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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:22 PM
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The Jill Carroll story is bullshit.
She is CIA all the way. I don't think she was taken hostage. The whole thing looked staged to me.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:24 PM
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1. Something smell very bad about this story...
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:25 PM
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2. I...think...that...maybe...you
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 11:25 PM by brentspeak
:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :wow: :wow: :wow: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:26 PM
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3. At this point, I only trust the people I know
and have a long history with.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:29 PM
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7. And even then
an ID check is required.


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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:40 PM
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17. how true(nt)
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 11:41 PM by amerikat
three five zero, zero
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:00 AM
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26. LOL! That's a great photo! n/t
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:26 PM
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4. let the flames begin n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:27 PM
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5. And who's the first?
;)
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:30 PM
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9. why? did they trade Iraqi women for her? why would they do that for
a reporter?

how many reporters/support staff have been killed so far?

isn't anything possible?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:29 PM
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6. Let's say she was CIA,
What was the reason for it? Any ideas?
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:30 PM
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10. Hmmm...
That * saved the day, maybe?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:39 PM
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16. I don't think the CIA would go along with that.
Aren't they pissed at Bush and his admin. for outing one of their agents?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:30 PM
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8. Why do you think so? She does speak Arabic but lots of people do.
Just curious.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:32 PM
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11. Her translator was killed when she was kidnapped.
Was that staged?
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Montagnard Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:33 PM
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12. The CIA just isn't that slick
Remember history! The CIA is a continuum of FUps.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:33 PM
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13. strange times.....
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 11:37 PM by stillcool47
reading between the lines, interpreting the language, seeking the thread that pulls the whole thing apart.....
Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere. - Albert Einstein

To imagine is everything, to know is nothing at all.
- Jacques Anatole I. France

The imagination equips us to perceive reality when it is not fully materialized.
- Mary Caroline Richards

Conspiracies
"Anti-conspiracists insist that, unlike the rest of us, the rich
and powerful do not act with deliberate intent." Michael Parenti

In a roomful of smoking guns, they demand a smoking cannon.

The well-known term "conspiracy" may not actually serve us very
well, since it suggests an arcane aberration rather than the
normal workings of our ruling class.

The trivialization of conspiracism may itself be a conspiracy.

Humpty-Dumpty was pushed.

With the JFK assassination we gave up part of our democracy and
we're not going to get it back unless we find out who did it.
Prof. Peter Dale Scott sees the JFK assassination as an "internal
adjustment".



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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:35 PM
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14. JPod, is that you?
Get out of the pool, ya big hairy ape!

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:36 PM
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15. I do wonder why she "refuses to be debriefed"
?
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gypsyslprs Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:43 PM
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18. Something wrong with this story...
so they never threatened to kill her? They let her take showers and her room had nice furniture?? What the heck is going on here? I'm so not believing this woman. Something smells fishy.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:59 PM
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25. Perhaps, just perhaps....
she is fearful and protecting others?
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:45 PM
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19. I don't buy the CIA angle, Jara...
I know that in many Muslim countries, there are, despite what many believe, people of influence who can control the actions of the zealots who take people hostage. Most of the people in that country and the region on a larger scale, decent, kind and compassionate people.
In the mid 70's, I had a family member who was kidnapped in Beirut with an eye to grabbing some influence in the media by his captors. This predated the Iranian situation. He WAS a mid level diplomatic attache. He was released unharmed after a month, as he was working to help people. Apparently, someone within the group who kidnapped him felt it was against Islam to hurt an innocent person, a Christian besides. According to the Quran, Christians, Jews and Muslims are "people of the book". So, sometimes, as the saying goes, an apple is sometimes just an apple.:hi:

PS: It probably didn't hurt that he was black, sad to say.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:48 PM
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20. I have no evidence to begin doubting her story but there is ONE thing....
...that seemed odd to me: She was videotaped in histrionics, crying (possibly more than one taped statement but at least one). I remember watching the soundless video being played on CNN or someplace- not sure if it did not have audio or if they were muting it. Anyway, I figured that...well, at least after that she might not have such glowing words about her captivity.

Still, at the time she made the statement about her captivity, she was still in Iraq. If I were just released I would be about as polite as possible- until I was in Europe or back in the States- merely out of fear which imprisonment of that nature undoubtly sows to some extent.

PB
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:48 PM
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21. Yah , even if it smells, that's going to make any questioners stink.
Look who she works for & follow the odor.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:50 PM
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22. wow can't believe you are saying this..i watched this morning and my guts
were scraming..something is not right with this story..she seemed too calm..and too kind to her kidnappers...i smelled a stink so bad..and i thought i needed tin foil for a few minutes..then i thought ..the hell i do .,.my gut is rarely ever wrong...

glad others feel the same way...

whewwwwwwww the smell was bad this morning..

fly
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:50 PM
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23. I think the paid the captors awhile ago
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:51 PM
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24. Was she EVER kidnapped?
or was this just psyops? She was treated very well by 'terrorists' and then released???
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:09 AM
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27. Tell me your theories
Why does it look staged? I don't watch TV and have only read the article. What am I missing?
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:21 AM
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28. Was there a White Chair??? OMFG!!!!! If someone can find a picture
of that CIA White Chair, this will be proven beyond all doubt!!!!
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:24 AM
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30. LMAO!
:rofl:

That's too funny!

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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:22 AM
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29. I sure hope you're kidding. nt
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:42 AM
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31. I'm locking this thread
flamebait
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