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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 04:59 PM
Original message
Cynthia McKinney should get as much jail time as the GOP guy...
who ran a stop sign killing a motorcyclist.

The crimes are very similar in nature. I know. I was there!

:sarcasm:
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:04 PM
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1. I really can't believe the number of people
who are playing judge, jury, and executioner. Makes one suspicious of their motives...
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:06 PM
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2. I can't believe that's it's an issue period!
Yeah, this so effects me personally - something needs to be done.

:eyes:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:07 PM
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3. Are you trying to actually say something or
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 05:29 PM by cali
just posting another silly thread about the McKinney incident? There's no possibility of jail time for Cynthia. Yes, I saw the sarcasm tag, but it doesn't make your post any less absurd.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:10 PM
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6. As absurd as passing judgement without knowing the facts?
Then basing your opinions from what you've heard on the news?????????????? The same source that told us that Saddam was behind 9/11 and had weapons of mass destruction????

What's absurd?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:34 PM
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24. Excuse me? Where did I say judging her from what's
been in the news was an acceptable practice? I didn't. In fact, on several threads I've cautioned that we shouldn't do that.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:37 PM
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29. Exactly. We shouldn't be doing that.
Which is precisely why I'm behaving like I am - because people are indeed doing that.

There. We are in agreement.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:14 PM
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8. Has the nature of a drive buy don't it. Damn kids!
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:09 PM
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4. Another great argument for McKinney.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:09 PM
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5. It's an issue which adds to my ignore list
It's amazing the judgmental remarks -- based on little or no info.

As someone wrote -- the cops refuse to release the tapes -- I guess it's taking them awhile to doctor the tapes??

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atldem Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:11 PM
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7. As someone who lives in Atlanta
she is an embarrassment. This would have gone away if she hadn't decided to issue such a hot headed statement originally. If her first reaction to someone touching her on the arm is to hit them then she has some serious issues. The fact that she wants to use this as race baiting, while here in Atlanta there is ACTUAL racial profiling is irresponsible. I thought Zell Miller would be the most embarrassing -- I was wrong.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:22 PM
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12. I'm not judging you here, but calling someone out isn't cool
Plus, the person you are calling names has been here twice as long as you have.
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:27 PM
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14. You mean length does matter??????
LOL!!!
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:37 PM
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31. LOL
Funny.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:27 PM
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15. Look at the post, 192.
Sorry, he/she called Cynthia name, I am going to protect Cynthia!
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:30 PM
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18. By calling someone a troll, it doesn't protect Cynthia
All I am saying is that judging someone on a lower post count, isn't really a good way of judging someone's integrity.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:32 PM
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21. You're correct on that basis, but not on post-counts.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:30 PM
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19. More than 1000 posts for Rainscents vs 192. New math?
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:33 PM
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23. So the amount of posts gives you authority to break the rules at DU?
" Do not publicly accuse another member of this message board of being a disruptor, conservative, Republican, FReeper, or troll, or do not otherwise imply they are not welcome on Democratic Underground. If you think someone is a disruptor, click the "Alert" link below their post to let the moderators know."


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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:43 PM
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35. Did you bother to read my response to you above? Here's the....
...point I was trying to make with you...you misread the total number of posts by at least one of the posters. If you want to make a point in your posts you should try to base your comments on factual information. To do otherwise just makes you look bad, not anyone else.

And you can skip the lecture on how to use the "Alert" button...I've been here for a while myself.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:48 PM
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37. Where did I "misread the number of posts"?
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 06:13 PM by johnnie
I said the one person has been here twice as long, not anything about number of posts.


On edit: I guess there will be no reply.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #37
55. Here's what you posted....
"Plus, the person you are calling names has been here twice as long as you have."

IMHO, it is not at all clear from what you posted that you meant duration of time instead of
the routinely acceptable number of posts.

Those here the longest amount of time usually have more posts than those that have been here the shortest amount of time. Yes, atldem has been here since 2002, and Rainscents has been here from Dec 14, 2004...but atldem has 202 total posts while Rainscents has a total of 5,653.

