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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:48 PM
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Savage: "Burn the Mexican Flag!"
Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 02:50 PM by kpete
Savage: "Burn the Mexican Flag!"

Summary: Michael Savage repeatedly called on his listeners to "burn the Mexican flag" in opposition to illegal immigrants. Savage claimed that the only way to combat the onslaught of illegal immigrants is through protest and asked his audience to "burn a Mexican flag for America, burn a Mexican flag for those who died that you should have a nationality and a sovereignty, go out in the street and show you're a man, burn 10 Mexican flags, if I could recommend it. Put one in the window upside down and tell them to go back where they came from!"

http://mediamatters.org/items/200603310008

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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:48 PM
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1. he should come to my neighborhood and try that
i'd like to see it.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:49 PM
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4. beat me to that
my thoughts exactly
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:51 PM
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10. I'll pick him up at DFW and drive him to a place he can show how much
of a man he is if he wants.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:28 PM
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36. Let him try here!
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:57 PM
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58. Everybody is giving this jerk too much credit!
In the times I have listened to Michael Savage, either by accident or on purpose, the guy was all over the freakin' place. There was no consistency. I would even describe it as incoherent. It was strange to listen too. Even stranger was that there were people who called up to agree with him. It seemed as if he spent more time dissing conservatives than he did liberal or progressives. Go figure!



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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:49 PM
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2. Michael Savage is an idiot.
But you knew that already.

:puke:

:dunce:
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:49 PM
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3. Savage is the ultimate Freeper whackjob.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:50 PM
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5. the ironic thing about this
is most of the rest of the world doesn't idolize flags like "we" do. I wonder how many Mexicans would even give a shit?

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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:52 PM
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12. I went to the US v. Mexico baseball games a few weeks ago
There were many more Mexico flags carried by fans than US flags. What does this mean? I dunno. But I think flag flying is more common than you may. Just my 2 cents.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:56 PM
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15. Should have seen the friendly that the US soccer team played
at the Cotton Bowl against Mexico to prepare for the World Cup a few years ago. The coach wanted the team to play a tough exhibition game in front of a hostile crowd.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:03 PM
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18. The crowd wasn't hostile to the US team
Soccer is their game so they are more passionate. Plus soccer fams tend to get ugly.

The US team wasn't even booed (except for A-Rod and everybody hates him). No different than Cubs v. Cardinals really.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:11 PM
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22. Neither was the crowd here
Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 03:12 PM by RGBolen
US team was cheered here when they were introduced and both teams were cheered after the game. But during the game, Mexico was the "home" team as far as the crowd, with a sea of Mexican flags.


I've been to a Cubs/Cardinals game in 1984. Funniest thing we are on the train everyone has on something Cubs or Cardinals and a couple from St. Louis gets on at a stop and asks "Is this train going to Wrigley Field?" Everyone just kind of looked at each other, and a guy in a Cardinals jersey said "If it's not it's a pretty damn good trick, ain't it."
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:20 PM
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24. ha!
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:50 PM
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6. This vomiting emoticon says it all...
:puke:
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:50 PM
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7. Burn Savage
Although the resulting toxic fumes may violate environmental protection laws.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:51 PM
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8. yes, we won our sovereignty from King Jorge III of Mexico in 1776
he should go back to selling Bust Must +
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:51 PM
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9. Sounds great to me -- the flag burning part I mean! I'll sell him a
whole bunch of Mexican flags for say, $50 a pop. If he's a real man, he'll buy at least a hundred!

:evilgrin:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:52 PM
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11. now where all the duers who were freaking out over these
mexican flags.

They were all over this website a few days ago.

Today we see that michelle malkin and michael savage are saying basically the same things. where are the duers who agree with malkin and savage.

They are here somewhere . . .
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:32 PM
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31. They're saying the same thing as Savage?
I saw a lot of posts from people who felt it was wrong to put the Mexican flag over the US flag, but I don't recall calls to burn the Mexican flag.

It all just goes to show that flags are potent symbols and their use sends a message.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:48 PM
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47. Some were
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:54 PM
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54. Maybe so. I know there were posters saying the flag is "just
a piece of cloth", therefore people shouldn't get workd up about what people do with it.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:55 PM
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13. What next 'pogroms'?
Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 02:57 PM by MrPrax


"Hold it boys, ragheads are out...beaners are in...CHARGE!!!"
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:56 PM
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14. so America's national identity is based on hating other countries?!!!

What a petty thing to say.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:00 PM
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16. Oh please, Weiner, please go do that in East LA!
I'm beggin' you here!
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:01 PM
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17. burn a flag for all the Mexicans who died...
so that we could have California and Texas
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:05 PM
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19. eleminate the boarders, we are all Gods Children living in harmony
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:05 PM
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20. I and a few of my friends
are ANGRY today...
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Sal316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:11 PM
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21. They're doing it here in Arizona
Arizona Star

Mexican flag burned at Apache Junction HS



Tensions over immigration reform heightened in the Phoenix area's East Valley Thursday when students raised a Mexican flag over Apache Junction High School — and then other students yanked it down and burned it.

