Official Censure Hearing Thread # 7 - Judiciary Committee

[liveoaktx]

LINK to # 6

[liveoaktx]

1. Who is this John Schmidt and why is he a Republican dream?

Saw him quoted on Powerline

[LSK]

5. Former Associate Attorney General under Clinton

[liveoaktx]

2. Schmidt-I may be wrong (yes, you are! )

[Norquist Nemesis]

3. Is it just me, or are the witnesses and Cons

talking about two different things? They keep bringing up spying on Al Qaeda vs determining the scope of the program to KNOW if the Pres broke the law? :shrug:

[liveoaktx]

Yes, it's the basement versus the second floor

[Coexist]

4. because he is a Democrat - so he gives non-partisan weight to

the right's argument.

[Coexist]

6. FEINGOLD UP!

[Coexist]

"did a hit-and-run on our witness"

heh.

[liveoaktx]

Hah! Hit and run on the witness (Cornyn)

[LSK]

the stream is lagging the TV by about 30 seconds.

[Canuckistanian]

7. Moussaui not Al-Qaeda? A "lone wolf"?

"Rowley was unjustified in asking for FISA warrant"

[Norquist Nemesis]

8. Feingold: Cornyn did a hit and run on our witness

:rofl: :woohoo:

[The Witch]

9. LET'S GO RUSSSSSSS

[liveoaktx]

Where's COMEY! Yeah!

[liveoaktx]

21. Republican Censure of Clinton

[MuseRider]

10. Just got home.

#7? I am not surprised. I listened on CSPAN Radio at the farm and almost threw out my back when Cornyn gave his opening statements.

This is just stunning and I am not happy.

[kentuck]

11. I think Feingold and his witnesses are holding the strongest cards...

in their arguments. They are out-numbered but their arguments are made of steel...

[dogday]

12. Feingold make so much sense...

He just says it.... I love this man.....

[Coexist]

13. "why are they not in this committee - OOOH he said "cover-up"!

Isn't he the bold one.

[librechik]

14. well. we're just watching our congress hand over the republic

to King George. Only a few speak out against it and are suppressed.

Get used to it, it's real.

That's all.

[Norquist Nemesis]

15. Feingold just nailed it! "COVERUP!" n/t

[stop the bleeding]

19. yep

:popcorn::applause:

[The Witch]

16. Irony of Mr. Schmidt being here and not Mr. Comey :-) COVERUP

[fooj]

17. Where is Attorney General and Mr. Comey?

There you go......

[rodeodance]

Russ: if you want the words bad faith in there-Lets put em in! te he.

[LSK]

18. COVERUP

HOLY SHIT FEINGOLD IS BRING OUT THE GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Coexist]

25. You didn't help me draft this thing, but if you want the words 'bad faith'

entered, so be it"

Feingold.

[EVDebs]

20. Where is AG and Comey "coverup" ! -- Feingold

Article by Prof Michael Gerhard sp on censure/impeachment. Misleading statements = bad faith by President ! Censure necessary step. Intent to keep this program secret from accountability.

[sabra]

22. Feingold 2008!!!!!!!

[jsamuel]

Wow, "Cover-up"

[stop the bleeding]

29. this guy is incredible

[fooj]

23. You want "bad faith"...we'll PUT THEM IN!!!!!!!!

Go Russ!

[liveoaktx]

24. "You want the words Bad Faith in there? Let's put 'em in "

[Coexist]

31. He's nailing it.

He sounds like a fearless leader here. This will not hurt him.

[rodeodance]

39. Fein--you can not go forward checking a program that is UNknown!! te he.

[rodeodance]

Hatch is snickering Specters ear. Something is up

[speedoo]

26. Feingold is my hero. "COVER UP!!!!"

You betcha, Russ.

One of the few Democrats I still respect.

Kicked PUNK Cornyn in his sorry coward ass.

[The Witch]

27. russ happy to add "Bad Faith" to resolution!

[dogday]

28. Feinstein drafted a censure motion against Clinton?????

[Norquist Nemesis]

32. They chose Impeachment instead. n/t

[Coexist]

41. Feingold wanted hearings on Clinton

one of the few Dems. He was not posturing then, and I don't believe he is now.

He just might be the real deal.

