OFFICIAL CENSURE HEARING 1 -JUDICIARY COMM HAS IT AT 9:30 AM, NOT 10:00 am

[liveoaktx]

Editing to add that the Judiciary hearing website says 9:30 am -going to verify in a moment
http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearing.cfm?id=1841

Cspan has it at 10:00 am on their website but I just called, according to Judiciary committee, it starts at 9:30 am

[liveoaktx]

1. Just called- JUDICIARY COMMITTEE says it starts at 9:30 am

http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearing.cfm?id=1841

[Deb]

2. Thank You!! n/t

[Coexist]

3. I'll be there with bells on!

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. Thank you! I have the SPAN on and am looking forward to the farce to come.

The repukes are going to come out of this looking very bad, I suspect.:)

[liveoaktx]

5. Just went Live on the webcast

[liveoaktx]

6. Senator Leahy's birthday today

[Bozita]

7. Thank you.

[Junkdrawer]

8. CSPAN-2 is dead on my cable...

:tinfoilhat:

[liveoaktx]

10. Go look at the judiciary website at the webcast

http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearing.cfm?id=1841

[liveoaktx]

9. Feingold's censure not frivilous but no merit in it -Specter

[liveoaktx]

11. Leaks from the White House-Even Steven matter-Specter

[liveoaktx]

12. Specter-Need for a lot more public concern

[liveoaktx]

13. If they pass FISA oversight bill, Bush might ignore that too -Specter

but he didn't ignore the torture bill

(Yes he did)

[liveoaktx]

14. Leahy corrects Specter on his torture bill statement, Bush ignored

that too.

[cry baby]

15. Can's watch from the webcast on the committee website.

Windows won't play it for me. Why in the heck isn't any cspan channel covering this?

Thanks for the general rundown, liveoaktx!

[liveoaktx]

17. It's a Real Player feed

[liveoaktx]

16. Leahy going through Pres justifications to break the law

1. Rule of law suspended, this president above the law
2. AUMF (no reference to wiretapping) Congress "unconsciously" authorized wiretapping

heh

[liveoaktx]

18. Leahy inclined to believe Censure is appropriate-committee willl

examine it. Also calls out that history will judge Bush breaking the law and how Repubs not doing oversight

[liveoaktx]

19. Leahy-We know the president broke the law-Now we need to know WHY

[liveoaktx]

20. Feingold up- wishes Leahy a happy birthday-applause, Specter

smacks down the audience and tells them to be quiet. Feingold-I assume the applause was for the Senator's birthday. Specter-that's as good as your othe assumption.

[stop the bleeding]

21. Thank you is this the ***Official Thread??**** n/t

[liveoaktx]

24. updated the title-

[liveoaktx]

22. Feingold-pleased issue of accountability of president back up here

[cali]

30. Thank you so much for the play by play

and it's heartening to hear that Leahy is inclined to believe censure is appropriate even if it's not as full throated a measure of support as I'd like to hear from him. Happy birthday to my Senator!

[stop the bleeding]

23. bogus arguments n/t

[stop the bleeding]

25. Rate this up people this important n/t

[liveoaktx]

26. Proposal not worth a hill of beans-Pres will ignore your law

just as he has ignored FISA on many many occasions

[liveoaktx]

27. Wow! He's hitting on all 4 cylinders- Charade, no longer have

a constitional system of government with 3 co-equal branches, we have a MONARCHY

[ThomWV]

68. Where In Hell Are The Democrats?

Not even sitting at the table.

[liveoaktx]

28. Congress must stand up

[blogslut]

29. which c-span

is airing this?

[liveoaktx]

31. Not on scpan-Judiciary Comm webcast (Real Player)

http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearing.cfm?id=1841

[blogslut]

39. darn it

my real player drops the feed after every five minutes...poo :(

[stop the bleeding]

32. right now here is another link

http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearing.cfm?id=1841

I'm not sure if CSPAN has it up yet maybe at 10am on #1

[jean]

35. c-span said it's covering it AFTER Washington Journal ends - I

just heard this about ten minutes ago, live on c-span2. The hearing will be on c-span at 9AM CST

[liveoaktx]

38. Wonder if they will restart from the beginning or skip Feingold

[stop the bleeding]

41. my money is on skippy n/t

[liveoaktx]

46. Yup, they skipped Feingold

[jean]

48. They skipped him - Hatch is yapping live

[napi21]

37. Starts on cspan1 at 10AM est.

[liveoaktx]

33. Blech- Hatch-get the rag for all the oil

[liveoaktx]

36. "He certainly did not break the law"-'I think some people would like

to say the president has NO inherent powers.

OOOOO. Prissy.

[jean]

40. Hatch says censure is punishment, impeachment is the only venue for

punishing the president ...