By the way, I'm doing some work today, and I may not always be available for some
near-instantaneous conversation with someone that seems intent on starting onr or
more arguments. I post here at MY convenience, not yours.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 07:45 PM
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57. K
:eyes:

I posted to someone and you jumped in, and then accuse me of "someone that seems intent on starting onr or more arguments"

If you don't know the difference between "twice as long" and "number of posts", then I don't feel it is up to me to define those phrases to you.

I'm not here to start fights, I just think it's wrong to see people accuse others as being "trolls" because of the amount of posts they have. And looking at the post now, i think the moderators agree with me.

Nice try in trying to make me look stupid, but I personally don't think it worked. I fond it really hard that a person with your intelligence couldn't distinguish between the amount of time and the number of posts, but maybe it isn't as easy as I would think.
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atldem Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:35 PM
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25. what are the facts as you see them.
I'm not a troll. I am an Atlanta voter. I have always voted democrat. I think she got a raw deal when she was vilified for her 9/11 comments. But when she ran against Majette and her father got on television and said that if she loses it is because of the jews....
Well that kind of tore it for me.

She entered a secure building without her pin or ID and she went around a security checkpoint. I assume this was noticed and someone said something and since she was on the phone she wasn't paying attention so they touched her on the arm. How she was touched, I don't know. But I can deduce since I've been in many governmental buildings that the security guard in question wasn't the only person there. I can't imagine a circumstance in which a blatant assault on a government official was seen and no one said anything. Maybe he should have just let her go through. Do you think your congressperson would like to know that if the security guard out front says "stop" and you don't you just get to keep on going.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:43 PM
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34. Sorry, but you're wrong. She DID have her ID and showed it to the cop!

She entered a secure building without her pin or ID and she went around a security checkpoint.

The above is from your post ~ and many Congresspersons do not wear their lapel pin, they carry ID, as she was doing. How many are asked to produce it as she was, and has been before? We don't know that. I would like to know.

I have never considered the first Democrat in Congress to raise the issue of questions the 9/11 families had an embarrassment. I have considered those who tried to silence those families, and as their representative, Cynthia McKinney, to be a huge embarrassment.



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atldem Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:50 PM
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40. congratulations!!
I have never considered the first Democrat in Congress to raise the issue of questions the 9/11 families had an embarrassment. I have considered those who tried to silence those families, and as their representative, Cynthia McKinney, to be a huge embarrassment.

You have just given birth to one of the biggest non sequitur I have ever heard.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:54 PM
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43. Mmmm ~ you mean your non sequitur 'I consider her an embarrassment'
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 06:06 PM by Catrina
deserved a non-non-sequiturial response? :-)

Oh, and you forgot to address the mistake you made regarding Rep. McKinney's ID. She was carrying it and did show it to the cop. Interesting you seemed to have missed that part of my post. It is an important and relevant point to this discussion and needed to be corrected. I'm sure you agree :-)
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atldem Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:02 PM
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47. Yes.
Because I do consider behavior like this an embarrassment. So that does have something to do with the argument.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 07:29 PM
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56. To what are you agreeing?
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:50 PM
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38. The whole thing about this issue is about slam her first before the fact
come out. I myself don't believe anything spin machines corporate media release out to public after 6 1/2 years of nothing but lies we been told. She did wear her ID, but not her pin. I'm not saying she did everything right, what I'm saying people are accusing her of hitting cop when in-fact, not one of us really knows what happened. My nerves are short nowadays since these right wing criminals had taken over our country. I at least thought, by now, people would had the the lesion from r-wing spin machines they spill shit out to public.

This whole issue is about, getting Cynthia out of the office and GOP now have excuse to hijack her vote away from her in Nov and say... People voted for GOP because what she did to COP.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:24 PM
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13. Wow
You have lasted 192 posts! That must be some kind of a record.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:28 PM
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16. self-delete...
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 05:34 PM by devilgrrl
:shrug:
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atldem Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:52 PM
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42. wow
you're kind of snarky!
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:15 PM
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10. I am sick and tired of Hang her before the fact treads here.
Mike Malloy will be at the Rally with her this weekend and he said Friday night, he will personally talk with Cynthia and report it back to us the FACT!
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:29 PM
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17. I think she's got a screw loose. nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:32 PM
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20. She must. She works her @ss off for US.
:hi:
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:35 PM
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26. Hell, others do as well and they don't go around punching cops
Let's stop excusing her punching cops, her anti-semitic statements, etc. just because she's voted well at times. She needs to behave like the rest of us. If you or I punched a cop, you'd bet your @#$ we'd be in the slammer right now.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:44 PM
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36. "Anti-semetic statements"? Link please. I'm sure you have one.
:shrug: well, let's have it.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:46 AM
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58. Well.... since you asked...
1) She refused to vote for a resolution in 1994 condemming the anti-semitic statements of a Farrakhan disciple.
2) She blamed the Jews for throughout her entire 2002 campaign for her faltering results at the polls.