[mdmc]

30. Bad faith

:patriot: RUSS !!!!

[VP505]

33. Go Russ

go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ,go Russ!!!!!!!

[kentuck]

34. Damn!

Russ is laying some heavy truth on the dirty Mofos...

[fooj]

35. Feingold is on his game.

Right on. Take out the garbage...........

[in_cog_ni_to]

Go for the JUGULAR! Give 'em hell, Russ!

Durbin's getting a SCATHING email from me for not showing up for this! I am mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore. Like he gives a shit.:grr: I am so ready to change party's.:grr:

[Canuckistanian]

36. "If you want bad faith, let's put it in"

[flyarm]

37. i just spoke to kennedy's office..wow i am pissed!!!!!!!!

i got a song and dance that even if all the dems of that committee were there the censure would not pass..i said i do not care..i said the dem party has now set up fiengold and that is dispicable..and i will now withold every penny and not give the dems one damn dime in the future until all the senatores who are shredding our constitution are out of office!

all i got were excuses ..and i shut the guy down and i told him they were nothing but bullshit empty excuses to gut our constitution..

wow i am pissed beyond pissed!

i hung up on the guy after telling the guy Kennedy just screwed all of us and worst of all he screwed our constitution for all time!

fly

[carolinalady]

47. Good for you! :) n/t

[LSK]

54. send your donations to Ned Lamont

Defeat Joementum.

[flyarm]

74. oh AND KENNEDY'S OFFICE PHONE GUY SAID

kennedy has had a very busy week so far...well i lit into that and said if protecting my constitutional rights are so unimportant to Kennedy then he needs to retire and get out of the senate!

IAM FURIOUS!

KENNEDY IS NOT GOING TO SHOW..I BET...BY ALL THE EXCUSES I HEARD FROM HIS OFFICE!

FLY

[peacetalksforall]

38. Al-Queda memberships?

I nearly flew through the ceiling - where is the membership list? Do they have premium memberships like Air America and other political groups? Does al-Queda have student and senior memberships, also.?

[ralps]

40. If you want the words "Bad Faith" put in do it. In essenceI think that's

what Russ said

[Democrat 4 Ever]

The camera keeps going to Hatch and Specter whispering

wildly. I would love to be in on that conversation. They are scrambling amongst themselves to shut down the truth.

[liveoaktx]

42. Feingold-bringing up Bush's wiretap statements again

[rodeodance]

52. Feingold: The President KNEW as her spoke of wiretaps that he was

indeed already doing it.

[dogday]

43. We have Bush on video lying about this program......

[EVDebs]

49. Any links ? More evidence into DU's record of this hearing the better

[dogday]

78. It was on a press conference

when he talked about wire taps and getting a court order.... It's public knowledge... I know Randy Rhodes plays the clip on her show....

[EVDebs]

44. Fein - Illegal Secrecy breeds abuse. It also breeds Blowback

as the Church cmte. shows.

[flpoljunkie]

45. "Mr. Feingold comes to Washington." He knows now to stand up and take

names, but will the media notice? Unfortunately, We all know the answer to that.

[Sugarcoated]

46. Russ will turn this to his advantage

and make other Dems look like the wimps they are.

[peacetalksforall]

57. Yes W I M P S including my hero T E D K E N N E D Y. n/t

[Sydnie]

Looks like I made it just in time to hear Russ

sleep in late, I missed some drama, huh? Damn!

[Coexist]

48. "do you agree that misleading the American people in this way

deserves condemnation?"

Dean: "it is a pattern in practice".

[bdamomma]

66. RUSS MAY NOT HAVE THOSE YELLOW BELLIED

SENATORS IN HIS CORNER, BUT HE HAS US. COVERUP THAT IS WHAT IT IS. WE ARE NOT STUPID AND DISCONNECTED LIKE SOME ARE IN THE SENATE. DAMN IT. IT IS A COVERUP AND THEY ARE COVERING BUSH'S ASS.

[dogday]

50. I holding out for a hero and I have found him

I love Russ Feingold!!!!!!

[Beelzebud]

51. So remind me what the difference is betweed (R) and (D) at this point.

Besides A COUPLE good poeple like Feingold.

What good are the Washington Dems? This is a fucking OUTRAGE...

[rodeodance]

56. go Fein Go!!