[Greeby]

34. Hatch up, time for a cup of tea

Mute your computer, it's not worth the destroyed brain cells :crazy:

[liveoaktx]

42. Hatch-bringing up President Jackson-says it's not a censure resolution

becuase it doesn't use the word censure

[liveoaktx]

43. Hatch-Attempt to censure Clinton was unconstitional

[progressoid]

44. Did he vote for the Clinton resolution???

[napi21]

52. Ha! I love that one!

Supposed to be a quote from Ashcroft. "If a president cannot be removed through impeachment, he should not be weakened by censure."

OK Oren, just impeach him then!

[jean]

50. partisanship is at a fever pitch ... war time is not the time ... quit

trying to score political points, says Hatch

[babylonsister]

65. War time is exactly the time! We. Should. Not. Be. There! nt

[Why Syzygy]

54. screw Hatch

He contends that "time of war" is no time to hold the president accountable. Bush has told us the *war on terror* will never end. So guess what. No more constitution.

[Ufomammut]

45. Skipped he was

[cspanlovr]

47. And Away We Go......

[liveoaktx]

49. >>>>>>> CSPAN has it now -but it's live so they MISSED the beginning

[liveoaktx]

51. Sessions up

[liveoaktx]

53. HAS to bring up Nancy Pelosi- ooga booga

[TayTay]

60. Sessions is a weaselly little bastard

He has mastered the art of misdirection, that's for sure. Look, over here, shiny 9/11 things. Never mind that the President broke the law, he's keeping us safe from them terrists.

What a piece of work.

[Norquist Nemesis]

63. Up just in time to catch this...or so I thought

I've been waiting, congratulating myself for waking up without an alarm, and they change the time...not to mention missing the start of it. :grr:

Looks like it's going to be partisan hits on Feingold today...Hope Russ punches back...HARD!

[Junkdrawer]

55. Did you happen to get Feingold's intro?

:shrug:

[napi21]

58. You didn't miss much. Just the Sens with their self-serving

opening statements.

[Sugarcoated]

56. Why did they skip Feingold?

[Junkdrawer]

67. Why did * move his 12:00 pm speech to 1:00 pm the other day...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=790922&mesg_id=790922

These things answer themselves...

[The Witch]

57. DAMNIT i missed feingold :-(

and get here in time for downthe hatch and torture sessions...

oh yeah, g'morning! :hi:

[Democrat 4 Ever]

74. Okay, the fix is in. The Repugs has circled the wagons they are

pulling the old "America is a war" chestnut and going with that. This hearing isn't an effort in finding out the truth - just CYA time for the repugs. Why am I not surprised? The Dems are "playing games" with our soldiers lives. God, these repugs are un-f*cking-believable.

The only hope we have is that ALL Dems hit back hard, often and as a cohesive group. The repugs are trying to gang bang Russ and I hope some of the Dems has his back.

[babylonsister]

59. Did they swear in Feingold's witnesses, anyone? nt

[liveoaktx]

61. LINK TO Official Thread # 2

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x803092

[flpoljunkie]

75. Thanks, liveoaktx!

[burythehatchet]

62. Should there an official Session STFU thread

:mad:

[Norquist Nemesis]

66. He sounds like he hasn't had his 3rd mimosa yet

Usually, he's a bit more slurred.

[stop the bleeding]

64. Why do I torture myself listening to these douchebags??

:argh:

These Repthuglicans act soooo indignant!!!!

AAAAARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!:argh::argh::argh::argh::argh:

[Norquist Nemesis]

69. Pretty much demonstrates how open minded they'll be

in finding the TRUTH, doesn't it?

[Sugarcoated]

70. Sessions is such a windbag

He goes on and on

[Faygo Kid]

71. Jeff Sessions is one of the worst tools out there.

I would like to see a thorough investigation of his finances. He doesn't pass the smell test; not even close.

[Ufomammut]

81. Reminds me of righty-dickhead version of that Kids in The Hall actor

Who went on to other roles. Forget his name...Dave Foley?

[Sugarcoated]

72. I am so proud of Feingold

Grahm is okay - so far

[Sugarcoated]

73. False arguement

No one wants to kill this program!

[HereSince1628]

76. The ugly truth is the DEMs are screwing Feingold look at the table

the Democratic side is essentially absent.

Sorry, to say it but the R's have been set free by the Dems to crush the effort to censure and to embarrass Feingold.

[Sugarcoated]

78. I thought they were filtering in

Please tell me they're showing up!

[Sugarcoated]

77. Grahm is not convincing

Especially saying Bush is an honest man

[maddezmom]

79. locking

thread 2 here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x803092

[KoKo]

80. Cornyn saying Dems are running for cover not supporting Feingold...

I hope the Dems are going to come in later and are not there as a "tactic."

otherwise it's kind of humiliating since CNN announced the hearing would be on C-Span

[Skinner]

82. Locking

New thread open.