't in the know.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:09 PM
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5. The NIE
is for the President. To deny that he has seen it is to deny its very purpose.


:laughatfaultylogic:
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:14 PM
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6. this is a different article than the Wass article
so please go to the link in the original post....he references the Wass article, but the "putting it all together in a way I can understand" article is different.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:19 PM
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7. The original link goes to:
"Waas on Plamegate" by BooMan
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:23 PM
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8. bookmarked!
Thanks.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:59 PM
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9. Great article.
Thanks!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 09:31 PM
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10. Something about this Murray Waas article is making me uneasy.
1. With Rove and Hadley on the Fitzgerald hot seat--one or both about to be indicted for Traitorgate--Andrew Card resigning, and other signs of BushWorld inner sanctum meltdown, I'm uneasy with damning documents suddenly becoming available, and anonymous insider interviews. I just think our disinformation tentacles ought to be on red alert.

2. I DO suspect that there is more to the Traitorgate story than just the Plame outing (connected to the Niger forgeries), but I don't think that the larger conspiracy is about the aluminum tubes. The aluminum tubes story may be true, on the whole, but I don't think it's as major as these writers/bloggers think it is. I think there was something far more sinister going on than lying--and manipulating "talking points" and newstreams (Rove's concerns). I suspect that Traitorgate is the coverup of a plot to PLANT WMDs in Iraq--probably nukes--a plot that got foiled, that was probably discovered and foiled by Plame's extensive, worldwide counter-proliferation network, and that may also have been discovered by the Brits chief WMD expert David Kelly (or that he participated in foiling). Kelly was already whistleblowing about the pre-war WMD intel, and was found dead, under highly suspicious circumstances, four days after Plame was outed (7/18/03). His office and computers were searched, and four days after that (July 22), Plame's entire network was outed. If you wanted to throw suspicion off these events, what a clever tactic, to reveal some docs or give nameless interviews pointing to the aluminum tubes re: 'winning' the election.

3. Another thing that bothers me is the fact that Rove is portrayed as supposedly saying that the election depended on the aluminum tubes story getting suppressed. The election depended on Diebold and ES&S, not on any issue. All issues are--and were--spinnable, with the lapdog, war profiteering corporate news monopoly press. So I'm having a hard time believing that Rove said this--or, if he did, that he wasn't 'spinning' to the people he said it to (Hadley, for instance). I think Rove was writing his "talking points" about their "invisible" voter registration campaign and 'gay marriage' long before the election, in the confidence that Bushite corporations now controlled the vote tabulation with 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY programming code and virtually no audit/recount controls, arranged by the two biggest crooks in Congress, Tom Delay and Bob Ney (their "Help America Vote for Bush Act"--$4 billion appropriated to corrupt and destroy the US election system during the 2002-2004 period). NOTHING could have changed the result, because, a) the war profiteering corporate news monopolies were/are bought and paid for suckers for any Rovian spin; and b) Diebold and ES&S had a 5% to 10% "thumb on the scales" for Bush and Bushites, and if that wasn't enough, they had Kenneth Blackwell and Jeb Bush purging Democrats from the voting rolls, and massively suppressing anti-Bush votes on election day.

Diebold: headed by Bush/Cheney campaign chair and major fundraiser Wally O'Dell, who promised in writing to "deliver" Ohio to Bush/Cheney in 2004.

ES&S: a spinoff of Diebold (similar computer architecture), initially funded by rightwing billionaire Howard Ahmanson, who also gave one million dollars to the extremist 'christian' Chalcedon Foundation, which, among other things, touts the death penalty for homosexuals.

Diebold and ES&S have an incestuous relationship--they are run by two brothers, Tod and Bob Urosevich.

These are the people who 'counted' 80% of the nation's votes behind a veil of secrecy, in 2004 (and will be doing so again, in 2006, with the 'immigration' issue now being prepared as the "explanation" for Bushite 'wins' this year).

Karl did not have a whole lot to worry about, except what the "spin" story would be on 11/3/04 (gay marriage).

I have never much bought the Karl Rove "genius" meme. I don't think it takes much talent to write the "talking points" for foregone conclusions.

So, I'm inclined to think he DIDN'T SAY the above--that someone has invented it for some reason--or, if he said it, that he said it for some other reason than fear of our tiger press corps. (Perhaps he just wanted to ease his work load--to have to invent fewer "talking points," cover stories and blah-blah-blah. So many crimes. So few hours in the day to spin them with.)

There is also the Andrew Card resignation. He put the WHIG--the White House Iraq (spin) Group--together. His resignation may indicate that either Card is singing to Fitzgerald, or Card is in Fitzgerald's sites as well. Whatever information is coming out now about Hadley, Rove or Card needs to be carefully scrutinized for ulterior motives regarding indictability/backstabbing/blackmail, etc., in the Plame case, and sources need to be evaluated.

The POLITICAL motive of 'spinning' the election is the LEAST criminal coloration one could put on these events--on the outing and endangerment of US agents and contacts, on the destruction of our counter-proliferation capability, on the CIA/White House 'war,' on the Iraq War and all the lies and deceit--and theft--involved therein, on the various conspiracies related to these things, and on treason and possibly murder.

All of this to get Bush re-elected? Maybe so. Maybe so. Maybe even Diebold, ES&S and massive vote suppression weren't enough.

He was some unelectable SOB, to need all this.

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 07:21 AM
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12. kick
Thanks
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 10:54 PM
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11. Thanks! bookmarked!
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