[rodeodance]

Fein: i am a citizen of the US---does not want monarchy!! whow.

[rodeodance]

68. Specters sole purpose of this hearing is to publicly smack the witnesses.

[Beelzebud]

75. He' Magic Bullet Specter. He's already been involved in one of the

biggest government coverups in history. He's a pro at this game.

[in_cog_ni_to]

64. NO KIDDING!

I cannot believe they didn't bother to show up for this hearing!!!!:grr:

[Norquist Nemesis]

53. Specter looked a bit shook after that...ah, now he's back to hits

Will we see a light go off for Specter?

Probably not.

[liveoaktx]

58. with Hatch looking smug

[Coexist]

61. Specter likes saying, "the Gang of 8" - I think it is his fantasy

to be a gang-banger. Makes him feel young and tough.

[0007]

Screw the gang of eight.....only Arlen knows no one else, 'eh?

[The Witch]

62. We've been told. No, we haven't been told. Freaking flipflops.

Senate knowledge of the program fluctuates depending on what they are trying to say, you bastard.

[carolinalady]

63. Specter is no fool-He KNOWS that Shrub is breaking the law.

Why he is letting it go on is beyond me. If he is shook, it is because he is mentally reworking his spin.

[EVDebs]

67. Now Specter is scared. He was asked by Fein 'maybe you know the number

of American's who have been spied upon' ! The scope breadth and detail is not know to you (Mr. Specter) -- Fein.

Fein is kicking Specter's broad expanse of an ass !

[liveoaktx]

55. Specter- why do you keep saying Bush was not informed when the Gang of 8

heard it?
Fein: I have asked about specifics, # of people spied upon. How about Hatch.

[Norquist Nemesis]

59. ROFL! Fein punches back at Hatch!

"Perhaps Senator Hatch can tell us." :rofl:

[dogday]

60. Spector is beating up on the witness, he can't stand it

cause Fein is right on time.... Get on Hatch, I love that

[Sydnie]

65. What the meaning of "secret" is? Is that the best YOU can do Arlen?

He is fishing and coming up with no bait, isn't he?

[berner59]

72. Fein is great...

I'm a citizen concerned that our democracry is not a monarchy!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!! Turner is an ASS!!!!

[0007]

77. The guy's a joke. Calling on Turner to agree with him.

[Canuckistanian]

69. Pissing match between Fein and Specter

What an arrogant asshole Specter is

[rodeodance]

73. Smack down time again by Specter!! What a professional (NOT)>

[liveoaktx]

70. >>>>> HEARING THREAD 8 STARTED ->>>>>> LINK

EIGHT

[bdamomma]

82. I WOULD LOVE

SOMEONE SEEK IN AND SAY LOUD COVERUP COVERUP. NO MONARCHY.

[kentuck]

71. I notice that Specter is squirming...

He can't sit still in his seat ??

[Norquist Nemesis]

76. That's why he's now turning to his buddy Turner n/t

[0007]

80. and he sounds like a broken record. Let's get to the crux of the matter

asshole.

[rodeodance]

79. AP Nixon aide: Bush wiretaps exceed Watergate crimes

Dean's comments have hit the wires!
Updated at 9:39 AM

Nixon aide: Bush wiretaps exceed Watergate crimes

By LAURIE KELLMAN
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Nixon White House counselor John Dean, testifying in behalf of a Democratic resolution to censure President Bush, asserted Friday that Bush's conduct in connection with domestic spying exceeds the wrongdoing that toppled his former boss from power.

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, fired back by telling Democrats: "Quit trying to score political points."

The Senate, Dean said, should censure or officially scold Bush as proposed by Sen. Russell Feingold's resolution. But if that action carries too much political baggage, some senatorial warning is in order, Dean said.

"The resolution should be amended, not defeated, because the president needs to be reminded that separation of powers does not mean an isolation of powers," Dean said in prepared remarks. "He needs to be told he cannot simply ignore a law with no consequences."


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[maddezmom]

81. thread #8 here

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[Seedersandleechers]

83. Looks like Taylor got hit in the forehead with an axe

[librechik]

84. Specter jokes about Turner fillibustering

with all the patriot/enemy talk

Ha ha

very funny

[Skinner]

85. Locking

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