====================

It's getting tenser and tenser here in the great southwest.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:19 PM
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23. More uniting. Thanks, Junior!
Teaching children to hate. What a good Christian leader you are. :sarcasm:
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:25 PM
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26. Apache Junction always had a reputation of methamphetamine
and trailer parks when I lived there. It's on the outskirts of Maricopa County and the people who lived within the county always would joke about AJ being the county's stepchild.

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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:26 PM
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27. PS
"When I lived there" meant Tempe, not AJ.
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:32 PM
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37. That doesn't look like a student to me.
I don't know too many kids who wear suits to school and have grey hair.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:35 PM
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:23 PM
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25. This is an interesting thread.
How many of those who are all incensed about this whackjob's attempt to get people riled up, also are among those who get all riled up over every time the Rs trot out the protect-the-American-flag amendment?
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:28 PM
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29. Right on!
Flag burning is a legitimate form of protest. I bet Savage is HORRIFIED when people burn the American flag.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:34 PM
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:37 PM
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42. about the same

that oppose a anti flag burning amendment yet would feel the same way about this had Savage or someone on the left said go to American Legion posts and burn American flags.

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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:27 PM
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28. burn a Savage flag.
make one yourself, just draw a big ole ass, then ignite.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:29 PM
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30. What a freakin retard
I guess it's what's to be expected from dim-wit Republicans.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:33 PM
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32. Flag pretty, fire bad
Can we burn pictures of Savage instead?
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ropi Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:33 PM
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33. Here ya go, Savage..
Read Emma Lazurus--

The New Colossus

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,

With conquering limbs astride from land to land;

Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand

A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame

Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name

Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand

Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command

The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she

With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:34 PM
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34. What an idiot. Burning the flag of a foreign nation to protest
illegal immigration is stupid.
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:26 PM
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35. He probably hated to say "flag"
after the words "Burn a Mexican"
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:32 PM
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38. Workers waving and burning flags that were probably made in China
sigh

It's LABOR vs GLOBAL CORPORATIONS

It's US vs THEM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:32 PM
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Beacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:38 PM
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43. Try to be a little less obvious would you
At least make us work for it
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:45 PM
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44. they want to be caught n/t
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:50 PM
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50. What don't you understand about the First Amendment?
And what makes you think you should be the arbiter of what offense should be legal or not?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:55 PM
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55. But burning a flag isn't a hate crime.
Do you know what a hate crime is?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:58 PM
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:00 PM
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62. But burning a flag isn't assault or defacement of property - unless
of course it's someone else's flag. And I've already addressed that.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:03 PM
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:04 PM
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67. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Now prove it in a court.
I could usethe entertainment.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:09 PM
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:00 PM
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63. Yawn.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:03 PM
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66. Bluebear, give us a little Christ on a Hitch or a giant spoon
or even a vinger spunge, would you? I need the entertainment!
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:51 PM
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51. Subtle yet Sharp. Well Done. LOL. nt
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:23 PM
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74. humm....
guess saying that he burns other people's flags in parking lots. That advocating of illegal acts clause




:rofl: :rofl:
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:49 PM
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48. Damn that freedom of speech!
People are - and should be - free to burn any damn flag they like (provided they own it).

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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:51 PM
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52. If you burn your cross on your property and don't violate any
laws regarding open flames, you should be free to do so.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:01 PM
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64. When did you confuse "advocating" with recognizing a
legal right?
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:19 PM
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73. Actually, you're wrong there.
It is not illegal to burn a cross in public. The KKK does it all the time during their meetings, and you can burn one in your yard without anything happening to you (unless it's generally against the law to burn things in your yard where you live).

What makes it a hate crime is intent, not action. If you're doing it to protest an action or policy, or to voice your opinion, the action is perfectly legal. If you're doing it to intimidate people, there's a legal line being crossed (important difference: It doesn't matter whether you ARE intimidated, but whether that was the intent). When a KKK member burns a cross in a park, he does it to intimidate blacks and is committing a hate crime. If I burned a cross in the same park to protest the effect that fundamentalist christian assholes are having on our society, that would be perfectly legal.

Same goes for the flag. If someone's burning a flag to intimidate Mexicans, you may have a valid hate crimes charge. If they're burning it to protest Mexico or the actions of Mexicans, it's protected speech.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:59 PM
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60. Could you at least try a little harder?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:47 PM
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46. Savage Weiner = flag burner and Christofascist
His head practically exploded when all those "Islamofascists" were burning Danish flags. And you know how he feels about protesters burning Old Glory! Kind of a double standard, don't you think?
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:56 PM
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56. Let's hold a public Savage book burning and see how he likes it.
What a fucking douchebag.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:14 PM
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72. Yeah I should rephrase that:
Let's hold a public "book" burning where we take as many copies of Savages' hateful tomes stupidity and set them on fire in Newport Beach. Of course, his "books" are fuel for the American Taliban so they should produce a flame taller than the tallest buildings in Los Angeles.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:06 PM
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68. We don't want them defacing our flag we shouldn't do it to them nt
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:11 PM
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71. Savage is someone who should just be put on "ignore." n/t
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:41 PM
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75. Nah let's burn the confederate flag instead n/t
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