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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:58 PM
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Suspicious profits sit uncollected after September 11th / SF Chronicle
Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 07:15 PM by shance
Suspicious profits sit uncollected
Airline investors seem to be lying low


Investors have yet to collect more than $2.5 million in profits they made trading options in the stock of United Airlines before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, according to a source familiar with the trades and market data.

The uncollected money raises suspicions that the investors -- whose identities and nationalities have not been made public -- had advance knowledge of the strikes.

"Usually, if someone has a windfall like that, you take the money and run," said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "Whoever did this thought the exchange would not be closed for four days.

"This smells real bad."

The source and others in the financial industry speculate that the purchaser or purchasers -- having initially assumed the money could be picked up without detection -- now fear exposure, or that the account has been frozen.

The markets were closed for four days after the attack, giving investigators time to notice the anomalous trades.

Securities regulators and law-enforcement agents throughout the United States and Europe are investigating unusual patterns in short sales and the purchase of "put" options, both of which are financial-market bets that the price of a given stock will fall. Authorities here and abroad have not publicly disclosed any conclusions they have reached and refuse to discuss the case.

There was an unusually large jump in purchases of put options on the stocks of UAL Corp. and AMR Corp. in the three business days before the attack on major options exchanges in the United States. On one day, UAL put option purchases were 25 times greater than the year-to-date average. In the month before the attacks, short sales jumped by 40 percent for UAL and 20 percent for American.

A put option gives the buyer a right to sell the underlying security at a certain price on a certain date; the purchaser profits when the share price drops lower than the agreed sale price. In a short sale, an investor borrows stock from a broker and sells it, hoping to buy it back at a lower price.

October series options for UAL Corp. were purchased in highly unusual volumes three trading days before the terrorist attacks for a total outlay of $2,070; investors bought the option contracts, each representing 100 shares, for 90 cents each. Those options are now selling at more than $12 each. There are still 2,313 so-called "put" options outstanding, according to the Options Clearinghouse Corp.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/09/29/MN186128.DTL
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:01 PM
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1. Holy crap!
It's all coming to a head, isn't it?

Peace.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:01 PM
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2. He's probably waiting
for his term to end....
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:07 PM
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4. I'm not a MIHOPer but wouldn't it be something if.........
the cover gets blown off the whole operation because some Bush crime family member couldn't resist the urge to pocket a little extra cash on the side.

The accounts probably belong to "Bucky" or Neil Bush.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:09 PM
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6. Or Bandar Bush....n.t
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:02 PM
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3. The link is bad
Is there another one?
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:09 PM
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7. from 9/29/01...not exactly "news"
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:35 PM
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11. right
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:36 PM
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12. The options have long since expired...
But the brokerages (and possibly CBOE -- the Chicago Board Options Exchange) would probably still know who bought them.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:17 PM
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9. Apologies! I changed the link.
n/t
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:08 PM
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5. looks like 9-11 masterminds weren't holy rollers but high rollers
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:12 PM
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8. Well? Nobody knows who these people are?
Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 07:12 PM by Redstone
How can someone buy stocks without the seller knowing who he's selling to?

Redstone
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Nabia2004 Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 08:01 PM
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16. They know, there is no such thing as an anonymous trade
It is all part of the cover up, dirty bastards.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 08:04 PM
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17. They make it sound like purchasing options is like buying lottery tickets
Of course someone knows who bought them.

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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:34 PM
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10. gawd-this issue is making MSM?! amazing-read about this YRS
ago
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:37 PM
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13. I am thinking that there is a psyop going on to remind everyone
of our 9/11 anger. Body parts found recently at WTC, 9/11 911 tapes released. Our local paper saying Atta and another hijacker practiced illegal "touch and goes" at the Clearwater airpark. Are they attempting to build up anti-Muslim sentiment for the coming attack on Iran?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:48 PM
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14. Remember... Ashcroft closed the investigation - told us there was no
story there.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:52 PM
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15. And there we have it.
--whose identities and nationalities have not been made public--

Maybe these people are totally innocent, but it would be interesting to know who they are and who they're connected to.

I have a suspicion the branches will ultimately lead to someone at the top.
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