among others.

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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:50 PM
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39. How do you know she punched a cop? I agree if anyone punched a
cop, they'd be in the slammer right now, so why isn't she? Because DC just loves Democrats who speak out against this administration? Oh wait, they got her thrown out of Congress before because she did just that, so it can't be that!

Maybe because she's black? But if that were the case, why the disproportionate number of black people in jail these days?

Maybe it's because she DIDN'T punch a cop? She sure hasn't been charged with anything yet has she?

Maybe she was behaving 'like the rest of us' ~ did that ever occur to you? We do know she had ID with her and she showed it to the cop. That's what the rest of us would do, wouldn't we? Would the cop have refused to accept 'the rest of us'' ID? That's the question we need an answer to. Why did the cop refuse to accept her ID?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:00 PM
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46. "Punched a cop"? And you know that she did that because....?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:35 PM
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27. sorry, double post
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 05:37 PM by Sarah Ibarruri
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:37 PM
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28. Show me the tape, then I'll agree with you.
I'm in no position to judge her, regardless. I'm only in the position of being grateful as hell for her work. :)
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:37 PM
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30. If publicly stating that the so-called official 911 story doesn't....
...pass the smell test, then there are quite a few of us that have a "screw loose".

If reacting physically to someone grabbing you from behind is having a "screw loose", I guess there are a lot of us with at least a "screw loose".
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. I keep a set of screwdrivers on hand at all times myself.
:rofl:
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atldem Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #30
49. Okay
but let's get real for a minute. It was 9 in the morning. She was entering a public building and there were cops around. Do you think you would automatically think someone was trying to assault you it they grabbed your arm. Or would you just look up and say "What?"
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:34 PM
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51. I gather that you've never seen this photograph.
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 06:36 PM by devilgrrl
Wow look at all those cops surrounding alleged John F. Kennedy assassin Lee Harvey Oswald! Say, who is the guy with the gun?



You're theory holds water like a sieve.
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atldem Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:37 PM
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52. Non sequitur
The guy with the gun wasn't a cop.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:43 PM
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53. But Oswald was surrounded by cops. Bet he felt safe for a brief moment...
why would he think anyone would be able to harm him?
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atldem Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #53
54. I don't know where to go with an argument that
McKinney = Oswald.

That's a new one. I'm just going to back away from you slowly.....
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:32 PM
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22. Too bad she hasn't shot someone while hunting yet...
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 06:29 PM by devilgrrl
by golly, this is so way more important than melting glaciers, corporate fascism, uprovoked wars... I can't stop thinking about this. This is HUGH! This SERIES!!!!

:eyes:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #22
32. You are so wrong. This small lady maybe took a poke at a cop
on her way to a meeting.

The glaciers must wait. :sarcasm:
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:51 PM
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41. IMHO this non issue is GREAT for her campaign
I don't blame her at all for helping stir it all up. The more the right squeals and spews on this the less money she'll have to spend on her re-election. It's also likely translate into black voters all over the country getting stirred up against the Republicans.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:57 PM
Response to Reply #41
44. LOL... Bingo!
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #41
45. You mean the remaining 2% of black voters who still support the GOP?
Katrina did that, we didn't need Cynthia ~ the black vote was already lost to the Republicans ~
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:06 PM
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48. I bet Cynthia McKinney can hit cops harder than Zsa Zsa Gabor
:silly:
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KnaveRupe Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:13 PM
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50. She should get as much jail time as the GOP guy...
... who shot that lawyer in the face.
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