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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:33 PM
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So Bush sets up his guest worker program.....
How does he make sure his guest workers leave after 6 years?

How does he keep them fom coming back?

If illegal immigrants can forge papers now, why can't they continue to forge papers afte he sets up his guest worker program?
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:39 PM
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1. It might not matter
In 6 years the United States, Mexico and Canada may well be on their way to being one big ol' 'North America' on the order of the EU.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:39 PM
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2. Exactly what I heard on the radio yesterday
We can't keep track of the legal green card holders now -- and we want to create MORE bureaucracy that will fail?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:41 PM
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3. These are the wrong questions, pitting workers against workers
Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 04:42 PM by sfexpat2000
instead of holding the Thugs in power accountable. They create bad feeling and they don't really address working conditions for American citizens OR guest workers.

The right questions: Will guest workers' wages be equal to American workers? Who will oversee this program and the employers who use guest workers? What will the penalties be for employers who don't comply and still insist on hiring undocumented workers? What is the recourse for American workers OR guest workers when their employer is not in compliance?

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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:52 PM
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6. To me, guest worker is code for 2nd class wages

Buried in all the talk about Mexicans lowering wages is what is happening to the "safe" high tech jobs. Companies low ball wages for engineers and computer techs, tell the Labor Department that they can't find any American employees, then hire workers from overseas on special permits. Meanwhile American citizens graduate and can't find jobs. To really cap the problem, educators go around predicting the downfall of the nation due to a shortage of (ta-da!)engineers and scientists! This has become a real issue for the professional societies like American Society of Mechanical Engineers (ASME) and Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE). What makes the situation worse is that the American citizens are graduating with a tremendous debt burden.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:04 PM
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8. And I believe you are RIGHT. All sound, no substantive
improvement for any worker, just for cronies.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:42 PM
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4. He has no intention of going through with this....
I believe he will try to force through an amnesty program instead. He just won't call it that. I don't care how many times he says he doesn't want it. He's a damn liar. And even if he does manage to get some kind of guest worker program, look for it to be mismanaged, expensive, under-funded, unenforceable, and actually cause more problems than it solves.
Count on it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:44 PM
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5. I totally agree. It will be wrong for American workers AND wrong
for "guest workers".

Junior is la creme de la slime.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:57 PM
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7. what will happen to any children born here who are legally citizens?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:05 PM
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9. 3 MILLION children who are US citizens are estimated to be involved
in this unholy train wreck. :(
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:27 PM
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10. is this part of his plan to fix health care?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:51 PM
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11. I think his plaln to fix health care is to replace us with robots.
But, that would involve an actual investment.

:(
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:30 PM
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12. That's why we need a Citizenship Program
It's sad people are calling the McCain-Kennedy Bill Bush's guest worker program because it's not.
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