So if I stare at your boobs, you'll shoot me?

[trumad]

[Katherine Brengle]

1. I think it's funny...

but I guess it is fair game since it is marketed to conservatives, lol.

[Ian David]

2. Hence the giant phallic symbol in the background. n/t

[Deja Q]

6. Only you would think of that!

:rofl: (April Fool! :D )

[Canuckistanian]

14. LOL, that's perfect marketing!

It makes conservatives feel aroused and dirty at the same time!

[Deja Q]

3. I could care less if she stared at my crotch or ass.

People have a tendency to do so. Bothersome at times, but it happens to everybody. It's part of the human condition and too many people, myself included, do it or have it done to us.

Shooting people with a gun is not an answer for something so menial.

She may have boobs, but she is quite brainless.

[omega minimo]

24. So you have no idea what women are talking about?

It's COMPLETELY different from anything that could happen to you, bub, sorry.

Imagine talking to someone face to face, eye to eye-- a stranger, a boss, a co-worker, a teacher, a pastor, a _____-- and they're not looking you in the eye..... their eyes always a bit off kilter, they're not listening to you, they're not RESPECTING you, they're gazing just below face level at your chest.

Now imagine that THAT'S where your "crotch or ass" or your :bounce: :bounce: are.

Kinda distracting.



And the gun part appears to be a joke, dude.

[RagingInMiami]

29. Naturally they deserve to be shot and killed on site

[omega minimo]

30. Naturally "they" like to miss the point on purpose

AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rofl:


Perhaps its the lack of an empathy gene :shrug:

[RagingInMiami]

31. So it's acceptable when a woman "jokes" about violent acts?

It's clearly acceptable to generalize and lump all men into the same breast-staring category, as you've just done. AGAIN!!!!!!!!

[omega minimo]

33. Those are your over-generalizations, not mine

:yoiks: Maybe someone else will have that strawman argument with you.
:hi:

Describing the experience of SOME women so that SOME men may better relate or comprehend is NOT "to generalize and lump all men into the same breast-staring category." On the other hand, if you ask women, you will probably not find HARDLY any who have not been on the receiving end of it. SOME men especially like to do it to young girls who are just developing breasts. CREEPY. :puke:

To be kind, I will not point out that you missed the point AGAIN!

Maybe it really is genetic :shrug:

[RagingInMiami]

35. You did insinuate that I had the "lack of empathy" gene

Which I understood as being a character flaw which applies only to men. You're even doing it in this post. That, to me, is generalizing. Of course, you being the stout feminist that you are, you understand that it is fair game and acceptable in our society to describe men as knuckle-dragging Neanderthals.

I see the point. I never did say that I did not see the point. It's obvious women don't want men to ogle their breasts while they're having a conversation. It's nothing new and I can understand the frustration it can cause.

But I also believe there could be a better way of getting the point across without threatening violence. In a society where violence against women is an everyday occurence, I don't think violent acts should be joked about. There are far more effective ways of getting the point across without threatening violence, even if it is a joke.

And I also believe if you're going to debate other DUers, you should stick to the issue rather than make personal assumptions about the other person's intelligence, lack of awareness or genetic make-up.

[omega minimo]

38. It's all about YOU!.........AGAIN!!!

:rofl: :hug: In no way am I insinuating anything about you, nor defending the weak "joke" about having a gun.

I am sorry if the tongue in cheek "empathy gene" comment stung. Not meant to. We have to find some humor in trying to discuss ANYTHING without individual men taking offense and shutting down any talk while we tend their wounds.

Obviously this is quite serious to you and your point is well taken.

"In a society where violence against women is an everyday occurence, I don't think violent acts should be joked about. There are far more effective ways of getting the point across without threatening violence, even if it is a joke."

:hi:

[RagingInMiami]

40. It's sometimes hard to recognize a joke in the Internet world

And yes, that was my point, when a woman jokes about violence, certain men, probably the ones who are ogling her breasts so blatantly (not just a glance or two like I admit to doing sometimes with great restraint), will translate that into "this woman finds violence acceptable. That's my type of womam."

Or it could just cheapen the whole point where the guy gets the jokes, laughs it off and continues ogling her breasts because he doesn't think she is taking it that seriously.

[Marie26]

34. Why would you think that

that was the poster's point? She clearly said that it was a joke.

[RagingInMiami]

36. In matters between the sexes

Where way too men use violence as a way to control women, "to keep them in line", and that sort of thing, I think there could be a better way of expressing her message without joking about violence.

[omega minimo]

39. Who are you talking about?

I said it "appears to be a joke" (which "insinuates" that it "appears" to be a joke to somebody, not me .................) in a post trying to convey an experience men may not comprehend (esp. if they think it's the same as someone staring at their butt).

I hope by "expressing her message without joking about violence" you mean the woman in the photo. Or there is a serious problem with misplaced assumptions here.

I was trying to help men understand another point of view (AGAIN :rofl: ) that may be unfamiliar or even unwelcome. NOT "joking about violence."

[mongo]

32. But I was only trying to read your t-shirt!!

Really...

[frustrated_lefty]

42. Reality check here.

Guys, gals with empathy, call bullshit on me if I'm wrong here.

In this day and age, I think most guys would be tickled if you stared at their package or ass or even their happy little bouncing :bounce: :bounce:.

It would be a much healthier world, I think, if we all could take attraction as a complement and we ALL could realize NO means NO. It's unfortunate that balancing those two things is so difficult in this day and age.

[omega minimo]

45. Read it again & try to relate to the POV as described-- NOT THE MALE!

and mebbe even EMPATHIZE :wow:


It's possible to be "attracted" and not drooling on someone's chest while pretending to talk to them. :kick:

[Marie26]

47. Not really the point

This wasn't about guys, this was about how women feel about being ogled. Here's a hint - they don't like it. There's a difference between attraction & objectification.

[Marie26]

48. ...

[meganmonkey]

4. I think it's kinda funny

Maybe tacky, too. But funny. I guess most well-endowed women can relate to the sentiment :)

[Katherine Brengle]

11. One need not be well-endowed to...

become the focus of unwated sexual attention -- or female for that matter I am sure, though I imagine women are more likely to have this happen to them...

:)

[liberal N proud]

5. Is that a real t-shirt on a real con web site?

[THUNDER HANDS]

7. wow, what a forced smile

its like her gun is being pointed at her head. I like how the words aren't even on the actual shirt, but printed across the photo. Makes it look extra cheap.

[tocqueville]

8. in her case there is not much to stare at... nt

[MADem]

9. Holy shit, what a lame piece of ....reasoning!!!

Someone should make a companion shirt that says

If you don't want folks LOOKING at your tatas

Don't put WORDS on a T-Shirt OVER THEM!!!

[Ian David]

12. If women don't want you staring at their boobs...

why do they hang shiny things between them?

"Honest, I was just reading your necklace."

[hlthe2b]

10. Misleading advertising, Trumad...

She's "conservative," so she'd only SHOOT you AFTER she charges $$$ you!

[benburch]

13. Staring at George Bush is a crime you know...

And the other boob... Isn't his name Cheney?

[EST]

15. What the hell is "conversative?"

[Faygo Kid]

16. Somebody who can have a dialogue despite "distractions?"

I saw that right away, too. Wonderful!

[DanCa]

17. Why wont she take her gun to Iraq?

That's the real question.

[Dunvegan]

18. Does Katherine Harris...

...have one of these t-shirts?

[Atman]

23. Katherine's says "I HAVE MOXIE & SPUNK!"

"...Now LOOK, Dammit, Or I'll Shoot You!"

[SPKrazy]

19. Or worse if you stare at these

the SS will knock at your door

[omega minimo]

20. Why bother? It's a sure sign someone's already braindead

:evilgrin:

[Joe Fields]

21. Ask her if she wants to see your long rifle.

[Virginia Dare]

22. In Florida, yes...n/t

[RedCappedBandit]

25. Gonna have to look to read the shirt n/t

[Gormy Cuss]

26. This is my weapon, this is my gun...

According to military parlance, her shirt is announcing that in addition to boobs she has a hidden 'package'...

[quaoar]

27. Conservatives have come full circle

Isn't that the kind of slogan that militant feminists are supposed to spout?

[0007]

28. What a stupid looking woman!

[frustrated_lefty]

41. ? In the photo, she gives me the impression

of being youngish and not really secure with herself, but willing to give it a chance by offering a smile.

Wherein, exactly, is the stupidity you perceive?

[Cleita]

37. No, as a woman who has big boobs. (double DD), I would be in jail for

for the number of men and women! who have stared at my boobs since I grew them. Touching what you can't afford might be a different matter. :-)

[kevsand]

43. If I'd been shot every time I stared at a woman's chest,

I'd be swiss cheese by now. You'd be able to hear me whistle when the wind blows. I'd have enough lead in me to make me impervious to radiation.

I always look a woman straight in the eyes when I'm talking to her, but from across the room, I'm sorry, I'm hard wired to appreciate mammaries...

[davsand]

44. NOW I see why you supported me when I breastfed Material Girl.

:eyes:

I'm SURE your meant to say that you appreciate mammeries for their NUTRITIONAL contribution to the human race--RIGHT, Dear?



:spank:


Cleita, go get him--I'll help.


Laura

[kevsand]

46. Um ... yes. Of course. Right. What she said... /nt